'19 CA QB Jayden Daniels

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griddie said:
If he’s a good accurate passer then of course it’s great if he can also run. But he was presented as a run first qb that’s why I said that. I personally don’t care if a guy can run as long as he has some mobility. Accuracy and the ability to make all the throws is more important imo
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Who presented him as such? When one of the stats is over 3000 more than the other? I say he’s doing that FIRST!
 
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He’s listed as a dual threat qb. That was what I was responding to. I had no idea about stats.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
He's a passing QB with good mobility. He wouldn't be asked to run much here and he's one of the best passing QB's in this class.
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THis i don’t understand, if he can do both run and pass well ( and the stats say he can) he should be asked to do both . . There’s a reason why good DUAL THREAT qbs are so hard to stop . IF you have a winning qb that does both you dont tell him to stop doing one because you want To see more 45 yard spirals.
 
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0nelilreb said:
THis i don’t understand, if he can do both run and pass well ( and the stats say he can) he should be asked to do both . . There’s a reason why good DUAL THREAT qbs are so hard to stop . IF you have a winning qb that does both you dont tell him to stop doing one because you want To see more 45 yard spirals.
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That's easy. Pass when ever possible. Keep the qb healthy and on average gain more yards per play. When the play breaks down and with a few well called designed runs you take advantage of the running ability. That is the best type of qb to me.
 
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0nelilreb said:
THis i don’t understand, if he can do both run and pass well ( and the stats say he can) he should be asked to do both . . There’s a reason why good DUAL THREAT qbs are so hard to stop . IF you have a winning qb that does both you dont tell him to stop doing one because you want To see more 45 yard spirals.
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Using your QB as a primary ball carrier is hell on their shelf life. Play breaks down and let the guy make a play in the process...otherwise use your running backs imo.
 
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k-town_king said:
That's easy. Pass when ever possible. Keep the qb healthy and on average gain more yards per play. When the play breaks down and with a few well called designed runs you take advantage of the running ability. That is the best type of qb to me.
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It’s easy if your a “ dual threat “ qb which to me is the best type you have the best of both worlds . Not so easy if you only have a pocket passer .. Peyton always scared the hell out of me and every Vols fan in the country when he tucked it and tried to pick up yards .
 
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butchna said:
Using your QB as a primary ball carrier is hell on their shelf life. Play breaks down and let the guy make a play in the process...otherwise use your running backs imo.
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I guess it’s how I’m looking at it , to me the dual threat qb is there to make the D have to spy him because they know he will tuck it and get 4 or 15 yess. I’m not saying use the qb as the main ball carrier but as another running threat to add to the rbs
 
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I think for me when I think about it the difference between Peyton “ having to “ tuck it and Dobbs choosing to do his magic was one I held my breath and prayed for no broken bones the other I was almost positive something good was about to happen .
 
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0nelilreb said:
It’s easy if your a “ dual threat “ qb which to me is the best type you have the best of both worlds . Not so easy if you only have a pocket passer .. Peyton always scared the hell out of me and every Vols fan in the country when he tucked it and tried to pick up yards .
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I was saying a dt is best. I just like him to use his running ability when the play breaks down and limited designed runs. Not 20 rushes a game. 10-12 is plenty to me.
 
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You can run out of the Pro-Style offense, but if he can pass it and we can run it out of the backfield it will only help when he does run. See Tony Robinson. GBO!!!!!
 
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k-town_king said:
I was saying a dt is best. I just like him to use his running ability when the play breaks down and limited designed runs. Not 20 rushes a game. 10-12 is plenty to me.
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Sorry I misunderstood I think
 
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0nelilreb said:
I guess it’s how I’m looking at it , to me the dual threat qb is there to make the D have to spy him because they know he will tuck it and get 4 or 15 yess. I’m not saying use the qb as the main ball carrier but as another running threat to add to the rbs
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I think how the Seahawks use Russell Wilson and how the 49ers used Steve Young is the ideal blueprint. The threat is implied and ready...but not overused.
 
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butchna said:
I think how the Seahawks use Russell Wilson and how the 49ers used Steve Young is the ideal blueprint. The threat is implied and ready...but not overused.
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That makes sense . I was just trying to say that I enjoy watching a good dual threat qb because they are so hard on a defense to contain when used right
 
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0nelilreb said:
That makes sense . I was just trying to say that I enjoy watching a good dual threat qb because they are so hard on a defense to contained when used right
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It’s fun. Watching a statue getting chopped down in the backfield isn’t. :hi:
 
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butchna said:
I think how the Seahawks use Russell Wilson and how the 49ers used Steve Young is the ideal blueprint. The threat is implied and ready...but not overused.
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Tee, McNabb, Aaron Rodgers, and Cam Newton come to mind too. Guys are always looking to pass but can kill you with a 20 yard run at any time. Some more elusive than others, but all with good mobility to make lemonade out of lemons.
 
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Brillovol said:
Tee, McNabb, Aaron Rodgers, and Cam Newton come to mind too. Guys are always looking to pass but can kill you with a 20 yard run at any time. Some more elusive than others, but all with good mobility to make lemonade out of lemons.
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I think it’s more devastating to the opposing defense when it isn’t planned. We were still mixing it up with UGA last season and then Fromm uncorked that 30 something TD run out of a 3rd and long play. Never a doubt after that. :pinch:
 
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butchna said:
I think it’s more devastating to the opposing defense when it isn’t planned. We were still mixing it up with UGA last season and then Fromm uncorked that 30 something TD run out of a 3rd and long play. Never a doubt after that. :pinch:
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Never heard of her.
 
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Brillovol said:
Tee, McNabb, Aaron Rodgers, and Cam Newton come to mind too. Guys are always looking to pass but can kill you with a 20 yard run at any time. Some more elusive than others, but all with good mobility to make lemonade out of lemons.
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Those kind of guys and those 15-20 yard runs are morale killers too , when the D has everybody covered up and they reel off 20 on you it’s hard to take to many of those shots in the mouth before you start walking around with your hands on your hips and heads down .
 
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For former Tennessee comparisons, think Heath Shuler or Tony Robinson. Pass first, run second. Those scrambles kept drives alive, but not a lot of designed running plays.
 
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