2011-2012 MLB offseason thread

#103
#103
He must either hypnotize players or forge signatures.

That is the best contract in baseball, and if it isn't, Longo's probably is...
 
#104
#104
It's good for the player, too. While it may not maximize his future value, it's guaranteed financial security. He goes from 440k to 14M. Baseball contracts are guaranteed and he's now set for life regardless of injury or poor performance.
 
#106
#106
First big scandal of the offseason. NL MVP Ryan Braun tested positive for PED's and is facing a possible 50 game ban.
 
#109
#109
Gave up a ton to get him. But they had too. The division is wide open for the Reds. I'm surprised that had to give up Alonso and Grandal. Also, not sure where Alonso is going to play in SD. They have Rizzo at 1b and he is younger...
 
#112
#112
I'm a fan of Latos but he's inconsistent. Also hard to see how much value Petco added to his numbers. Reds gave up way too much IMO, but they needed to make a move and were aggressive. I agree with division is open if Braun's suspension is upheld. Just think that's a hefty price tag. Was curious of your opinion ATL
 
#118
#118
VOLinthaATL said:
It doesn't concern me in the least.
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So, the Padres decide to trade a completely healthy 24 year old with incredible stuff that had a Cy Young type year in 2010, for two above average prospect hitters, one who can't even field?

It'd concern me.
 
#119
#119
zjcvols said:
So, the Padres decide to trade a completely healthy 24 year old with incredible stuff that had a Cy Young type year in 2010, for two above average prospect hitters, one who can't even field?

It'd concern me.
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I'd respond to the rest of your post but the bold part tells me you're clueless.
 
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#120
#120
The MLB's new "you can play three first basemen in San Diego" rule has to be the root of this deal.

I like Grandal. But it's just a little odd that they were so ready to ship Latos away.
 
#122
#122
The people that think this was a fleecing are clueless as to the needs and rosters of both teams. Both squads got better, and the Reds had to give up a minor league reliever, a worthless starter and two good prospects who were likely to be blocked for the foreseeable future to get a top of the line starter. In what world is that a bad trade?
 
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#124
#124
TBrown said:
I guess everyone associated with baseball is clueless.
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Everyone associated with baseball? Quite a reach there. If you're referring to people like Jim Bowden then I can only laugh.

What emainvol said hit the nail on the head. Yes, the Reds gave up quite a bit, but nothing they're going to miss in the next 3-4 years. The move needed to made to get a TOR pitcher.
 
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#125
#125
While I disagree with just about everything Bowden says, he has been a ML GM, you and I haven't.

I haven't read one single review praising the trade for the Reds. "Rival executives" were blasting it all day yesterday.

It doesn't matter that the prospects paths were blocked at the ML level. It's about value. The padres got a lot more of it than the reds did.
 
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