19 students, 3 adults dead in Texas elementary shooting.

[luthervol]

Every time there's one of these shootings you and your communist friends don't wait on anything. You use it to advance your ideals to disarm the citizens. You don't even wait for the bodies to chill.

Sure, laws prevent crime. Laws prevent people that care about consequences that otherwise would commit crime. Some people don't commit crimes because they are simply good people that have moral standards that make them not commit crime. The people that commit these and other crimes don't fear consequences. That's why more gun control laws won't work. These people don't obey any laws and they won't obey additional laws.

Do you actually think this guy thought to himself "This is against the law so I shouldn't do it?"

My first sentence: Don't know enough details yet.
Your first sentence: Every time there's one of these shootings you and your communist friends don't wait on anything.

 

[zeppelin128]

Prayer: Zero percent of the time it works everytime.

I'm surprised that shitbag took that time to give his performative bs.

 

[Weezy]

Nothing short of confiscating every gun is going to make a difference.

I hear you. Look, I'm not a gun guy, but the gun of choice typically has some typical characteristics. And it was clear that the kid never should have had access to them. It takes a special person to do this. There's got to be clues. We need to provide maximum resources to get these kids in front of counselors to get help, and selfishly identify that we need to be extra cautious with them.

 

[landscapingvol]

Gangs, drugs, poverty, mental illness, broken homes, diversity and a much larger population also are mostly American problems. Which are the actual issues

Destruction of the nuclear family, lack of respect for authority and people as a whole, faith in religion is declining at a steep rate, social media, inadequate mental health facilities

 

[evillawyer]

You misspelled in your opinion. It sure has helped a lot of families get through some very difficult times, myself included.

Assuming people pray because they believe it has a causal effect, don't those people have to admit that it either doesn't work, or God just doesn't give a flying flip about mass shootings. Because the efficacy of prayer in this context is zilch.

 

[ButchPlz]

Now in my father's day, they actually carried their shotguns to school and kept them in the lockers to hunt after school (or before). I dont have exact figures but I would strongly suspect that the level of gun ownership (meaning how many households own a gun) has not changed as a percentage of the population. If anything, it may have declined. Yet there were no shootings like this back then.

Only after the clock tower incident in 1966 did they start and even then it was still rare. Then there was a rash of them in the early 80s and more in the 90s (including Columbine). Since 2007, however, there have been over 21 mass shootings of more than 10 people.

What is it about PEOPLE that has changed? it isn't because there are more guns, more powerful guns or that they have easier access to them. For some reason, PEOPLE have decided that it is ok and that their means to significance is to murder a bunch of people. What is it about society that has taught them that is good? What has changed about society? One thing at least since 2007 is the advent of social media.

Some wonder why culture wars are important, this is part of the reason.

We have a culture of narcissism. The root of that is everyone thinking their personal opinion matters, that they need to be advocates, that they need to stand above everyone else. Sadly, many people see the way to get the attention that is so broadly glorified is to commit violence (either against themselves or against others).

 

[landscapingvol]

I'm surprised that shitbag took that time to give his performative bs.

What if he actually believes what he posted? Does it offend you?

 

[LargeOrange1]

Letting thousands more what invade?

To quote my favorite line from Shawshank Redemption:
"How can you be so obtuse"?

 

[evillawyer]

Destruction of the nuclear family, lack of respect for authority and people as a whole, faith in religion is declining at a steep rate, social media, inadequate mental health facilities

Every (or at least many) country has these issues. Only one has mass shootings as a regular occurrence. Maybe mass shootings are a symptom, but if you remove the guns, you remove that symptom. It's not hard.

 

[hog88]

Every (or at least many) country has these issues. Only one has mass shootings as a regular occurrence. Maybe mass shootings are a symptom, but if you remove the guns, you remove that symptom. It's not hard.

People didn't murder other people before guns?

 

[C-south]

I hear you. Look, I'm not a gun guy, but the gun of choice typically has some typical characteristics. And it was clear that the kid never should have had access to them. It takes a special person to do this. There's got to be clues. We need to provide maximum resources to get these kids in front of counselors to get help, and selfishly identify that we need to be extra cautious with them.

You can’t call these people mentally ill especially when our government promotes their lifestyle.

 

[TrumpedUpVol]

Gonna be honest for a bit. I don't think anything can be done. The cat is out of the bag. This is a country built on hatred. Look at this forum.

I might be in the minority here, but the sheer infrequency of tragedies like this given the ease of gun access and perceived/observed animus between fellow Americans leads me to believe that people overall are a lot better ("good", as opposed to "evil") than we might think at first blush.

 

[C-south]

Every (or at least many) country has these issues. Only one has mass shootings as a regular occurrence. Maybe mass shootings are a symptom, but if you remove the guns, you remove that symptom. It's not hard.

What other factors make us different from those other countries besides “guns”?

 

[Ttucke11]

I find it funny Biden is blaming the guns while being surrounded with body guards armed with guns.

Talk about being a hypocrite.

Gub'mnt good, need guns. Citizens bad, don't need guns.

 

[landscapingvol]

Assuming people pray because they believe it has a causal effect, don't those people have to admit that it either doesn't work, or God just doesn't give a flying flip about mass shootings. Because the efficacy of prayer in this context is zilch.

God didn't shoot those people nor did he give someone cancer, bad things happen all the time to good people and to bad people. If he stopped everything bad from happening and we all lived in a utopia where there was no disease or murder, would your faith be any stronger? No, it wouldn't so it really doesn't matter what happens you will still blame him

 

[landscapingvol]

What other factors make us different from those other countries besides “guns”?

He doesn't want to address those issues because they go against his fundamental political beliefs, so he and the Left lash out at guns and the NRA.

 

[InVOLuntary]

My first sentence: Don't know enough details yet.
Your first sentence: Every time there's one of these shootings you and your communist friends don't wait on anything.

Lol. Own it. Go to the second amendment thread.

 

[Ttucke11]

What other factors make us different from those other countries besides “guns”?

Relatively homogeneous populations, uniform cultural standards, a lot more knife assaults.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Was the shooter a legal citizen or illegal immigrant?

 

[utvolpj]

To quote my favorite line from Shawshank Redemption:
"How can you be so obtuse"?

Says the poster who won't answer a simple question. Who is the invader in this case?

 

[evillawyer]

God didn't shoot those people nor did he give someone cancer, bad things happen all the time to good people and to bad people. If he stopped everything bad from happening and we all lived in a utopia where there was no disease or murder, would your faith be any stronger? No, it wouldn't so it really doesn't matter what happens you will still blame him

So why pray if you don't believe it has any causal efficacy?

 

[Rickyvol77]

We've not had our forbears beaten by police for the crime of existing. We've not had our existence had to be made legal in this country through court action. We've not had our brothers and sisters beaten to a bloody pulp and hung on a fence to die for being how we're born.

The Matthew Shepard lie again

 

[85SugarVol]

Shouldn’t be a need for that and making school security unnecessary should be the goal we all work towards.

Of course. But “shouldn’t need” is great in theory.

 

[85SugarVol]

I will say again, this is not a solution.

Any age group, sex, race, political group, etc. can be a target by an adult male that desires to do damage. With a decent plan 20-50 can be taken out and there is little you can do to stop it.

Agreed.

But these monsters are seeking out easy targets, nothing more.

 

[Weezy]

I imagine in Europe your access to this type of weapon is very limited. There are likely other factors. I think we've glamorized death in this country more and more for the last 50 years. 90% if the main entertainment options involves some form of killing or fighting, starting in cartoons. I think parents have gotten lazier over here, including myself at times. I think society has become more enabling.