'18 CB Terrence Alexander (Grad Transfer)

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Reformed Reader said:
Hyams reported that the staff can still take 2 recruits and it not impact 2019. The way in which this would be done is to get two of the current players in the 2018 class to blue shirt. Thus far none of the grad transfers have impacted the 2019. It seems extreme to me to say that losing 1 scholarship for 2019 would resulting in tanking the class. Honestly it seems like a wise move to me. With our schedule this year, it is going to be extremely difficult for any coach to do well. With that in mind, most people will be calling for Pruitt's job after season 1. This may help alleviate some of that drama and build hype for the following season.
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We already have two players from the 2018 class blueshirting...Norwood and Davis. Chryst and London took the last two spots available 22nd and 23rd which was the number of our class after Wiggins and a blueshirt from last season. We’re down to 23 next class if both Norwood and Davis report...every graduate transfer knocks that number down further.
 
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butchna said:
We already have two players from the 2018 class blueshirting...Norwood and Davis. Chryst and London took the last two spots available 22nd and 23rd which was the number of our class after Wiggins and a blueshirt from last season. We’re down to 23 next class if both Norwood and Davis report...every graduate transfer knocks that number down further.
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Not sure why people don't seem to get that. If we take this guy too we'll be down to 22 for next year. Maybe it's worth it, I don't know. But people who keep saying there's no downside aren't looking at the whole picture. And that post you quoted says it won't affect next year because they will be counted this year by blue shirting guys from this class. haha.

"Hyams reported that the staff can still take 2 recruits and it not impact 2019. The way in which this would be done is to get two of the current players in the 2018 class to blue shirt."

So they won't count next year but they force others to count next year. hahahahahahahahaha Net effect, we lose spots next year. :loco: Again, maybe it's worth it but there is definitely a steep cost for 1 year backups.
 
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Winning 7-9 games this yr will have a bigger impact to the team, fans and future recruiting classes than worrying about 1-2 spots. It's also a critical year to set your culture. He is creating competion at spots that seemingly don't have much.

Instead of JG cruising into season as starter he has to work his butt off to win job.

Instead of chandler and Jordan cruising to plenty of carries they now have to step their game up.

We don't even have this guy yet and you still have to beat the home team in LSU. We need CBs period

We need OL even worse
 
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The Breakerboy said:
The QB I understand but this pickup and the RB are off to me. I like this guy more than picking up the RB but you can develop the young talent at DB and roll with it.
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Could be a situation where Pruitt feels like our team is so under developed that we need game ready players. Also look at our corners, Osbourne and Buchanan haven’t ’showed anything yet, Bailey redshirted so we don’t know what we have in him, Labruzza had to move to safety because of injuries and really needs a year to adjust even though he has the physical tools, I don’t know if Byrd moves to CB or S but even with his obvious talent we don’t know how he will do in the SEC, Jackson has exclusively been a safety and Fils-Amie was a RB and there is no way Brandon Davis is ready to go as a FR.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Winning 7-9 games this yr will have a bigger impact to the team, fans and future recruiting classes than worrying about 1-2 spots. It's also a critical year to set your culture. He is creating competion at spots that seemingly don't have much.

Instead of JG cruising into season as starter he has to work his butt off to win job.

Instead of chandler and Jordan cruising to plenty of carries they now have to step their game up.

We don't even have this guy yet and you still have to beat the home team in LSU. We need CBs period

We need OL even worse
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Good post. Can't see how it is a bad thing to bring in a guy that can help us for one season. As long as there are at least 20 scholarships available for the 2019 class we should be fine.

I'm hopeful that because CJP knows more than we do that there may be good news on players returning in the O-line. Pretty sure Trey will be back along with Niehaus. Tatum is back for sure, doing well and gained some good weight. Maybe Hall will also return? Hope so.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Winning 7-9 games this yr will have a bigger impact to the team, fans and future recruiting classes than worrying about 1-2 spots. It's also a critical year to set your culture. He is creating competion at spots that seemingly don't have much.

Instead of JG cruising into season as starter he has to work his butt off to win job.

Instead of chandler and Jordan cruising to plenty of carries they now have to step their game up.

We don't even have this guy yet and you still have to beat the home team in LSU. We need CBs period

We need OL even worse
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This may all be true but it is still a steep cost for likely one year backups. I think we will find out a lot more about our current roster this spring, good or bad, and have a better feel for some of these positions you've mentioned. I think we will learn more this spring than any spring under the previous coach. All the reports so far are that all the players are buying in and accepting the challenge from Pruitt. Hopefully that will translate into noticeable improvement in a short amount of time.
 
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Maybe this new staff won't have as much attrition after the first year or two and won't need to sign 25 each class. Take Clemson for instance... last 3 classes they signed 17, 14 and 22. So when there's a good eye for talent and even better player development kids don't get pushed out or want to leave. Hopefully that's what Pruitt is building. Obviously it will take time but I'm just saying...

We're so accustomed to signing full classes and pushing guys out, losing players to injury or kids wanting to transfer to get playing time. Maybe Pruitt will be different?
 
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Ron Swanson said:
Maybe this new staff won't have as much attrition after the first year or two and won't need to sign 25 each class. Take Clemson for instance... last 3 classes they signed 17, 14 and 22. So when there's a good eye for talent and even better player development kids don't get pushed out or want to leave. Hopefully that's what Pruitt is building. Obviously it will take time but I'm just saying...
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That is a good point. Just wish there were better grad transfer options this year if we're going this route. None of them seem very good. And I'm hoping we'll see a lot of improvement this spring and find out we're in a little better shape than we think we are.
 
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Sleegro said:
That is a good point. Just wish there were better grad transfer options this year if we're going this route. None of them seem very good. And I'm hoping we'll see a lot of improvement this spring and find out we're in a little better shape than we think we are.
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There are rarely 'great" grad transfers out there for obvious reasons.
 
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bignewt said:
There are rarely 'great" grad transfers out there for obvious reasons.
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I know. That's why I don't like going that route. It didn't matter as much before because they didn't count in the yearly class just against the total. Now the cost is higher.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Yeah Mizzou's defense was pretty bad last season too. Their offense can be dangerous when it's rolling, but they're far from an unstoppable force. I'm kind of hoping we manage to get both of them.
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I think losing Huepel will negatively impact their offense.
 
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butchna said:
We already have two players from the 2018 class blueshirting...Norwood and Davis. Chryst and London took the last two spots available 22nd and 23rd which was the number of our class after Wiggins and a blueshirt from last season. We’re down to 23 next class if both Norwood and Davis report...every graduate transfer knocks that number down further.
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Norwood and Davis signed but were not accepted. IMO they probably will never play at UT
 
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Sleegro said:
Not sure why people don't seem to get that. If we take this guy too we'll be down to 22 for next year. Maybe it's worth it, I don't know. But people who keep saying there's no downside aren't looking at the whole picture. And that post you quoted says it won't affect next year because they will be counted this year by blue shirting guys from this class. haha.

"Hyams reported that the staff can still take 2 recruits and it not impact 2019. The way in which this would be done is to get two of the current players in the 2018 class to blue shirt."

So they won't count next year but they force others to count next year. hahahahahahahahaha Net effect, we lose spots next year. :loco: Again, maybe it's worth it but there is definitely a steep cost for 1 year backups.
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Hey, it's like credit cards, right? Buy now, pay later.

Theoretically, you can blue shirt a few guys every year to infinity (or until the rules are changed).
 
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Or maybe they can Blueshirt a few next year and the next and the next and the next. They can fill a class forever like this. These guys know how to work the numbers.
 
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Whether UT was successful or not with bringing in grad transfers in the past is not relevant. New coaching staff. With that much money spent on the staff, I assume they know how to count and how they want the roster to look.
 
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You’re never going to land elite players through the blueshirt route tho. Those types kinda like the official visit/being officially recruited type stuff.
 
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butchna said:
You’re never going to land elite players through the blueshirt route tho. Those types kinda like the official visit/being officially recruited type stuff.
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Agree - most times that's a pointless exercise with only an occasional exception.
 
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Vols4us said:
Agree - most times that's a pointless exercise with only an occasional exception.
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2-3 star level with potential at the best. You don’t want a roster filled with that.
 
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butchna said:
2-3 star level with potential at the best. You don’t want a roster filled with that.
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Agree. Even the elites end up filling out classes with a handful of lower rated guys that they grade out as having good potential that may contribute as upper classmen. You don't need to blue shirt to do that, it happens naturally and you try to limit it.
 
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Vols4us said:
Agree. Even the elites end up filling out classes with a handful of lower rated guys that they grade out as having good potential that may contribute as upper classmen. You don't need to blue shirt to do that, it happens naturally and you try to limit it.
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I think we don’t want to make it common practice going forward, but in the short term I’m fine with it. Not like the whole class would be blue shirts. Filling in with 2-3 more next year won’t hurt anything imo. Wasn’t Jashon a blueshirt?
 
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