'18 TN RB Master Teague

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Y'all do realize every fan base thinks the other schools are dirty right? Pretty much every SEC school used to call us UT University of Teflon because nothing sticks to us.

Perception of a program is greatly influenced by allegiance.

The same view we have of Auburn is exactly how Bama perceived us in the 90's.

Maybe factors such as depth chart, playing time, Offensive schemes, OL, ability to get to next level, or God forbid academics play a larger role in decisions than program perceptions.

Because EVERYONE IS GUILTY
 
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volatil said:
Y'all do realize every fan base thinks the other schools are dirty right? Pretty much every SEC school used to call us UT University of Teflon because nothing sticks to us.

Perception of a program is greatly influenced by allegiance.

The same view we have of Auburn is exactly how Bama perceived us in the 90's.

Maybe factors such as depth chart, playing time, Offensive schemes, OL, ability to get to next level, or God forbid academics play a larger role in decisions than program perceptions.

Because EVERYONE EXCEPT US IS GUILTY
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't believe any sincere Christians "sells" their faith for personal gain. Some will disagree, but my thoughts on Freeze have turned out to be confirmed. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging your faith, but to use it as a selling point in recruiting is loathsome to me. Strikes me as being for vain glory or filthy lucre's sake.
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That's my point though. We only see what the media wants us to as it relates to these coaches. These kids and their families see the real people behind the coaching persona. It's up to them to weed out the BS. I am thankful that God gave me the gift of discernment, but not everyone has that gift. Some will see right thru the babble, others will far for it hook, line, and sinker because It's what they want to hear. Some coaches are likely genuine and sincere by sharing their beliefs, others use it as a "selling point". Families have to distinguish between who is real and who is putting on a show. I don't know Freeze, Dabo, or Malzahn enough to make that distinction from afar. Freeze has been exposed a bit.

To your point, as a coach (or any public figure) it's tough to be bold for Christ in the media and not reap the rewards of kids who gravitate toward your message. The only other approach is to not speak publicly about your faith, but that isn't what we're called to do either. So, I guess it's an extremely fine line to walk between being bold and living a life worthy of the calling, and using your message of faith for your own selfish gain and glory. In reality, that's a much harder life to live than either of us probably imagine. I'm amazed that Tim Tebow has managed to maintain his image through all the media hype and coverage that his every move generates.
 
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volatil said:
Y'all do realize every fan base thinks the other schools are dirty right? Pretty much every SEC school used to call us UT University of Teflon because nothing sticks to us.

Perception of a program is greatly influenced by allegiance.

The same view we have of Auburn is exactly how Bama perceived us in the 90's.

Maybe factors such as depth chart, playing time, Offensive schemes, OL, ability to get to next level, or God forbid academics play a larger role in decisions than program perceptions.

Because EVERYONE IS GUILTY
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If we are as filthy as AU, Clemson and Ole Miss...the I am ashamed.
 
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volatil said:
Y'all do realize every fan base thinks the other schools are dirty right? Pretty much every SEC school used to call us UT University of Teflon because nothing sticks to us.

Perception of a program is greatly influenced by allegiance.

The same view we have of Auburn is exactly how Bama perceived us in the 90's.

Maybe factors such as depth chart, playing time, Offensive schemes, OL, ability to get to next level, or God forbid academics play a larger role in decisions than program perceptions.

Because EVERYONE IS GUILTY
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Difference is not every school cheats on the same level. And when you can cite case after case for the same schools like your Auburns and Alabamas, it's easy to conclude as to who gets to play by looser rules and who doesn't. Making a blanket statement that 'everyone cheats' is an intellectually dishonest way of ignoring what programs get to do whatever they want without fear of any repercussions. Bama was always going to be a force with Saban taking over. Insert his former boss Mark Emmert and now you have a dynasty. Not real hard to see if you open your eyes and take an honest look around you.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That's my point though. We only see what the media wants us to as it relates to these coaches. These kids and their families see the real people behind the coaching persona. It's up to them to weed out the BS. I am thankful that God gave me the gift of discernment, but not everyone has that gift. Some will see right thru the babble, others will far for it hook, line, and sinker because It's what they want to hear. Some coaches are likely genuine and sincere by sharing their beliefs, others use it as a "selling point". Families have to distinguish between who is real and who is putting on a show. I don't know Freeze, Dabo, or Malzahn enough to make that distinction from afar. Freeze has been exposed a bit.

To your point, as a coach (or any public figure) it's tough to be bold for Christ in the media and not reap the rewards of kids who gravitate toward your message. The only other approach is to not speak publicly about your faith, but that isn't what we're called to do either. So, I guess it's an extremely fine line to walk between being bold and living a life worthy of the calling, and using your message of faith for your own selfish gain and glory. In reality, that's a much harder life to live than either of us probably imagine. I'm amazed that Tim Tebow has managed to maintain his image through all the media hype and coverage that his every move generates.
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Those are excellent points. There are some coaches like Tony Dungy that I admire for their stedfastness, but some other coaches that smell like rotting fish from a mile away. I get that feeling about those three coaches. A lot of that is because of how their teams carry themselves.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
Those are excellent points. There are some coaches like Tony Dungy that I admire for their stedfastness, but some other coaches that smell like rotting fish from a mile away. I get that feeling about those three coaches. A lot of that is because of how their teams carry themselves.
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Better add a former DLine coach that is a HC in the SEC.

He may or may not have used a lawyer to funnel money at programs
 
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Y'all missed my point with the post above. Perception varies. Of course we think these teams are worse than everyone at cheating. My point is not everyone has this opinion. I'm sure if you were to ask an OSU fan who's the biggest cheat they would say Harbaugh.

People think all SEC schools are just player mills and ethics are not involved. Remember the witch hunt during the Title IX crap?

Some kids look at other things than people's perception to make a choice.
 
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volatil said:
Y'all do realize every fan base thinks the other schools are dirty right? Pretty much every SEC school used to call us UT University of Teflon because nothing sticks to us.

Perception of a program is greatly influenced by allegiance.

The same view we have of Auburn is exactly how Bama perceived us in the 90's.

Maybe factors such as depth chart, playing time, Offensive schemes, OL, ability to get to next level, or God forbid academics play a larger role in decisions than program perceptions.

Because EVERYONE IS GUILTY
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People have 100 dollar handshakes ect. What Auburn has done in the past and the Cam situation with their guy in the NCAA office is far beyond what others have done. It got Bowden fired when he would not go along with it and he couldn't win down there without what they do. If you don't think some schools take it to a greater level, then we just won't agree.

Now, does this mean if MT goes to Auburn then he must have been paid? Absolutely not. Why? Because everything you hear about this kid and his family is aces. Seems like the kind of situation where if you started trying to play ball that way, you would lose them. Schools don't just pay everybody. They pay those which requires it. They better read the families who would be offended by it and not go there.

Money to help kids. Sure thing everywhere. What didn't stick to UT was things like a car repair for Tee Martin but money for a sick child got one of our guys finished forever. Same time Dick, I mean Ha ha got to pay it back and keep playing for Bama.

Do you think UT has ever given Means money of 100K out? Or, Cam build me a church money. Even Kiffy ran away at that price tag. Urban may give a job here and there ect and ignore murderers but what they do at Bama and Auburn are on another level. If Teague goes anywhere, doesn't mean he got paid because he has the moral fiber to not participate. However, don't paint Auburn pretty and put them on the same level as other schools just because Teague may decide to go there.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I don't believe any sincere Christians "sells" their faith for personal gain. Some will disagree, but my thoughts on Freeze have turned out to be confirmed. There is nothing wrong with acknowledging your faith, but to use it as a selling point in recruiting is loathsome to me. Strikes me as being for vain glory or filthy lucre's sake.
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I agree with you completely. He uses his Faith as a tool in recruiting and then turns around and cheats and lies to get ahead in recruiting. Does not make much sense to me.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
I'm not in denial, but he's not really rated that high on any of the sites relative to the schools coming after him and I mean his film is good, but elite? Not so sure about that. Also, thought it was interesting that "faith" is supposedly a big deal to the family and his decision and that is why they really want a Clemson offer and why Auburn (because of Malzahn? ) leads. Is Gus one of those Freeze / Dabo types?
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247 has him the 9th ranked RB and top 200 player.

Classic case of Rivals rating early and bet he gets a big bump.
 
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Didn't Teague say that Tennessee was recruiting him really hard ? He must really not want to come to Tennessee smh .
 
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I can't evaluate talent like many of you can, but it seems to me, that he better jump on board (as a Tennessee guy) before it's too late.

I love some in state talent................but.

I'll defer to our coaches to decide.

(no offense to you VN guys)
 
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