'18 FL CB Tanner Ingle (UT commit 6/19/17)

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The Breakerboy said:
I can understand them not playing fast enough to an extent. But after 4 years of coaching a position at one school I expect much more out of that position as a whole. Just like the former secondary coach fell off with times(he wasn't always a bad coach) I can see some things I don't like at LB. DKjr for example looked no different just from a physicality standpoint from year 1 to year 2. He was seasoned and is a talented athlete. I expected a lot from him in year 2. He was hurt so I will give him a pass for lost of this past year.

We will see what the LB coach gets done this Fall. Hopefully his guys prove me wrong. If not go after the LB coach at Wisconsin right now. Lol
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Breaker tell me what a guy can do more when all his starters get injured and he plays a walk on and 2 back ups. This problem has a multifaceted layer of issues.
1. The coach has recruited elite talent and been tops in the country every where he's been. Then comes here still rated high and brings in guys who are in a bad s/c program and stay hurt
2. Elite talent wants to win and play right away. UT has had a bad streak since Kiff 1 yr tenure. So those same elite guus who went to Auburn and won a NC and were consisently top 10 in the country won't even really entertain a UT offer for real. On top of that they played off 2 top LBs from instate
3. Again S/C plus lack of speed training our guys miss plays and lok like matadors a lot and their bodies are under developed.
4. Philosophies have chg under the new DC and LBs might not be cross compatible in Shoop system that were recruited to play under CJJ. The tenured time of a coach means nothing when concepts and on filed responsibilities change.
 
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Back our coaches until they prove they're garbage...almost there with Thig.
 
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de1conley said:
Breaker tell me what a guy can do more when all his starters get injured and he plays a walk on and 2 back ups. This problem has a multifaceted layer of issues.
1. The coach has recruited elite talent and been tops in the country every where he's been. Then comes here still rated high and brings in guys who are in a bad s/c program and stay hurt
2. Elite talent wants to win and play right away. UT has had a bad streak since Kiff 1 yr tenure. So those same elite guus who went to Auburn and won a NC and were consisently top 10 in the country won't even really entertain a UT offer for real. On top of that they played off 2 top LBs from instate
3. Again S/C plus lack of speed training our guys miss plays and lok like matadors a lot and their bodies are under developed.
4. Philosophies have chg under the new DC and LBs might not be cross compatible in Shoop system that were recruited to play under CJJ. The tenured time of a coach means nothing when concepts and on filed responsibilities change.
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We'll see this year.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
We'll see this year.
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Late to the game, but I agree w/BB on our LB situation and been saying it a long time and always got slack over it. We have a Berry kid in our LB core that can't even get on the field. Why? Is he not athletic enough? Doesn't know what being physical is? Or just not properly prepared?

He is also right that a walk on shouldn't beat out a highly recruited kid. A walk on like Matthews are few and far between.
 
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I have to agree to some degree about Thig. I think that he has not developed what talent we have to a high level. Our guys looked lost too many times. Even Jumper, who was reportedly out there because he could make all the right calls and get people lined up right, made some major pre-snap alignment errors. I recall one of Hurts' long runs where Jumper moved Berry totally out of position and there was no one out on that edge to even slow him down.
 
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drvenner said:
I have to agree to some degree about Thig. I think that he has not developed what talent we have to a high level. Our guys looked lost too many times. Even Jumper, who was reportedly out there because he could make all the right calls and get people lined up right, made some major pre-snap alignment errors. I recall one of Hurts' long runs where Jumper moved Berry totally out of position and there was no one out on that edge to even slow him down.
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This. He made several pre-snap adjustments that put our backers in poor position to make a play. I can't see where his pre-snap reads gave him the nod over anybody we had backing him up.
 
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VolSummitt44 said:
This. He made several pre-snap adjustments that put our backers in poor position to make a play. I can't see where his pre-snap reads gave him the nod over anybody we had backing him up.
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I recently rewatched App State and was somewhat surprised how out of position our LBs were at times in that one too. JRM looked good for the few minutes he played, of course, but our other guys seemed to consistently get fooled by App State's misdirection. The DEs didn't help out much because a few times they couldn't set the edge properly, but still.

I know that wasn't an easy offense to prepare for and they were basically pulling out everything in their playbook, but giving up 184 yards for 4.3 ypc on the ground to them was should have been more ominous, in hindsight. Their other P5 opponent held them to 144/2.9.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I recently rewatched App State and was somewhat surprised how out of position our LBs were at times in that one too. JRM looked good for the few minutes he played, of course, but our other guys seemed to consistently get fooled by App State's misdirection. The DEs didn't help out much because a few times they couldn't set the edge properly, but still.

I know that wasn't an easy offense to prepare for and they were basically pulling out everything in their playbook, but giving up 184 yards for 4.3 ypc on the ground to them was should have been more ominous, in hindsight. Their other P5 opponent held them to 144/2.9.
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Our DTs should've ended all that mess up front. There's no way we shouldn't have been blowing up their interior linemen all game.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
Was also surprised at how badly they were pushed around at times, though they did have disruptive moments.
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With our talent at DT Appy State shouldn't have gotten 100 yards rushing. Our D-line in particular should've physically destroyed that team. Hoke coaching will show what our D-line is capable of even without Barnett. We've just not been disruptive enough for a team that runs the 4-3. Look at Clemson, they penetrate into the backfield all game. Our guys looked slow off the ball(except for Barnett and Tuttle)and in general didn't look to dominate their guy for four quarters.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
With our talent at DT Appy State shouldn't have gotten 100 yards rushing. Our D-line in particular should've physically destroyed that team. Hoke coaching will show what our D-line is capable of even without Barnett. We've just not been disruptive enough for a team that runs the 4-3. Look at Clemson, they penetrate into the backfield all game. Our guys looked slow off the ball(except for Barnett and Tuttle)and in general didn't look to dominate their guy for four quarters.
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Lifting weights...turns out it's important.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
[twitter]https://twitter.com/TannerIngle/status/886048125345038337[/twitter]
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Cue the "this guys gonna be great, this guy has the it factor, so glad this guys a commit, love our current class, diamond in the rough" commits that follow every video of a prospect or current underclassmen working out.
 
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csprig9 said:
Cue the "this guys gonna be great, this guy has the it factor, so glad this guys a commit, love our current class, diamond in the rough" commits that follow every video of a prospect or current underclassmen working out.
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csprig9 said:
Cue the "this guys gonna be great, this guy has the it factor, so glad this guys a commit, love our current class, diamond in the rough" commits that follow every video of a prospect or current underclassmen working out.
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Cue the "Oh my God something shown that is positive...hurry quick...I must bring out the negativity, so I can make everyone in this thread feel like I feel everyday because my life sucks." guy.
 
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Haha, I'm happy with the recruits, just makes me laugh reading the posts after a workout video is posted. Settle down fellow vol fans, seems a lot of people are on edge this morning. Nice tough guy protected by the computer screen comment south knox lol.
 
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csprig9 said:
Haha, I'm happy with the recruits, just makes me laugh reading the posts after a workout video is posted. Settle down fellow vol fans. Nice tough guy keyboard comment south knox lol.
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It would have been a tough guy comment if I threatened you...but I didn't...just saying what everyone else wanted to say. Don't try to turn it into something it's not. Have a nice day.
 
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SouthKnoxVOL said:
It would have been a tough guy comment if I threatened you...but I didn't...just saying what everyone else wanted to say. Don't try to turn it into something it's not. Have a nice day.
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O, it was a jerk comment and you know it. And no, the previous posters obviously didn't want to say it or they would. It was a JOKE, u seemed to have described yourself in your reply towards me. Chill out , it's no big deal
 
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csprig9 said:
Haha, I'm happy with the recruits, just makes me laugh reading the posts after a workout video is posted. Settle down fellow vol fans, seems a lot of people are on edge this morning. Nice tough guy protected by the computer screen comment south knox lol.
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Maybe you should hire an investigator,identify his location and bludgeon him to death?:unsure:
 
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csprig9 said:
O, it was a jerk comment and you know it. And no, the previous posters obviously didn't want to say it or they would. It was a JOKE, u seemed to have described yourself in your reply towards me. Chill out , it's no big deal
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And your comment wasn't a jerk comment?
 
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csprig9 said:
O, it was a jerk comment and you know it. And no, the previous posters obviously didn't want to say it or they would. It was a JOKE, u seemed to have described yourself in your reply towards me. Chill out , it's no big deal
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Lol! Your first comment was a jerk comment. He replied with a jerk comment. Ergo...without your jerk comment first; his jerk comment never exists.
 
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