'19 CA QB JT Daniels (Georgia commit)

[PEPPERJAX]

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[PEPPERJAX]

Ga State was all on the defense

agreed on BYU

Agreed but our offensive should have been able to hang 50 plus on GA ST. Not all JG's fault but damn that game was a disaster.

 

[jakez4ut]

Agreed but our offensive should have been able to hang 50 plus on GA ST. Not all JG's fault but damn that game was a disaster.

but that swing pass tho................

that'll be a good early test this season....have we fixed our inability to complete a swing pass?

lol.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

but that swing pass tho................

that'll be a good early test this season....have we fixed our inability to complete a swing pass?

lol.

I knew we were in for a long day after that botched play. The entire team slept walked through that game. Easily the worst performance I have ever witnessed by the Vols.

 

[Carp]

Ga State was all on the defense

agreed on BYU

Defense was bad, but we scored 17 points by half time vs GA State. Didn't score another TD until 2 seconds were left in the game. That's on the offense and JG in particular.

 

[de1conley]

JG has been bad but weren't Joey Mathews and Burney Veazey starters at some point too?? They were worse than JG imo. Also, coming from a 43 year old Vol fan

Come on those guys were not the season starter in which we're discussing like JG, Simms, Crompton. Furthermore Veazy never started and didn't even stay at qb but moved to Wr. Matthews started 1 game so please I get you went digging but let's kp it in context.

 

[jakez4ut]

I knew we were in for a long day after that botched play. The entire team slept walked through that game. Easily the worst performance I have ever witnessed by the Vols.

and as bad as that was, we may find ourselves looking back at that game as a necessary evil. i think cjp learned a lot that day.....and i think this team in particular will have a very relevant reference point to look back on when preparing for this season.

 

[de1conley]

That win vs UGA was obnoxious. He played with half the field. It was a simple but effective gameplan by Kiffin.

Yes Crompton was so BAD he couldn't read progressions but half the field. I remember being in a qb mtg and Kiffin and Chaney saying 1 progression 2 progressions and throw it away. They were drawing up plays to simplify them. But his TE was just as BAD and had no clue either. So Frank Wilson gives a test during pre-game mtg and says what's you route or something like that. Warren has the paper upside down and said coach you're trying to trick us because this is not a play we run because I don't know these routes.

 

[BucVol98]

Lol, what weapons did we have? We didn't have a burner at WR to cause any fear at all of stretching defenses and our running game produced less than 150 yards/gm, I fail to see where 2 possession type receivers and an undersized Fr running back count as offensive weapons. Speed is a weapon and we didn't have much of it last year and certainly didn't have any playmakers the 2 seasons before that.

Dude you need to rewatch some games, he missed SSSSOOOOO many easy touchdown completions to Callaway, DWA, and Jennings, and btw if we didn't have a down the field threat then why did Callaway avg. 21.2? As far as EG being undersized.... since when is a 200-205 pound back undersized? No he's not a bruiser but he certainly ain't Darren Sproles sized. Good try on your argument though.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

and as bad as that was, we may find ourselves looking back at that game as a necessary evil. i think cjp learned a lot that day.....and i think this team in particular will have a very relevant reference point to look back on when preparing for this season.

Perhaps....but I still would have rather seen an ugly win.

 

[BucVol98]

I've never made an excuse for JG. I'm not running out of anything, it's you neverJG guys that continue to try and lay everything off on him. It's getting old and the fanbase is starting to get tired of the neverJG guys.

The true Vols that want to win are all neverJG guys, if you like L's in the Win/Loss column then you root for JG, that's how I look at it

 

[de1conley]

I dont know man. Worley was pretty bad.

Worley was a prime example of how dumb Butch was. Damn idiot was trying to run spread/ read option with a pocket qb who was not an athletic. Another wasted talent who was put in a bad situation bad an idiot coach who also used a OL who was a natural C at LT. Anyone who knows OL guys makeup knows there is no way a C play OT let alone LT.

 

[volinbama256]

Gimme Iceman Clausen any day... he wasn't necessarily the best QB, but when the lights came on, he was ready to rumble no matter what the situation. He was a great game time QB that had the moxy and enough skills to back it up. He'd get us out of bad situations time and time again.

 

[Lloyd_Christmas]

The true Vols that want to win are all neverJG guys, if you like L's in the Win/Loss column then you root for JG, that's how I look at it

That's pretty stupid. So only true Vols are the ones willing to root against an actual true Vol that's on the team and taken hits for Tennessee? I pull for all the guys on the team to be successful. Preferring one player to start over another one is fine, but saying people who root for JG are not true Vols easily qualifies as one of the most moronic things ever posted on this forum. Congrats.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

and as bad as that was, we may find ourselves looking back at that game as a necessary evil. i think cjp learned a lot that day.....and i think this team in particular will have a very relevant reference point to look back on when preparing for this season.

I think he learned that you can never treat any game as a developmental and evaluation practice...it was really dumb, no denying that, but I guarantee you it never happens again. If we played that team at the end of the season...it would have been a 50-0 blowout.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

This thread sucks and you’re all to blame.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

The true Vols that want to win are all neverJG guys, if you like L's in the Win/Loss column then you root for JG, that's how I look at it

That is a really dumb statement..I am not a JG guy, but if he can turn it around...I would be love to see it...I don't think he can, or that we will ever see it, but I would love to.


I love good redemption stories, and that would be an all-timer.

 

[BigOrangeFanatic]

Worley got his brains beat in. I’ve never seen somewhere get hit like he did..

He also played for the dumbest coach we've ever had. The read, no option offense.

 

[BeecherVol]

Pruitt has a different approach to JG/QBs. He’s said many times he thinks it’s good for QBs to sit a series or two and then come back in.

It’s odd, different and something hopefully he only does with JG but he’s been clear JG is the guy he wants in the game at the end with the game on the line. I’d say that is “believing in him”

Yeah that's lacking the context of the situation.

I dont think his approach is an idea on QBs in general. It was based on his QB situation at the time. If JG is playing like an experienced RS JR last year hes not getting pulled for an unproven FR multiple times during the season.

Pruitt and Chaney did the best they could with the position based on the fact they didnt have a good option.

 

[butchna]

I knew we were in for a long day after that botched play. The entire team slept walked through that game. Easily the worst performance I have ever witnessed by the Vols.

Loss against Army in 86 and win against UMass in 17...easily recalled as worse.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Loss against Army in 86 and win against UMass in 17...easily recalled as worse.

No way. IIRC Georgia St. started playing football in 2008. UMASS and Army's programs are older than rocks.

 

[BucVol98]

That's pretty stupid. So only true Vols are the ones willing to root against an actual true Vol that's on the team and taken hits for Tennessee? I pull for all the guys on the team to be successful. Preferring one player to start over another one is fine, but saying people who root for JG are not true Vols easily qualifies as one of the most moronic things ever posted on this forum. Congrats.

I said true Vols that WANT TO WIN, if you want to shoot some cookie cutter bull, that's fine but I never said you weren't a true Vol, but I for one, am sick of losing, I don't even have the fond memories of being good in the 80's or 90's to fall back on I was 4 the last time we won a Natty and probably 7 the last time we were actually GOOD, I've lived the majority my life being abused by anybody I know who roots for Alabama, Georgia and Florida and I for one am sick of it, the kid hasn't shown me he can play so until he does I'll be rooting for him to sit on the bench and enjoy the perks of having a D1 scholarship.

 

[BucVol98]

That is a really dumb statement..I am not a JG guy, but if he can turn it around...I would be love to see it...I don't think he can, or that we will ever see it, but I would love to.


I love good redemption stories, and that would be an all-timer.

So basically you feel the same you just won't go far enough to be considered a neverJG guy? I defended him for a long time, too long honestly, because I had respect for his toughness and effort, but eventually that doesn't cut it for me, and that improv at the goal line when we were RIGHT in that Bama game with a chance to possibly win it sealed his fate in my book, unless he wins the Heisman next year I'm going to be rooting for someone else to be under center cause Guarantano just isn't the answer, even you admit you feel that way

 

[jakez4ut]

Yeah that's lacking the context of the situation.

I dont think his approach is an idea on QBs in general. It was based on his QB situation at the time. If JG is playing like an experienced RS JR last year hes not getting pulled for an unproven FR multiple times during the season.

Pruitt and Chaney did the best they could with the position based on the fact they didnt have a good option.

agreed. i actually think they did a really good job of managing that whole situation, all things considered.

especially in considering how we finished the season...lol. i'd like to know the staff that could literally "manage" 7/8 wins while playing musical chairs at QB, be injury, poor play, turnovers, confidence issues...whatever.....4 guys lined up behind center during that run, and outisde JJ, all of them made spectacular plays....and knucklehad plays. they all got banged around and showed some real toughness.....all while not losing all of their confidence as each one found themselves in pruitt's dog house for one reason or another.

really....it was a very quality coaching job.....

 

[PEPPERJAX]

So basically you feel the same you just won't go far enough to be considered a neverJG guy? I defended him for a long time, too long honestly, because I had respect for his toughness and effort, but eventually that doesn't cut it for me, and that improv at the goal line when we were RIGHT in that Bama game with a chance to possibly win it sealed his fate in my book, unless he wins the Heisman next year I'm going to be rooting for someone else to be under center cause Guarantano just isn't the answer, even you admit you feel that way

That’s some real gansta sh1T dude. What’s next, typing in all caps?