19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

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WoodsmanVol said:
That's a lie, intentional or not, still a lie. I've had a gun stuck in my face twice in my lifetime. Once while walking down a street, a car full of punks pulled up, one jumped with a .357, comes up close and personal with it aimed inches from my head. One of his buds shouted, "That ain't him!" Guy jumps back in the car, and they speed off. The other, was I exited a Kmart store, guy walking ahead of me whirled around pointed a .38 at my head. It made me mad, I pushed my head against the barrel and glared to him. Three seconds of that, and he ran off to his car and left. Don't try telling me there aren't jackasses who will pull a gun on you for no reason at all, it's dayum lie.
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Impressive caliber identification skills.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Your response to the video evidence presented was pure speculation. Sit down until you have a response drawn from anything that isn't room temp IQ.
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So calling a dude Out for speculating on a video without audio is speculation? Got it. Maybe I’m not the one that needs to sit down
 
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n_huffhines said:
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I’m telling you guys….. the more info that leaks the more this looks set up.

I’ve called these cops cowards. Now that I’ve learned more, I take it back. These cops were told to stand down and now the chief is MIA and not cooperating. For a chief of police to not cooperate with an investigation, says there’s more information than we’re ready to hear or understand.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
13-year-old Driving Stolen Car Shot Dead by San Antonio, Texas, Police

A 13-year-old boy driving a stolen car was shot dead by a Texas police officer after cops say the teen rammed a patrol vehicle during a chase Friday.

The San Antonio Police Department said officers were responding to reports of shots fired in the 5100 block of War Cloud Street around 1:30 a.m. when they spotted a red car with three teenagers inside.

When the 13-year-old driver of the vehicle, which police said had been reported as stolen, saw cops, he backed up and T-boned a marked San Antonio police cruiser, according to the station KSAT.

According to the agency, one of the officers fired a single shot at the stolen car, striking the 13-year-old driver once in the abdomen.

Child driving stolen car killed by San Antonio, Texas cops
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Shocking Moment 12-YEAR-OLD Robs a Michigan Gas Station at Gunpoint: Boy aims his Gun at cashier and Fires a warning Shot after she asks 'are you serious?'

A youngster was caught on surveillance camera video holding up a Michigan gas station as he demanded the money from the cashier.

Footage sees the skinny 12-year-old waiting calmly in line in the town of Hartford, with his hand in his backpack as a customer in front of him pay for gas.

When he reaches the front of the line he whips out a pistol from his black bag and demands money.

'Put the money in the bag!' the boys states calmly. The cashier appears incredulous at the request initially and asks him, 'Are you serious?'

To ensure she sees his request as legitimate the boy fires a round into the ceiling.

Boy, 12, arrested for carrying out armed robbery on gas station in Hartford Michigan | Daily Mail Online
 
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Gandalf said:
Spend some time here and you will have a good idea at least
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Been to JKMF many many times, the trout out of Slickrock are awesome.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m telling you guys….. the more info that leaks the more this looks set up.

I’ve called these cops cowards. Now that I’ve learned more, I take it back. These cops were told to stand down and now the chief is MIA and not cooperating. For a chief of police to not cooperate with an investigation, says there’s more information than we’re ready to hear or understand.
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Just use Occam's razor until you have more to back that up. The chief might not be cooperating for any number of reasons. For example, maybe the men weren't told to stand down, that was just made up to cover for them and they don't have answers as to why they were told to stand down because it's not what happened.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Does it take an hour to kill 20 people with a baseball bat?
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Since no such attack has ever happened ... and never will .... I suppose we can only speculate - which also proves my f'ing point. You idiots are identifying something as a valid threat, which has never happened. You have to guess how long it would take to kill over 20 people with a baseball bat. Do I need to do that with an AR 15 style rifle? Nope. We have multiple events since 2012.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m telling you guys….. the more info that leaks the more this looks set up.

I’ve called these cops cowards. Now that I’ve learned more, I take it back. These cops were told to stand down and now the chief is MIA and not cooperating. For a chief of police to not cooperate with an investigation, says there’s more information than we’re ready to hear or understand.
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This thread just wouldn't have been complete without a right-wing conspiracy theory.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I can’t speak to the dude’s worth, but I can say his appearance wouldn’t make a favorable first impression with my wife if he was dating our daughter.
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I know people who looked similar when they were younger. Most were and are good people. And some have done very well in life, materially. Just to be clear I was referring to his worth as a human and not his monetary worth.
 
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1vol8 said:
I’m telling you guys….. the more info that leaks the more this looks set up.

I’ve called these cops cowards. Now that I’ve learned more, I take it back. These cops were told to stand down and now the chief is MIA and not cooperating. For a chief of police to not cooperate with an investigation, says there’s more information than we’re ready to hear or understand.
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If I'm reading right, it wasn't the regular cops that breached the school and put a stop to the killer. It was border patrol agents who opted to ignore the don't breach order. So whether the local cops weren't gutless or not, they stood around doing nothing. The border guys took it on themselves to do what no one else in uniform was doing. I do wonder if the chief did the setting up of his own men.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
If I'm reading right, it wasn't the regular cops that breached the school and put a stop to the killer. It was border patrol agents who opted to ignore the don't breach order. So whether the local cops weren't gutless or not, they stood around doing nothing. The border guys took it on themselves to do what no one else in uniform was doing. I do wonder if the chief did the setting up of his own men.
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Border patrol agents wouldn’t have to listen to a stand down order given by local police/sheriff. Different agencies, different chain of command
 
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n_huffhines said:
Just use Occam's razor until you have more to back that up. The chief might not be cooperating for any number of reasons. For example, maybe the men weren't told to stand down, that was just made up to cover for them and they don't have answers as to why they were told to stand down because it's not what happened.
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I’ve been saying since this started that the cops on scene appeared to have the body language of a group of men being told to stand down. Multiple reports since suggests that’s correct. Chief becomes MIA, a mother being threatened with charges if she speaks to the media and nothing makes any sense from one report to another when there is only one truth. I think I have more than enough to make the claim that it seems set up. Democrats are desperate
 
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VolStrom said:
You said blah blah blah and then this:


How many schools have you ever been to that had an outward opening door? I went to a lot of schools and never once did I witness a classroom door that opened out. There is a good reason that doors don't open out, want to guess why?
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My middle and high schools did
 
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VolStrom said:
WTF is "proof of insurance" for a gun? Do I only need liability, or do I have to carry collision too in case I shoot someone accidentally?
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Collision would be for damage to your gun if the gun collided with something. So, if you accidentally drop the gun and it hits someone or something, the damage to whoever or whatever you hit is liability. The damage to your gun is collision.
 
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I agree that maybe a baseball bat wouldnt cause as much damage, but im not so sure about a knife. Bad guy gets in the room, immediately goes after both adults. Even at 18 hes probably just as strong if not stronger than both teachers, Ive read that the two rooms he went back and forth between were adjoining, so take them out separately and then he has an open path to do as he pleases. Maybe the cops, do act differently if its known the guy just has a knife, but thats nothing but speculation. What are a bunch of 10 year olds going to do against an adult with a knife though, they wont know how to react and after seeing their teachers get taken out they would probably be in some sort of panic. If the bad guy has 10 minutes behind closed doors with a bunch of 10 year olds and really wants to, I would say he could kill 21 kids.
 
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1vol8 said:
Border patrol agents wouldn’t have to listen to a stand down order given by local police/sheriff. Different agencies, different chain of command
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Thank goodness, who knows how much and how long more kid-killing would have resulted if border patrol didn't act. They were officials truly worthy of wearing the uniform and badge.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
That’s what I find interesting. These people think making laws will stop people that are breaking the law by murdering people. It literally makes zero sense.
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Agree that laws don't stop the criminally bent. What does make sense is denying access to mass-killing machines, if for naught else, reduce the body counts. Now, if the Ruskies pulled an Ukraine on the USA, I'd change my tune immediately. However, a citizen war on unarmed and innocent citizens isn't the same thing.
 
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