19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

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This. Horrible to think about but could definitely see a grown man doing this....silently. may be a while before anyone called the cops because no gunshots. Hope it never ever happens

Edit...quote didnt work right. This is in response to BB or whoever saying a grown man in locked classrooms with a bat or knife couldnt kill 20 kids and a helpless teacher or 2....i have zero doubt some worthless loser could do so....
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
This. Horrible to think about but could definitely see a grown man doing this....silently. may be a while before anyone called the cops because no gunshots. Hope it never ever happens

Edit...quote didnt work right. This is in response to BB or whoever saying a grown man in locked classrooms with a bat or knife couldnt kill 20 kids and a helpless teacher or 2....i have zero doubt some worthless loser could do so....
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Ban guns and we’ll see how fast someone could it with a baseball bat. You can’t ban the real problem. Evil
 
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You post this as if we’re stupid enough to believe all cops share the same opinion. And I can assure you they don’t. As a former LEO myself I question how authentic his claim to be one actually is. Each unit serves its own purpose. Uniform cops goal is to DEesulate and therefore The tools they carry are for personal protection and defensive situations if they can’t. SWAT is offensive in nature and their tools reflect that. They don’t do tasers and pepper spray. They do guns, ballistic shields and helmets. Once the SWAT team is called in your window of negotiation has passed. You may get lucky and they use their non lethal weapons first (beanbag shotguns, concussion grenades) but they fully intend to take you out with a toe tag. Long story short, this guy clearly doesn’t understand the difference and therefore only sounds bitter to those that know better. Uniform cops are not equipped to take on any given situation. Those that do are truly doing what they signed up for and putting their life on the line.
 
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1vol8 said:
You post this as if we’re stupid enough to believe all cops share the same opinion. And I can assure you they don’t. As a former LEO myself I question how authentic his claim to be one actually is. Each unit serves its own purpose. Uniform cops goal is to DEesulate and therefore The tools they carry are for personal protection and defensive situations if they can’t. SWAT is offensive in nature and their tools reflect that. They don’t do tasers and pepper spray. They do guns, ballistic shields and helmets. Once the SWAT team is called in your window of negotiation has passed. You may get lucky and they use their non lethal weapons first (beanbag shotguns, concussion grenades) but they fully intend to take you out with a toe tag.
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GTFO with your straw man BS

Long story short, this guy clearly doesn’t understand the difference and therefore only sounds bitter to those that know better. Uniform cops are not equipped to take on any given situation. Those that do are truly doing what they signed up for and putting their life on the line.
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You mean they would be doing their jobs? Cool.
 
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1vol8 said:
You’re as clueless as he is. Never understood the percentage of the population that thinks they know it all
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You have me quoting someone else's tweet (without comment) and telling you not make straw man arguments. So WTF am I clueless about? What have I even said that's wrong or erroneous (rhetorical, the answer is nothing)?

You've responded to me a few times ITT and have made the same error again and again, misattributing positions and ideas to me. Kindly **** all the way off and waste someone else's time.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You have me quoting someone else's tweet (without comment) and telling you not make straw man arguments. So WTF am I clueless about? What have I even said that's wrong or erroneous (rhetorical, the answer is nothing)?

You've responded to me a few times ITT and have made the same error again and again, misattributing positions and ideas to me. Kindly **** all the way off and waste someone else's time.
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You used to be such a nice young man, years on the political forum is bad for your health and demeanor. I'm exhibit 1.
 
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VolStrom said:
You used to be such a nice young man, years on the political forum is bad for your health and demeanor. I'm exhibit 1.
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Haha, actually I started out pretty nasty, and then I was overtly nice for a while, and then I stopped tolerating politics forums people who are just here to waste time. I swear a lot and I think people confuse that with anger. It's just how I talk on a message board to people that aren't here to learn/exchange ideas.
 
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n_huffhines said:
You have me quoting someone else's tweet (without comment) and telling you not make straw man arguments. So WTF am I clueless about? What have I even said that's wrong or erroneous (rhetorical, the answer is nothing)?

You've responded to me a few times ITT and have made the same error again and again, misattributing positions and ideas to me. Kindly **** all the way off and waste someone else's time.
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Because you posted it as if it were of your opinion he was correct. Otherwise it wouldn’t have been worth your time if you didn’t agree. I simply pointed out he was wrong and likely never a cop. I can point out several other things within his tweet that support my opinion as well but chose to stick with the meat of his tweet and explained the difference in uniform cops vs SWAT. If you can’t understand the difference, I can’t help you
 
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1vol8 said:
Because you posted it as if it were of your opinion he was correct. Otherwise it wouldn’t have been worth your time if you didn’t agree. I simply pointed out he was wrong and likely never a cop. I can point out several other things within his tweet that support my opinion as well but chose to stick with the meat of his tweet and explained the difference in uniform cops vs SWAT. If you can’t understand the difference, I can’t help you
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1. Your problem was you claimed I'm conveying that all cops think this way, which is completely false.
2. Your opinion that this didn't come from a cop does not make it so. This is Radley Balko, a respected journalist who is in contact with the source. You are an anonymous nobody on the internet and don't actually know anything about the source.
3. Nobody needed to know the difference between SWAT and uniformed cops.
4. Stop wasting everybody's time.
 
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n_huffhines said:
1. Your problem was you claimed I'm conveying that all cops think this way, which is completely false.
2. Your opinion that this didn't come from a cop does not make it so. This is Radley Balko, a respected journalist who is in contact with the source. You are an anonymous nobody on the internet and don't actually know anything about the source.
3. Nobody needed to know the difference between SWAT and uniformed cops.
4. Stop wasting everybody's time.
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1) post without comment says “imma just leave this right here”
2) I guess Radley should’ve done some research before attaching his name to what he posts? Kinda makes him look uninformed himself.
3) This guy seemed to need to know the difference because judging by this quote, he still doesn’t get it
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GTFO with your straw man BS



You mean they would be doing their jobs? Cool.
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4) I don’t think I’m wasting anyone’s time. Just here having fun
 
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Just heard the Ohio bill about allowing teachers to carry a firearm. Also learned that since 2018 parkland shooting in florida. Teachers there can carry a firearm. I couldnt find any more school shooting in Florida....if true thats a huge statement to allowing teachers to conceal carry.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
'I'm scaring kids straight': Florida sheriff who perp walked 10-year-old boy for joking about buying AR-15s after Texas shooting has done the same to at least eight other kids under the age of 18

  • Lee County Sheriff Carmine Marceno said sharing juvenile mugshots makes kids 'afraid of the consequences'
  • His office has shared the mugshots of at least nine child offenders
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These are the mugshots of eight juvenile offenders that have been publicly ousted by Lee County officials

Sheriff who perp-walked 10-year-old boy over school shooting threat says he's scaring kids straight | Daily Mail Online
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Florida 10-year-old Girl Arrested, Charged with Murder of Woman fighting her mom

The Orlando Police Department took the child into custody on suspicion of second-degree murder and took her to a juvenile facility. However, potential charges have been referred to the office of State Attorney Monique Worrell, police said.

The killing of Lashun Rodgers, 41, occurred on May 30 when she got into a fight with the child's mother, Lakrisha Isaac, 31, at an apartment complex, authorities said. The child took out her mother's gun and fired two rounds, police said.

Florida 10-year-old girl arrested, charged with murder of woman fighting her mom
 
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1vol8 said:
You post this as if we’re stupid enough to believe all cops share the same opinion. And I can assure you they don’t. As a former LEO myself I question how authentic his claim to be one actually is. Each unit serves its own purpose. Uniform cops goal is to DEesulate and therefore The tools they carry are for personal protection and defensive situations if they can’t. SWAT is offensive in nature and their tools reflect that. They don’t do tasers and pepper spray. They do guns, ballistic shields and helmets. Once the SWAT team is called in your window of negotiation has passed. You may get lucky and they use their non lethal weapons first (beanbag shotguns, concussion grenades) but they fully intend to take you out with a toe tag. Long story short, this guy clearly doesn’t understand the difference and therefore only sounds bitter to those that know better. Uniform cops are not equipped to take on any given situation. Those that do are truly doing what they signed up for and putting their life on the line.
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Even though I do understand what you are saying , I just watched a video from Sheriff Grady from Polk county Florida, He isn’t taking that same stance . He has a very strong opinion about what they will do in that situation as soon as they roll up to it .
 
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0nelilreb said:
Even though I do understand what you are saying , I just watched a video from Sheriff Grady from Polk county Florida, He isn’t taking that same stance . He has a very strong opinion about what they will do in that situation as soon as they roll up to it .
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Shoot first, no cameras (unless they're all pointed at Grady)
 
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utvolpj said:
Shoot first, no cameras (unless they're all pointed at Grady)
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He said they the first one(s) on scene go to the shooter . There will be no waiting . I only know about him through his pressers but from what I’ve seen , I believe him . I also think I would find a different county to live in , if I had nefarious intentions other than Polk .
 
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0nelilreb said:
He said they the first one(s) on scene go to the shooter . There will be no waiting . I only know about him through his pressers but from what I’ve seen , I believe him . I also think I would find a different county to live in , if I had nefarious intentions other than Polk .
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He's got good and bad but he fits Polk

I also have zero doubt in how his officers would respond. Any chickens would have their face plastered on TV from his press conf
 
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0nelilreb said:
Even though I do understand what you are saying , I just watched a video from Sheriff Grady from Polk county Florida, He isn’t taking that same stance . He has a very strong opinion about what they will do in that situation as soon as they roll up to it .
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Most agencies wouldn’t take that same stance in Florida. And I’m not saying I do. I was only responding to the tweet he posted suggesting SWAT is unnecessary. If he had slowed his roll a bit he may have learned we both agree on the overall point. Those cops should’ve went in. However, I understand why they didn’t if they were ordered to stand down. I just wouldn’t have followed that order and I would’ve possibly lost my life but definitely my job that day.
 
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