2013 F Austin Nichols (Memphis Briarcrest)

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bleedingTNorange said:
Once again from EVERYTHING that's important to him first, PT and close to home, Duke just doesn't make sense to be the final choice. They have K, and they have the tradition, but they're not close to him and he'd have a hard time seeing the court his first year.

As I've been saying for a few months, if Memphis is really vein considered, I think they jump to #2 over duke. However, ys really hard to tell if this is just "recruit speak" or the real thing.

The fact he sounds sure about signing in the fall though is a good thing IMO.
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With the way his list is shaping up, I'm less and less convinced that PT and proximity to home are really all that important.

If PT is important, UVA, Vandy and Auburn should be leaders.

If proximity, then Memphis and Vandy.

UT and Duke, his alleged two leaders, never enter into the conversation.

I know his father has publicly said otherwise, but it just doesn't make sense.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Once again from EVERYTHING that's important to him first, PT and close to home, Duke just doesn't make sense to be the final choice. They have K, and they have the tradition, but they're not close to him and he'd have a hard time seeing the court his first year.

As I've been saying for a few months, if Memphis is really vein considered, I think they jump to #2 over duke. However, ys really hard to tell if this is just "recruit speak" or the real thing.

The fact he sounds sure about signing in the fall though is a good thing IMO.
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If you are a kid and play bb then all the criterias for picking a school can be thrown out the window when Duke, KY, NC, etc... comes knocking at the door. Just about guaranteed that you will get a contract at the next level. Yeah, he might not get his shot the first year, but more than likely his over all future wealth will greatly increased. With the orange glasses off, which school would you choose from his favorites list.

With all that said, I hope he comes to UT.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
With the way his list is shaping up, I'm less and less convinced that PT and proximity to home are really all that important.

If PT is important, UVA, Vandy and Auburn should be leaders.

If proximity, then Memphis and Vandy.

UT and Duke, his alleged two leaders, never enter into the conversation.

I know his father has publicly said otherwise, but it just doesn't make sense.
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As far as PT, I think you and KuoState are really under estimating the PT we will have in the post next year. There is a very realistic chance we will have ONE post player returning, that's including centers and forwards. We have probably at worst, tied for the best PT situation of any team.

As far as proximity, I think it's definitely a factor, the kid left the USA games because he was home sick, I'd say it's definitely a factor. IMO, their looking for him to be with a days trip distance, the Kings proved Knoxville is that. Having a daughter here helps with that trip also, they need to see her too, you kill 2 birds with one stone. You're also not counting her as a factor as being there. UT may be further than Vandy, but having his twin sister who he's very close to, there with him is a big comfort to someone who is big on family and not being far from home.

You have to find a medium, if proximity and playing time were it, then hed play at victory college and stay in Memphis. PT and proximity are factors, but obviously a succesful school, good relationship with coaches and a host of other things are factors also.

I'll say it again, right now it seems UT & Duke, but if Memphis is really a contender, I'd put them over duke.
 
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johnnybravo said:
If you are a kid and play bb then all the criterias for picking a school can be thrown out the window when Duke, KY, NC, etc... comes knocking at the door. Just about guaranteed that you will get a contract at the next level. Yeah, he might not get his shot the first year, but more than likely his over all future wealth will greatly increased. With the orange glasses off, which school would you choose from his favorites list.
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It depends on how you feel about your game and how quick you want to be at the next level. If you can't find the court year 1 at duke, and aren't sure about year 2 then who knows. If you then look at UT and see, hey they've got a starting spot for me, and Tobias jut went one and done First round. Jarnell, my good friend, is also going to go first round at some point. Maybe you feel confident in being one and done or two and done at UT, something not likely to be done at Duke.

If he said PT wasn't a factor, or wasn't a big factor I'd be less confident. However, his dad has specifically said Dukes depth at PF could end up eliminating them. Plus add in the kid left the USA games because he was homesick and...who knows.

All things considered I mentioned, I'd be UT bound.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
It depends on how you feel about your game and how quick you want to be at the next level. If you can't find the court year 1 at duke, and aren't sure about year 2 then who knows. If you then look at UT and see, hey they've got a starting spot for me, and Tobias jut went one and done First round. Jarnell, my good friend, is also going to go first round at some point.

If he said PT wasn't a factor, or wasn't a big factor I'd be less confident. However, his dad has specifically said Dukes depth at PF could end up eliminating them. Plus add in the kid left the USA games because he was homesick and...who knows.

All things considered I mentioned, I'd be UT bound.
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With everything you said, why not Vandy then? 2.5 hour drive, big time SEC program, proven can get to the next level there, elite education, winning tradition.

I agree, if Stokes goes first round this year, then 2 out of 3 years sending a one and done to the NBA really helps UT in recruiting the top players. That's why I think Stoke's development is such a key for our success.
 
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johnnybravo said:
With everything you said, why not Vandy then? 2.5 hour drive, big time SEC program, proven can get to the next level there, elite education, winning tradition.
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I agree....
At Vandy he'd be within driving distance for his parents to watch him play frequently; in addition to the academics, PT, and the Nashville night life it sounds like a good fit.
 
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johnnybravo said:
With everything you said, why not Vandy then? 2.5 hour drive, big time SEC program, proven can get to the next level there, elite education, winning tradition.

I agree, if Stokes goes first round this year, then 2 out of 3 years sending a one and done to the NBA really helps UT in recruiting the top players. That's why I think Stoke's development is such a key for our success.
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Because like in an above post, there's other factors, quality of program, relationship with coaches etc etc. Vandy will fall off big this year, and UT will be in a much better position to be succesful. Don't you think he would like to be able to walk in, play big minutes, and be a part of a team that has a great chance to be succesful? Plus representing his state, his fathers alma mater, and joining his sister and best friend(not his sister) in Knoxville.

Also, he has said he doesn't have as good a relationship with the Vandy staff as he does UT.

None of this means he goes to UT, I'm just detailing why I think, given everything he has said that UT makes the most sense.
 
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Kusotate said:
I agree....
At Vandy he'd be within driving distance for his parents to watch him play frequently; in addition to the academics, PT, and the Nashville night life it sounds like a good fit.
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Except the fact he wants to win.

And he has said he doesn't have as good a relationship with the Vandy staff as he does UT.
 
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I think it's Tennessee's to lose at this point. Vandy doesn't strike me as a serious contender. The only schools I'm worried about are Duke and maybe Memphis. I just think with his sister being here, Martin going at him hard, the early playing time we can offer, and the possibility of landing Hubbs, Tennessee has to be leading for this kid.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Because like in an above post, there's other factors, quality of program, relationship with coaches etc etc. Vandy will fall off big this year, and UT will be in a much better position to be succesful. Don't you think he would like to be able to walk in, play big minutes, and be a part of a team that has a great chance to be succesful? Plus representing his state, his fathers alma mater, and joining his sister and best friend(not his sister) in Knoxville.

Also, he has said he doesn't have as good a relationship with the Vandy staff as he does UT.

None of this means he goes to UT, I'm just detailing why I think, given everything he has said that UT makes the most sense.
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UT will be successful this year. Next year we will only be as successful as the top tallent that is recruited. The last 2 recruiting classes are not going to keep us at the top of the SEC IMO. Golden and McRae should be really good players by their Senior year, but other than that, I don't see great players. Good players yes, but not top of the league great players.

Vandy will be down this year, but they don't stay down long. It's not like they are going to hit rock bottom and stay there. They should be much better next year.
 
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Being that Nichols wants to win I'm sure he's evaluating the current/prospective talent each school is likely to have which favors Duke.
 
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Kusotate said:
But UT will be in a similar situation to Vandy if Nichols commits, no Maymon or Stokes.
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How? First off no guarantee stokes goes, definitely a better chance of him staying than going.

UT will be primed for a huge 2013 season if stokes returns, add in if UT lands Nichols friend Hubbs, and they have the talent to make a final four level run.

Same cant even be seriously said about Vandy.
 
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Kusotate said:
Being that Nichols wants to win I'm sure he's evaluating the current/prospective talent each school is likely to have which favors Duke.
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???

Have you looked at Dukes team? He is likely not to play if he goes there and has said playing time is important.
 
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johnnybravo said:
UT will be successful this year. Next year we will only be as successful as the top tallent that is recruited. The last 2 recruiting classes are not going to keep us at the top of the SEC IMO. Golden and McRae should be really good players by their Senior year, but other than that, I don't see great players. Good players yes, but not top of the league great players.

Vandy will be down this year, but they don't stay down long. It's not like they are going to hit rock bottom and stay there. They should be much better next year.
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If stokes returns UTs 2013 team could be special. Golden was top 3 SEC PG as a sophomore, how can you say he won't be great by senior season?

And Vandy hasn't done too much recruiting to suggest they're going to be near the level they have been the last couple years.
 
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johnnybravo said:
UT will be successful this year. Next year we will only be as successful as the top tallent that is recruited. The last 2 recruiting classes are not going to keep us at the top of the SEC IMO. Golden and McRae should be really good players by their Senior year, but other than that, I don't see great players. Good players yes, but not top of the league great players.

Vandy will be down this year, but they don't stay down long. It's not like they are going to hit rock bottom and stay there. They should be much better next year.
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Stallings will have Vandy back next year, no doubt about that. But this could be a HUGE year for us. I don't see NBA all-stars on our team but if we landed Nichols and Hubbs, our team next year would be A LOT more talented, with or without Stokes. If Stokes stayed, anything less than a final four would be disapointing.
 
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Kusotate said:
Being that Nichols wants to win I'm sure he's evaluating the current/prospective talent each school is likely to have which favors Duke.
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And when he's sees the amount of talent and prospective talent at PF, it makes his father say it could end up eliminating duke.

Thanks for making my point.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
???

Have you looked at Dukes team? He is likely not to play if he goes there and has said playing time is important.
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KuoState is trolling, I have a detailed rundown of the depth at F and he just acts as if he doesn't see it.

He wants Nichols at Memphis, and if he doesn't go there he wants him anywhere besides UT.
 
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Has Vandy even been a serious player in all of this? IMO, they get a mention and a look because of location. Maybe I'm wrong but JMO
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
How? First off no guarantee stokes goes, definitely a better chance of him staying than going.

UT will be primed for a huge 2013 season if stokes returns, add in if UT lands Nichols friend Hubbs, and they have the talent to make a final four level run.

Same cant even be seriously said about Vandy.
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That's a lot of "IFs" though, and even then a Final Four run in 2013 with that roster is unlikely.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
That's a lot of "IFs" though, and even then a Final Four run in 2013 with that roster is unlikely.
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Uhm what's a lot of ifs? If stokes stays, nt really a big if, like I said its a better chane of him staying than leaving.

And no, it's not that unlikely. Final four level, meaning that type, so elite 8 would qualify, basically just meaning a very good season and high seed.

A team of golden, hubbs, McRae, Nichols and stokes is definitely talented enough for that type of run. Especially with the quality backups they'd have.
 
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johnnybravo said:
With everything you said, why not Vandy then? 2.5 hour drive, big time SEC program, proven can get to the next level there, elite education, winning tradition.

I agree, if Stokes goes first round this year, then 2 out of 3 years sending a one and done to the NBA really helps UT in recruiting the top players. That's why I think Stoke's development is such a key for our success.
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Because of their underperforming, jackwad of a coach. They won't have a better chance than the last few years.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
If stokes returns UTs 2013 team could be special. Golden was top 3 SEC PG as a sophomore, how can you say he won't be great by senior season?

And Vandy hasn't done too much recruiting to suggest they're going to be near the level they have been the last couple years.
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I already said I expect Golden to be very good. I think if Stokes stays, then this coming year could be a disappointment. I fully expect if he's good enough to go first round by the end of the year, then he will go.

If Stokes is not here for his Soph/Junior year, then I don't see a final 4 team at all. Could be a bubble team at best depending on what recruiting class comes in.
 
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