'18 RB Madre London (Grad Transfer Committed to UT)

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MiramarVol said:
If he couldn't get it done at MSU, I definitely don't see him running through the SEC defenses.
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Michigan St fans think he’s a good player. Said that they never worried about him coming into a game. He plays behind LJ Scott who is one of the more underrated backs in the country. London isn’t a bad pickup. I don’t think it was necessary to get a grad transfer RB, but I’ll give Pruitt the benefit of the doubt
 
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Seems like a great pickup. Just a quick watch of his highlight reel shows he can follow the lead block, and that he's not afraid to hit the hole.

I'm still worried about Chandler after that hit he took on the opening kickoff of the LSU game when he couldn't stand up on his own. A hit like that (concussion-causing and the like) can really change the way a player plays the game. I'll be interested to see if Chandler is still the explosive player we saw early last year.
 
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MiramarVol said:
If he couldn't get it done at MSU, I definitely don't see him running through the SEC defenses.[/QU

Your right, We should just use the 3 RBs we have on the roster and ***** if they get hurt. I hate depth too and unless he is a first team future HOF we dont want him around. (Sarcasm)
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I'm missing how taking a Sr. grad transfer power RB from a P-5 team that has 3 years experience is a bad thing. If CJP believes it would be better to RS or postpone Banks playing time to later in the season to develop him, it's obvious we need a power/blocking back. It's a one year scholarship and out the door.
 
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Vols4us said:
I'm missing how taking a Sr. grad transfer power RB from a P-5 team that has 3 years experience is a bad thing. If CJP believes it would be better to RS or postpone Banks playing time to later in the season to develop him, it's obvious we need a power/blocking back. It's a one year scholarship and out the door.
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No clue either especially considering we only sign 20 players officially
 
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Vols4us said:
I'm missing how taking a Sr. grad transfer power RB from a P-5 team that has 3 years experience is a bad thing. If CJP believes it would be better to RS or postpone Banks playing time to later in the season to develop him, it's obvious we need a power/blocking back. It's a one year scholarship and out the door.
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Agreed. Not sure why he or Chryst are getting such negative reactions from the fan base.

Pretty much a no risk situation for UT to add experienced depth and talent.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Agreed. Not sure why he or Chryst are getting such negative reactions from the fan base.

Pretty much a no risk situation for UT to add experienced depth and talent.
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Yep. And this guy effectively replaces John Kelly. Seems logical to me. I don’t think the fanbase would be going crazy saying we have too many RBs if Kelly was still here.
 
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People need to understand we aren’t bringing in these grad transfers to help us beat UGA or Bama next year. These guys are going to help provide depth and help us win games against South Carolina, Missouri, and heck even Vandy. Winning these games that we lost last year will help recruiting and that’s how we will get to the top of the SEC.
 
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volfanngatorland said:
Agreed. Not sure why he or Chryst are getting such negative reactions from the fan base.

Pretty much a no risk situation for UT to add experienced depth and talent.
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There is risk in the sense that each grad transfer counts toward the cap of 25 signees per year. So the risk is that you take a guy like Shaq Wiggins who does absolutely nothing to help you win games but takes a spot away from high school guy who could be here for multiple years and do a lot more to help the team.

I think the complaints are due to the perception that we're taking mediocre players with one year of eligibility rather than saving the spots for 4 year players or even jucos who could be here longer and ultimately have a bigger impact in helping turn us around.
 
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I like this pick up. We don't need a speed back. He doesn't even have to be fast at all IMO. I want a back that can grind it for 4 yds on any given down. And will hit you right in the mouth when we need a hard earned 1 yd.
 
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highspeed said:
There is risk in the sense that each grad transfer counts toward the cap of 25 signers per year. So the risk is that you take a guy like Shaq Wiggins who does absolutely nothing to help you win games but takes a spot away from high school guy who could be here for multiple years and do a lot more to help the team.

I think the complaints are due to the perception that we're taking mediocre players with one year of eligibility rather than saving the spots for 4 year players or even jucos who could be here longer and ultimately have a bigger impact in helping turn us around.
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Who you saving the spot for when you didn't signfull class? Can't get them back. Wiggins only possibly counted forward because we signed a full class. You can count a grad transfer in current class if you don't sign full.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Who you saving the spot for when you didn't signfull class? Can't get them back. Wiggins only possibly counted forward because we signed a full class. You can count a grad transfer in current class if you don't sign full.
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These will push norwood and or davis into next year so they do indirectly cost us spots next year. So there is likely some cost involved. To some that is worth it. To others these 2 aren't seen as good enough to justify it.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Who you saving the spot for when you didn't signfull class? Can't get them back. Wiggins only possibly counted forward because we signed a full class. You can count a grad transfer in current class if you don't sign full.
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As I understand it, we're blueshirting two under the radar high school guys and counting them forward, so assuming that everything works out with that process, we have 23 scholarships to give next year instead of 25. The alternative to taking the grad transfers would be to let those two high school guys go ahead and sign now and have the full allotment of 25 spots for next year's class.

If the grad transfers come in and help us win games and the blueshirt guys turn out to be solid players for us, it's a good move. If those things don't happen, it isn't a good move.

I think the people questioning the current path are taking the point of view that with a staff full of really good recruiters we would ultimately be able to get higher quality players by holding those spots for next year's class.
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Who you saving the spot for when you didn't signfull class? Can't get them back. Wiggins only possibly counted forward because we signed a full class. You can count a grad transfer in current class if you don't sign full.
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We didn’t have a full 25 THIS class due to Wiggins and a blueshirt from last season. Chryst and London put us at 23. Norwood counts against next season as does Davis if he doesn’t go MLB.
 
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butchna said:
We didn’t have a full 25 THIS class due to Wiggins and a blueshirt from last season. Chryst and London put us at 23. Norwood counts against next season as does Davis if he doesn’t go MLB.
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Which means CJP really likes Norwood/Davis and probably would have taken them next year even if they were in that recruiting class instead.

So many posters act like the coaching staff is clueless and has no plan. They know how to counter opponents moves in recruiting. If it was Dools it would be fair to question it all, but we are talking about top recruiters historically on this staff. They know what they want to get done.
 
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Vols4us said:
Which means CJP really likes Norwood/Davis and probably would have taken them next year even if they were in that recruiting class instead.

So many posters act like the coaching staff is clueless and has no plan. They know how to counter opponents moves in recruiting. If it was Dools it would be fair to question it all, but we are talking about top recruiters historically on this staff. They know what they want to get done.
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Questioning the strategy with grad transfers and blueshirts does not necessarily equal thinking that "the coaching staff is clueless and has no plan." Personally I think it's a little short sighted. I would be willing to bet we end up turning someone away due to numbers for the 2019 class who would do more for us long term than any of these transfers/blue shirts, but in the grand scheme of things I doubt it ends up being that big of a deal. Any player getting turned away won't be a priority.

My best guess at this point is that we're making a small improvement to the roster short term at the cost of a little bit bigger improvement long term.

The wildcard to me is Chryst. If he ends up being the starter and playing really well, that's big.

I'll be interested to see how it all turns out. Bottom line, if this staff recruits and develops players like we all hope they can, this is probably nothing more than a minor blip on the radar.
 
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Vols4us said:
Which means CJP really likes Norwood/Davis and probably would have taken them next year even if they were in that recruiting class instead.

So many posters act like the coaching staff is clueless and has no plan. They know how to counter opponents moves in recruiting. If it was Dools it would be fair to question it all, but we are talking about top recruiters historically on this staff. They know what they want to get done.
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It’s not mistrusting their evaluations. It’s considering their WIN NOW mentality. That lends to credit card recruiting. We’ll catch up...next. Next year with a full season of body of work for recruits to flock towards, there will be athletes that are higher quality that we’re going to have to pass on...and it will burn.
 
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butchna said:
It’s not mistrusting their evaluations. It’s considering their WIN NOW mentality. That lends to credit card recruiting. We’ll catch up...next. Next year with a full season of body of work for recruits to flock towards, there will be athletes that are higher quality that we’re going to have to pass on...and it will burn.
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Everyone does it. Keep counting forward and then cash in once you have rebuilt your depth to the point where you don't need the full 25. Doesn't mean we can't not get 25 guys if it's the right guys next class. He need bodies now. In a few yrs he won't need as bad
 
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Nashvegas31 said:
Everyone does it. Keep counting forward and then cash in once you have rebuilt your depth to the point where you don't need the full 25. Doesn't mean we can't not get 25 guys if it's the right guys next class. He need bodies now. In a few yrs he won't need as bad
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Yeah...just like credit cards. You never feel like you’ll “need” as much later as you do now. :hmm:
 
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