19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[ETV]

Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.

This forum is to share viewpoints and disagreements. Although, there are some here who believe otherwise and make it more of a personal matter.

That's not hatred. It's called ignorance.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Shouldn’t be a need for that and making school security unnecessary should be the goal we all work towards.

We didn't have a need for that when I was going to school.

 

[landscapingvol]

The greatest trick the devil has ever done is make people believe he (and his demons) don't exist or operate on this planet. Even churches shy away from it.

The moment you look into a person that has one of these demons in them is the moment your life changes. You see right through them. It looks like the scene with Theoden in Lord of the Rings.

If you truly believe in demon possession, then how does one caste a demon out? There is no recipe in the Bible nor is their a set of scriptures to repeat regardless of what movies teach. Demon possession, speaking in tongues, prophecy, laying on of hands, etc. were all necessary during a certain time and place but that time and place has passed. Can someone be a slave to sin and have it consume them? Certainly, but that is not the same thing as is described during many examples in the New Testament.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I wasn't talking about me. This makes no sense.

It doesn't necessarily need to be about you. You can create victims. You are a master at playing the victim card whenever you see fit.

 

[InVOLuntary]

It shouldn't be rhetorical.
Don't know enough details yet. How did he get the guns? What types of past behaviors? Social media posting history?

Plus there is always the great unknown. How many potential shooters have been stopped because of laws? I would hope we are all intellectual honest enough to answer - don't know, but undoubtedly some.

Every time there's one of these shootings you and your communist friends don't wait on anything. You use it to advance your ideals to disarm the citizens. You don't even wait for the bodies to chill.

Sure, laws prevent crime. Laws prevent people that care about consequences that otherwise would commit crime. Some people don't commit crimes because they are simply good people that have moral standards that make them not commit crime. The people that commit these and other crimes don't fear consequences. That's why more gun control laws won't work. These people don't obey any laws and they won't obey additional laws.

Do you actually think this guy thought to himself "This is against the law so I shouldn't do it?"

 

[theFallGuy]

Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.

Yep the whole country. Hatred. We suck

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

One would hope that now that it’s known this was preventable, maybe these schools will spend less $ and focus on things like diversity officers, bloated administration, grooming, and useless classes and more on physical access controls

 

[mr.checkerboards]

One would hope that now that it’s known this was preventable, maybe these schools will spend less $ and focus on things like diversity officers, bloated administration, grooming, and useless classes and more on physical access controls

Lol. They'll never liberals are too busy spreading their lies to ever enact real change.

 

[AshG]

What was the point of your post? The shooter was a minority and the victims were presumably mostly minority children as well or were you bringing up another strawman argument to pander to a certain group on this board?

There's no one for me to pander to here. I'm not ticking any boxes or trying to earn worthless e-cred.

Just say this place needs to be an echo chamber. Be open about it. There's no point in hiding that those who don't conform to the groupthink will be ostracized.

 

[Ashevolle]

You believe he’s saying we should force all teachers to carry guns? Or just allow the ones who wish to carry a gun?

I’ve never taught at a school where I was the only veteran

I'm saying it's a dumb idea to fix the problem. The fact that he and others think that introducing more guns is a viable solution if naive.

 

[Vol8188]

I'm saying it's a dumb idea to fix the problem. The fact that he and others think that introducing more guns is a viable solution if naive.

Yet you refuse to answer my questions about guns?

If guns are the problem as you are claiming, why do white people own more guns but are less likely to commit homicides or mass murders?

Why are homicide rates for white Americans with all their guns, on par with as those for Canadians and the UK?

 

[Caculator]

It really isn’t. The evil it takes to kill little children isn’t stopped because someone is worried about a cop at a door.

A lie pulled out of thin air

 

[landscapingvol]

There's no one for me to pander to here. I'm not ticking any boxes or trying to earn worthless e-cred.

Just say this place needs to be an echo chamber. Be open about it. There's no point in hiding that those who don't conform to the groupthink will be ostracized.

If 12 people in a room say that the wall is brown but one lone voice argues that it's actually green doesn't make that lone voice the voice of reason. I disagree with plenty of people on this board, but with all due respect your disagreements generally slant in a certain direction and that is fine there is nothing wrong with that but you can't claim to be a voice of reason when your reasoning tends fall to a certain slant.

 

[Ashevolle]

What’s your point? Is it not that guns are the problem?

Also, I’ll gladly back any of those claims. I’ve posted information on all them before.

My point is that you've not proven your point

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yeah, **** them. BOT.

Yeah let’s care more about the LGBTQ community than dead children and their families. Good grief man.

 

[Vol8188]

My point is that you've not proven your point

What exactly would you like me to prove? Stop talking in circles and speak directly

 

[utvolpj]

If 12 people in a room say that the wall is brown but one lone voice argues that it's actually green doesn't make that lone voice the voice of reason. I disagree with plenty of people on this board, but with all due respect your disagreements generally slant in a certain direction and that is fine there is nothing wrong with that but you can't claim to be a voice of reason when your reasoning tends fall to a certain slant.

What if it is green? There are quite a few discussions on here where that's the case but no one wants to admit defeat. Then they start taking about the carpet to distract from the obviously green wall

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

All laws are broken. Do you actually think that is proof that laws are ineffective and unneeded?

Over 20k gun laws. Stop with your BS.

 

[allvol123]

A lie pulled out of thin air

What is the lie?

 

[evillawyer]

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

So tired of hearing someone was " bullied".
Before that it was the " mothers" fault.
If this butt wipe had survived he would have been found mentally challenged and received 5 years of evaluations.
Some people are just evil and get off on doing evil ****.

Simple and to the point.

 

[Ashevolle]

What exactly would you like me to prove? Stop talking in circles and speak directly

It may surprise you, but IDGAF what you're trying to sell, cause I ain't buying it.

 

[allvol123]

All victims killed were in same room.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Right on cue from you.

 

[landscapingvol]

What if it is green? There are quite a few discussions on here where that's the case but no one wants to admit defeat. Then they start taking about the carpet to distract from the obviously green wall

I agree and that does happen but my point is being the lone voice of dissent on a certain topic doesn't always mean that lone voice is reasonable. I am not necessarily talking about politics just in general.