2012 GOP Nomination

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lawgator1 said:
The problem is that, historically, Christian evangelical or fundamentalist types seem to have a hard time separating out their religious dogma from policy-making.

Don't want a fanatic of any type in the WH. Its bad enough they can isolate a district and get into the House of Representatives.
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So you hated Carter's presidency?
 
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sjt18 said:
You have no leg to stand on considering Obama's long association with the radical ideas of Black Liberation Theology.

Wait... what happened to "judge not" there LG?
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LOL @ you. "Association."

Ok there, Mr. McCarthy.


tigervol9802 said:
I'm sure you are already digging up ways to declare him a racist too.
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I haven't heard or read one thing on him and race, one way or the other. Therefore, I have no opinion on that, one way or the other.
 
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tigervol9802 said:
So you hated Carter's presidency?
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Some Christians view it as their duty to be generous and warm-hearted, and specifically to help the poor. (Carter).


Others view it as an opportunity to get revenge against every person that wronged them in high school, to be petty and mean, and to generally dictate to others how they ought to live their lives. (fillintheblank)
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Seriously? Can you imagine the economic news getting any worse?
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That could be what helps him over the top. If there's even a slight uptick in the economy, he'll claim and the MSM will chant that things are turning around. The talking point will be that the hole Bush dug was so deep that it took Obama 4 years to get us out.

As long as the news agenda is set by the left in MSM... Obama has a shot no matter how bad things are. If you want proof... look no further than the support the Dems are getting for blaming the TP for the downgrade. The TP has been around for two years. The debt has been building for 40+... yet the downgrade is because the TP demanded fiscal sanity.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Some Christians view it as their duty to be generous and warm-hearted, and specifically to help the poor. (Carter).


Others view it as an opportunity to get revenge against every person that wronged them in high school, to be petty and mean, and to generally dictate to others how they ought to live their lives. (fillintheblank)
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That didn't answer the question.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Some Christians view it as their duty to be generous and warm-hearted, and specifically to help the poor. (Carter).
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There is nothing morally superior about being "generous and warm-hearted" or helping the poor with someone else's money.

To the extent that Carter has done it with his money and privately... he's to be commended.

Others view it as an opportunity to get revenge against every person that wronged them in high school, to be petty and mean, and to generally dictate to others how they ought to live their lives. (fillintheblank)
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Once again we see transference going on with you.
You seem intent on getting revenge on conservatives. I won't speculate on why.

In spite of your self-delusion, you really do not have the capability of reading the minds of people who think nothing like you.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Perry is most likely to win it and probably has best shot at winning over Obama - if he'll stop hosting Billy Graham meetings and such.
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I don't have a problem with hosting such events.

The issue is you are going to deliberately attract fringe groups. Right or wrong, the left can do it and get away. The right cannot.

That said, I'd rather have someone who will actually be legit as to who he is as opposed to cave under public pressure.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Others view it as an opportunity to get revenge against every person that wronged them in high school, to be petty and mean, and to generally dictate to others how they ought to live their lives. (fillintheblank)
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How does a Christian use Christianity to get "revenge"? Please explain!
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sjt18 said:
That could be what helps him over the top. If there's even a slight uptick in the economy, he'll claim and the MSM will chant that things are turning around. The talking point will be that the hole Bush dug was so deep that it took Obama 4 years to get us out.

As long as the news agenda is set by the left in MSM... Obama has a shot no matter how bad things are. If you want proof... look no further than the support the Dems are getting for blaming the TP for the downgrade. The TP has been around for two years. The debt has been building for 40+... yet the downgrade is because the TP demanded fiscal sanity.
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The Dems are blaming the TP for the downgrade because the TP will not allow the Bush tax cuts to expire on the wealthiest as part of a combined cut/revenue increase approach to the deficit.

I do not agree with Dem criticism that the TP folks just gumming things up is why the downgrade happened. I think complaints that they are unreasonably blocking tax increases on the wealthiest is a perfectly legitimate criticism to make, just as the TP can legitimately complain that the Dems are fighting too hard on entitlement reform.

Ideally, both would compromise and we'd see a turn around.

As to the "msm," its rather clear that you have fallen into this Limbaugh-inspired trap of decrying everyone who disagrees with you as part of the "msm" conspiracy against the far right. Ever stop to think that maybe the "msm" is right, and that Limbaugh is a douchebag?
 
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Another tidbit, though he is hardly the only one to do so, Perry was a strong critic of the federal relief money - but used much of it to balance his state budget. Which is running a defecit of 20million +
 
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#40
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Failure to address size of big G, military spending and entitlements were all democratic issues, but should be shoved down everyone's throat. They are a problem. Increasing taxes at a time like this is just absurd. I'm all for phased in taxes that leave investment returns where they are today. Predictability is a big part of the equation, so make the plan, set it in stone and let people make decisions.
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nbakerld said:
Luke?
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Vote Luke Perry, 2012!


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BigPapaVol said:
Failure to address size of big G, military spending and entitlements were all democratic issues, but should be shoved down everyone's throat. They are a problem. Increasing taxes at a time like this is just absurd. I'm all for phased in taxes that leave investment returns where they are today. Predictability is a big part of the equation, so make the plan, set it in stone and let people make decisions.
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You really think letting the Bush tax cuts expire on those making over, say, $500,000 a year will hurt the economy?
 
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New candidate emerges for the GOP, who are starving for someone who fits the bill, but who also won't antagonize independents.
 

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#49
Perry endorsed Giuliani and then McCain. That's bad enough for me to know I don't want to vote for him. He's probably not as bad as some, but he doesn't represent me.
 
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