19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[ButchPlz]

If you truly believe in demon possession, then how does one caste a demon out? There is no recipe in the Bible nor is their a set of scriptures to repeat regardless of what movies teach. Demon possession, speaking in tongues, prophecy, laying on of hands, etc. were all necessary during a certain time and place but that time and place has passed. Can someone be a slave to sin and have it consume them? Certainly, but that is not the same thing as is described during many examples in the New Testament.

First, I never said anything about casting them out in an exorcism. There are ways to combat demonic forces aside from casting out demons, which are listed all through the latter part of the NT.

Second, you're making a big theological assumption using sola scriptura. Do you think God solely speaks through the Bible? Do you think He no longer provides revelation, that He is essentially silent and dead?

Third, I'm not sure you have any authority or standing to say any time and place have passed. Care to explain what you mean?

 

[utvolpj]

The doors should be locked to prevent unauthorized entry. They are at my kids school

 

[Vol8188]

It may surprise you, but IDGAF what you're trying to sell, cause I ain't buying it.

You believe I made those claims up?

Surely you realize black Americans commit far more homicides right and therefore the white homicide rate is far lower?

Which of things I’ve said do you feel isn’t obvious and would like to see data on? I’ll happily provide it

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Guns are ALWAYS tied to these events. It's time to put two and two together.

Cool. Can you guarantee me that ALL criminals will give up ALL of their guns and never get another one?

 

[ButchPlz]

Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.

Didn't you make a post out of the blue quite literally and specifically saying you hated me?

 

[Ashevolle]

You believe I made those claims up?

Surely you realize black Americans commit far more homicides right and therefore the white homicide rate is far lower?

Which of things I’ve said do you feel isn’t obvious and would like to see data on? I’ll happily provide it

You seem intent on making a gun control debate a black v white thing. What does that say about you? And how is it relevant?

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

FBI: 61 'active shooter incidents' reported in 2021, 52% jump from 2020

Report also cited only 4 times was a private citizen carrying a firearm able to intervene. Debunks the whole NRA argument that more people carrying guns makes us all safer. I have no problem with hunting rifles and most handguns. AR-15 is not hunting rifle. It's all about the NRA false narrative that some big government Boogeyman is going to take all your guns, so you better arm up now, but in reality it's just about selling more guns.

Are you contending that people don't hunt with AR15s?

 

[utvolpj]

Are you contending that people don't hunt with AR15s?

You mean all those hunting trips in took were a dream? Damn

 

[ButchPlz]

You seem intent on making a gun control debate a black v white thing. What does that say about you?

It's a point of statistical reality, not whatever you're making it out to be. You can assign whatever reasons you want behind it (a culture glorifying violence is what I think it is), but you can't argue the truth.

Punishing and restricting the majority over the crimes of a tiny minority is immoral.

 

[Caculator]

What is the lie?

You asserted that a security measure implemented at schools would not stop someone from mass murder, even though it has not been instituted in schools.

You were lying

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

You mean all those hunting trips in took were a dream? Damn

You actually went to war and didn't even realize it.

 

[Vol8188]

You seem intent on making a gun control debate a black v white thing. What does that say about you? And how is it relevant?

Because a gun control debate should obviously be about guns. So if the people who own the most guns are committing less homicides and less mass murders proportionally, is that not extremely relevant?

It seems to prove the issue is not guns.

 

[Jxn Vol]

If an AR 15 is not a hunting rifle then I guess I have assassinated all those coyotes I killed.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ban cars.

 

[allvol123]

You asserted that a security measure implemented at schools would not stop someone from mass murder even though it has not been instituted in schools.

You were lying

If someone wants to kill, has any decent plan whatsoever, and can physically carry it out, then it will happen. Your cop at the door isn’t gonna stop it.

My kid’s elementary school probably has 10 plus entry points. All the kids in Texas were killed in one room. How is a cop at the front door gonna stop it?

 

[Caculator]

If someone wants to kill, has any decent plan whatsoever, and can physically carry it out, then it will happen. Your cop at the door isn’t gonna stop it.

My kid’s elementary school probably has 10 plus entry points. All the kids in Texas were killed in one room. How is a cop at the front door gonna stop it?

At least you admit to the lie

Your other gratuitous assertions about deterrence are daft

 

[zeppelin128]

Yeah let’s care more about the LGBTQ community than dead children and their families. Good grief man.

Yeah, **** them. Cause we can't do both.

 

[hog88]

There can be no common ground in a situation like this because one side blames the shooter and the other blames the gun.

Unless the middle ground is to blame both. And even that won't be right answer.

Out of the two you mentioned only one holds any blame and it isn't the inanimate object.

 

[allvol123]

At least you admit to the lie

Your other gratuitous assertions about deterrence are daft

I admit to no lie. Keep dreaming up your Avengers comic book method to deterrence.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The doors should be locked to prevent unauthorized entry. They are at my kids school

In fairness, if this was a school in a largely Hispanic community (just basing that on the victims), I could understand them not feeling the need to have the doors locked. This is the first school rampage shooting I've ever heard of like this.

 

[Ashevolle]

It's a point of statistical reality, not whatever you're making it out to be. You can assign whatever reasons you want behind it (a culture glorifying violence is what I think it is), but you can't argue the truth.

Punishing and restricting the majority over the crimes of a tiny minority is immoral.

bUT white people commit gun crimes too. So the distinction is pointless. People with red hair commit less gun crimes too, but who cares? Maybe we should fix the whole problem instead of shifting focus to a subset of the actual problem. It's a sidestepping of the issue at hand.

 

[hog88]

We didn't have a need for that when I was going to school.

Nope, neither did we and come fall there were easily accessible guns all over the school property.

 

[Caculator]

I admit to no lie. Keep dreaming up your Avengers comic book method to deterrence.

Lying, comic books, you are based in reality

 

[Ashevolle]

Because a gun control debate should obviously be about guns. So if the people who own the most guns are committing less homicides and less mass murders proportionally, is that not extremely relevant?

It seems to prove the issue is not guns.

That's faulty logic even if true. The fact they commit crimes (even if less) is still cause for concern and reinforces the need for gun control. Gun control is necessary across the board.

 

[Caculator]

He must have stolen gma's money to buy 2 Daniel defense AR's.