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Maybe I missed it, but can someone fill me in on who he is, what he does, and why there is dislike for him?
Back to Max Wray......
I heard a rumor that something happened with the staff that ticked Wray or his family off. De1, can you confirm or deny this?
I'm too lazy to read back through the train wrecks this thread and the Stevens thread turned into, but I'm pretty sure I remembering De1 saying in one of the 2 threads that Wray and his family were thoroughly unimpressed with Mahoney and that that played a role in the decision.
Choosing Mahoney over Pittman may be CBJs worst decision. And I'm one of the people who thinks Mahoney can coach.
Yes he did say that, but this rumor I heard didn't seem to have anything to do with that. It wasn't "unimpressed", it was "ticked off" by something that was said or done. They wouldn't elaborate on what.I'm too lazy to read back through the train wrecks this thread and the Stevens thread turned into, but I'm pretty sure I remembering De1 saying in one of the 2 threads that Wray and his family were thoroughly unimpressed with Mahoney and that that played a role in the decision.
He had his guys. Jake,Strip,Jancek and Mahoney. They knew what he wanted to set up on a new team and how to accomplish it. Butch has had to change that mentality since his hire, and that's why Strip and Mahoney are all that remains. The DL has never been an issue, so that leaves our OL guru. Since he arrived, the correct assessment has been that Pittman was better. That being said, is our OL play better now than when we inherited Pittman's one and done effort (that has four NFL players)? I say a resounding yes! Whether that's due to DeBord's oversight remains to be determined but OL recruits gravitate towards success. That's why recruits flock to the Bama's and LSU's of the world...not the name on the coaching staff. Our guys get out there and roadgrade some DLs this year? Mahoney suddenly become an "elite coach"...JMO.
He had his guys. Jake,Strip,Jancek and Mahoney. They knew what he wanted to set up on a new team and how to accomplish it. Butch has had to change that mentality since his hire, and that's why Strip and Mahoney are all that remains. The DL has never been an issue, so that leaves our OL guru. Since he arrived, the correct assessment has been that Pittman was better. That being said, is our OL play better now than when we inherited Pittman's one and done effort (that has four NFL players)? I say a resounding yes! Whether that's due to DeBord's oversight remains to be determined but OL recruits gravitate towards success. That's why recruits flock to the Bama's and LSU's of the world...not the name on the coaching staff. Our guys get out there and roadgrade some DLs this year? Mahoney suddenly become an "elite coach"...JMO.
So has Wray shut down his recruitment completely? I know we have Mays on board and are in good shape with McCall and Ekiyor, but Wray is a stud too. Those four might be the best OL haul in decades.
So has Wray shut down his recruitment completely? I know we have Mays on board and are in good shape with McCall and Ekiyor, but Wray is a stud too. Those four might be the best OL haul in decades.
No idea, but he's not near the prospect Mays is IMO. Plus, like I've said before I seriously doubt Tennessee will land ANY OL prospects from the mid-state unless the kid just grows up a total die-hard Vol fan.
No idea, but he's not near the prospect Mays is IMO. Plus, like I've said before I seriously doubt Tennessee will land ANY OL prospects from the mid-state unless the kid just grows up a total die-hard Vol fan.