19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

This is ridiculous. And it does have to stop. However I have become hopeless that there are enough “adults in the room” to actually make a change.

We are already seeing BOTH sides dig into their political roots, trying to further divide the middle and garner support for any future election. Indeed, never let a crisis go to waste.

We have, as usual, been divided by an either/or mentality. It’s the guns. No, its the person. We need laws to limit guns. No, we need laws to limit people.

Where is the voice of unity and common ground? It has to be somewhere. All I know is that it won’t be found in our government or political arena.
 
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Whose morality?

You just nailed the problem. Who's morality.

He obviously thought his morality was fine. You
post-modernists, who don't belive in objective morality, will always wrestling with what's right and wrong because you have no objective truth or morality. Kids are not taught morality because it's too close to what Christ teaches.
 
FBI: 61 'active shooter incidents' reported in 2021, 52% jump from 2020

Report also cited only 4 times was a private citizen carrying a firearm able to intervene. Debunks the whole NRA argument that more people carrying guns makes us all safer. I have no problem with hunting rifles and most handguns. AR-15 is not hunting rifle. It's all about the NRA false narrative that some big government Boogeyman is going to take all your guns, so you better arm up now, but in reality it's just about selling more guns.

If guns are the problem why is it not reflected in homicide rates?

White Americans have the most guns, yet are less likely to commit homicide and/or mass murder than black Americans.

White Americans own more guns than the rest of the world yet the homicide rate is on par with Canada and/or europe
 
So tired of hearing someone was " bullied".
Before that it was the " mothers" fault.
If this butt wipe had survived he would have been found mentally challenged and received 5 years of evaluations.
Some people are just evil and get off on doing evil ****.
there are evil people but I have doubt all are born that way. We can teach our kids to be a little nicer to others who are different. Adults can try it as well
 
This is ridiculous. And it does have to stop. However I have become hopeless that there are enough “adults in the room” to actually make a change.

We are already seeing BOTH sides dig into their political roots, trying to further divide the middle and garner support for any future election. Indeed, never let a crisis go to waste.

We have, as usual, been divided by an either/or mentality. It’s the guns. No, its the person. We need laws to limit guns. No, we need laws to limit people.

Where is the voice of unity and common ground? It has to be somewhere. All I know is that it won’t be found in our government or political arena.
The problem we face is we do not have leaders that can sit in a room and come to an agreement on anything. They are more interested in power than solutions.

My anger is directed toward political figures we have had for decades in some cases that have created this toxic political landscape.
 
Since I had one of those anesthesia induced naps earlier today and felt a bit too fuzzy to comment later, I'm risking repeating what somebody else already has posted. The dems will want this to be about guns and gun control. The fact is that these actions are hyped for all they are worth in news and in politics for their sensationalism to support positions. So some guy wanting attention does what is certain to garner attention. For a long time, flying the flag at half mast was done to honor a person of real significance; now it's done to honor victims of random violence - what better way to draw attention to yourself than by being the instrument of a presidential decree. Stop putting these people on page one and making half the news about them, and the world is safer for those who may be future victims.
I've been on saying this for a while.
 
You just nailed the problem. Who's morality.

He obviously thought his morality was fine. You
post-modernists, who don't belive in objective morality, will always wrestling with what's right and wrong because you have no objective truth or morality. Kids are not taught morality because it's too close to what Christ teaches.
One minor but important correction- the "tolerant" don't wrestle at all with morality. They ebb and flow with ease and emptyheadedness in the direction of whatever the TV, politicians, or whatever idol they've put in front of themselves tells them to.
 
The problem we face is we do not have leaders that can sit in a room and come to an agreement on anything. They are more interested in power than solutions.

My anger is directed toward political figures we have had for decades in some cases that have created this toxic political landscape.

It’s another issue (add abortion and immigration), that NEITHER side in the political arena seems to want a solution. Maintaining the problem maintains their control over the electorate.
 
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This is ridiculous. And it does have to stop. However I have become hopeless that there are enough “adults in the room” to actually make a change.

We are already seeing BOTH sides dig into their political roots, trying to further divide the middle and garner support for any future election. Indeed, never let a crisis go to waste.

We have, as usual, been divided by an either/or mentality. It’s the guns. No, its the person. We need laws to limit guns. No, we need laws to limit people.

Where is the voice of unity and common ground? It has to be somewhere. All I know is that it won’t be found in our government or political arena.
Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.
 
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there are evil people but I have doubt all are born that way. We can teach our kids to be a little nicer to others who are different. Adults can try it as well
Everything is taught from that viewpoint….. people always focus on the bullying which will never be stopped completely….. They never ever focus on teaching the person being bullied how to stand up for themselves.

My daughter had absentee seizures which caused her to be delayed… She was getting picked on at the school playground…. I told her that I wasn’t going to the school and that she needed to stand up for herself…. I told her some things to do based off what was happening and the next day she came home extremely proud of herself…. The bullies left her alone and she gained a new level of respect….
 
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And that ladies and gentlemen is why this country is permanently broken. Our glorious government has created a climate over decades of division and hate. We have become so blinded by what the media and government thinks. At what point do people realize what things like this truly are? It’s nothing more than pure evil. It’s not white supremacy, illegal aliens, right or left wing. It’s simply evil plain and simply.
Ephesians 6:12
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.
 
Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.

This country wasn’t built on hatred nor is it the foundation of the union today. When one of these events happen the usual suspects come out and try to take advantage of it to push their anti-2A agenda and people react to them. Nobody wants to discuss the root causes of these events because to do so would endanger one of their sacred cows.
 
Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.
I don’t agree with that at all….. the overwhelming majority get along especially when politics isn’t the topic…With a country of 330,000,000…. There will always be bad seeds that ruin it though. I work at a place with mixed-race…. Mixed political ideologies and everyone gets along great…. Social media makes it seem like everyone is at each other throats all the time.
 
Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.
Get out in your community and off social media. I bet you’ll find the majority of people are pretty good folks regardless of political beliefs or anything else.
 
Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.
Who is going to help save a country that murders babies for profit while claiming to be outraged by the murder of more babies?
 
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This country wasn’t built on hatred nor is it the foundation of the union today. When one of these events happen the usual suspects come out and try to take advantage of it to push their anti-2A agenda and people react to them. Nobody wants to discuss the root causes of these events because to do so would endanger one of their sacred cows.
Yes it is. Have you seen this board?
 
Lots to think about, that's for sure. The anger and vitriol is getting worse, and the leaps in logic to explain how it's ok are getting more complicated.
People are mainly pizzed at the clear targeting of children by the LGBTQ movement. I don't care what 2 grown adults do in their bedrooms. But leave the children alone and don't be out here advancing LGBTQ lifestyles to children.

How hard is that? That is the primary source of most people's outrage.
 

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