$170 Million, Seriously?

#101
#101
k-town_king said:
Maybe they realized, just like alot of white conservative commentators who backed Obama that McCain and Palin were not the right choice. One was a old career politician with a temper and napolean complex who was unfit to be president and one was a complete idiot without a clue when it concerns national or foreign policy or issuses. Its rascist to suggest intelligent, knowlegeable AA voted for Obama just because hes black. I guess the white Obama-cons were rascist too. I guess AA cant look at the issues and make an informed decison. Alot of conservatives went Obama esp. after the Palin pick.
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remind me which white conservatives voted for Obama?

It's not racist in the least to say that guys like JC Watts and several others voted for Obama based purely upon race. They all point blank said that's why they were voting Obama.
 
#102
#102
I personally did not fancy either one of them. If you say Palin had no clue to foreign policy...true....but Obama is so much better? Not really.
 
#103
#103
BigPapaVol said:
remind me which white conservatives voted for Obama?

It's not racist in the least to say that guys like JC Watts and several others voted for Obama based purely upon race. They all point blank said that's why they were voting Obama.
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k-town must have missed that fact
 
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#104
Vol Mania 21 said:
i think a lot of ppl will be disappointed in who they elected. he promised everyone and their brother something. that's a lot to do. considering he's already backing out of some of his campaign promises is a good start(reported on the Today show last wk)
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When's the last time a lot of people weren't disappointed in who they elected? 92?
 
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#105
k-town_king said:
Maybe they realized, just like alot of white conservative commentators who backed Obama that McCain and Palin were not the right choice. One was a old career politician with a temper and napolean complex who was unfit to be president and one was a complete idiot without a clue when it concerns national or foreign policy or issuses. Its rascist to suggest intelligent, knowlegeable AA voted for Obama just because hes black. I guess the white Obama-cons were rascist too. I guess AA cant look at the issues and make an informed decison. Alot of conservatives went Obama esp. after the Palin pick.
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Saying McCain has a temper is one thing, but saying he has a Napoleon complex is akin to saying Obama has a MalcomX complex.

The second part in bold is false. Had you stated that a lot of liberal republicans voted for Obama you might have a leg to stand on. Many conservatives simply sat this race out. The majority of the rest voted for McCain because they thought he was the best of the two options. They simply weren't well represented in this election.
 
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#110
UT IE 95 said:
Really? Clinton had a pretty easy time getting re-elected in 96.
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You have to admit his scandals did disappoint many. The American public can be very forgiving. If his scandals were made public before the second election it might not have been as easy. He would still have been elected though IMO, we as a society give great latitude to those in power.
 
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#111
UT IE 95 said:
Really? Clinton had a pretty easy time getting re-elected in 96.
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Right, in 1992 he got 43% of the vote, so 57% of the country wasn't happy with the outcome and in 1996 against Bob Dole he got 49.2% of the vote, so the majority of voters weren't happy with that outcome either.
 
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KB5252 said:
You have to admit his scandals did disappoint many. The American public can be very forgiving. If his scandals were made public before the second election it might not have been as easy. He would still have been elected though IMO, we as a society give great latitude to those in power.
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But his scandals were of the personal nature. I can move past those easier than the national scandals.
 
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UT IE 95 said:
But his scandals were of the personal nature. I can move past those easier than the national scandals.
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but the chief executive, who is a licensed attorney, lying under oath is problematic, regardless of circumstances.

I think the witch hunt was ridiculous, but that doesn't change his obligations as President.
 
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volinasheville said:
Right, in 1992 he got 43% of the vote, so 57% of the country wasn't happy with the outcome and in 1996 against Bob Dole he got 49.2% of the vote, so the majority of voters weren't happy with that outcome either.
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I won't touch your fuzzy math. But keep in mind, my point is he didn't lift a finger for the 49.2%.
 
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#117
BigPapaVol said:
but the chief executive, who is a licensed attorney, lying under oath is problematic, regardless of circumstances.

I think the witch hunt was ridiculous, but that doesn't change his obligations as President.
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I agree. His role as POTUS makes him MORE accoutable to the law.

But just for the sake of keeping it real - what married man in his right mind doesn't lie about getting a hummer.
 
#118
#118
UT IE 95 said:
I agree. His role as POTUS makes him MORE accoutable to the law.

But just for the sake of keeping it real - what married man in his right mind doesn't lie about getting a hummer.
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which one would be stupid enough to let it get to the grand jury and lie about it there, especially after the blue dress found light of day.
 
#119
#119
UT IE 95 said:
Based on your age this is clearly a statement based on the home in which you were raised and not a independently formed idea.
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cheating on ur wife in the white house is an honorable thing? i form my own opinions thanks. to be honest my mom is a dem. and my dad is a repub. they both encouraged me and my brother to do our own research. i'm neither, i consider myself a conservative.
 
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#120
UT IE 95 said:
I agree. His role as POTUS makes him MORE accoutable to the law.

But just for the sake of keeping it real - what married man in his right mind doesn't lie about getting a hummer.
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I think the public was more disappointed in the women he chose as much as anything.
 
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#121
Vol Mania 21 said:
cheating on ur wife in the white house is an honorable thing? i form my own opinions thanks. to be honest my mom is a dem. and my dad is a repub. they both encouraged me and my brother to do our own research. i'm neither, i consider myself a conservative.
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I will say this. Anyone who cheats on their wife is a MLD, Major League Douchebag, unless there are underlying reasons. However, that does not warrant an impeachment hearing.
 
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#122
What an utterly depressing day this is for our country. We clearly aren't the "wise" nation we once were.
 
#123
#123
nickknx865 said:
I will say this. Anyone who cheats on their wife is a MLD, Major League Douchebag, unless there are underlying reasons. However, that does not warrant an impeachment hearing.
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and there was no hearing on his infidelity
 
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