2013 F Austin Nichols (Memphis Briarcrest)

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bleedingTNorange said:
There are confirmed reports wtf are you talking about? This isn't just people on VN opinions, it's rivals scout and espn opinions along with people that have spoken with his coaches.

You're the only person that thinks Duke and Florida are 1 and 2.

You seriously are clueless.
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No, I'm not. People that are in the know with Memphis kids know the real score, and they're not going off of some tweets the kid made for PR reasons after a visit.

These same sources called Adonis Thomas to Memphis over UT, Stokes to UT in November of last year and gave the details of the Cheivous-Stokes dust up.

A good track record as opposed to some yahoo on a message board who has made 5000 posts in 4 weeks.

As for Spartavol, he may actually have some insight into the situation, which you clearly don't. I'll actually listen to him as it seems he may know what he's talking about. As always though, you clearly don't.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
I don't follow the kid that closely. I keep up with him loosely because he's a Memphis kid and the Tigers have been recruiting him, but there are many other recruits I pay more attention to. I'm not sure about contradicting statements, I'm only passing along information that I've been told. When I'm giving my personal opinion, I'll make it known.
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The quote, "Kid is a HUMONGOUS Gator fan. He'll come swooning like a little school girl when Donovan comes calling," is so obviously chocked full of your opinion.

Your original statement about Cal not recruiting Tobias or Stokes was meant to stir the pot in here and you know it, and now you are trying to pass off your opinion of Nichols as fact, even after claiming to not follow the kid closely.

Spartavolicus claims to have spoken directly to his coach and there was no mention of Florida. Tennessee and Duke are the leaders. You can choose to believe him or not. Florida may still be in pursuit and may have at one time been his leader(s). You seem to operating under old information at best.
 
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I'm not giving my opinion once again you seem to be missing that. In going off Spart, scout, rivals and espn.

I'm also going off a family friend who has some ties with briarcrest and the Nichols family. They have stated since day 1 he really likes UT, but that if duke came calling it may be too much for UT to overcome.

His parents are both UT ALUM and are frequent visitors to Tennessee games. If you can link something from a credible source saying its between duke and florida I'll be more than happy to listen...
 
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cncchris33 said:
The quote, "Kid is a HUMONGOUS Gator fan. He'll come swooning like a little school girl when Donovan comes calling," is so obviously chocked full of your opinion.

That is obviously my opinion, and I don't see how that can be construed as fact.

Your original statement about Cal not recruiting Tobias or Stokes was meant to stir the pot in here and you know it, and now you are trying to pass off your opinion of Nichols as fact, even after claiming to not follow the kid closely.

How is it stirring the pot? Those statements were untrue and I called out whoever said it. I have no love-loss for Cal, but the fact that he was even recruiting Tobias is false and the fact that he made a strong push for Stokes is false. Get a UK fan in here, or anyone who follows cbball that isn't a Vols fan, and they'll confirm it.

Spartavolicus claims to have spoken directly to his coach and there was no mention of Florida. Tennessee and Duke are the leaders. You can choose to believe him or not. Florida may still be in pursuit and may have at one time been his leader(s). You seem to operating under old information at best.

This is a possibility, and I admitted that. I'm passing along the information that I have been given froma credible recruiting source that has had more inside info on Memphis kids than anyone. (No, it isn't Easterwood), and I'm simply putting it out there. If you, or any other poster doesn't agree, that's fine. I'm merely acting as a messenger.
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Some people can handle information that may show all facets of an issue and not just the ones that are orange-tinted. Guys like BleedingTNOrange obviously cannot, which is why he's been following me around the last few days.
 
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cncchris33 said:
The quote, "Kid is a HUMONGOUS Gator fan. He'll come swooning like a little school girl when Donovan comes calling," is so obviously chocked full of your opinion.

Your original statement about Cal not recruiting Tobias or Stokes was meant to stir the pot in here and you know it, and now you are trying to pass off your opinion of Nichols as fact, even after claiming to not follow the kid closely.

Spartavolicus claims to have spoken directly to his coach and there was no mention of Florida. Tennessee and Duke are the leaders. You can choose to believe him or not. Florida may still be in pursuit and may have at one time been his leader(s). You seem to operating under old information at best.
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Florida is in the mix, just wasn't in his top two a couple of weeks ago. I did get the text last night that Cal was at practice yesterday. Don't know the interest on either end, but Nichols is a 4 year player and a bright kid. Doubt he would fall for Cal's schtick.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Don't throw a smartass jab out there if you can't take a haymaker back.
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Haymaker = Gay joke?

Anyways, it seems you may actually have some insight into the Nichols' recruitment, which I can respect. It's more than can be said about Mr. 5000.

For my own edification, and without you revealing your sources too much, how are you connected with Briarcrest?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
Florida is in the mix, just wasn't in his top two a couple of weeks ago. I did get the text last night that Cal was at practice yesterday. Don't know the interest on either end, but Nichols is a 4 year player and a bright kid. Doubt he would fall for Cal's schtick.
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Got to agree with that.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Haymaker = Gay joke?

Anyways, it seems you may actually have some insight into the Nichols' recruitment, which I can respect. It's more than can be said about Mr. 5000.

For my own edification, and without you revealing your sources too much, how are you connected with Briarcrest?
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I was an assistant in Memphis for several years in the mid 90's and go back to help with clinics each year. Wanted to be a college coach, but bailed early on.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Why do I care if he's winning championships or not? His "formula" is doing pretty well this season, but if you have an issue with how he puts his teams together, take it up with him I guess. That's a completely different issue than the one we're discussing.

As for the posters on VolNation, a majority of you guys are good posters, and you don't seem to mind an opposing team's perspective on your basketball program or basketball in general. I don't come in here and blast Martin or the Vols, but I'm not going to pull my punches, especially when challenged simply on the fact that I'm a Memphis fan. I think I tell it like it is. The posters that get into arguments with me are the ones that can't seem to take the orange-colored glasses off and look at issues in an objective manner. Either that, or the one's I call out for simply making up information to garner attention or up a post count.
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Don't have a problem with his formula I think he's one of the top 5 coaches in basketball, but as such it is not out of the realm of possibility that he take a shot with a guy like stokes to bring a different skill set to an already loaded team. It cannot be argued that Kentucky has trouble with big bodied 4's and 5's, stokes would have given them an elite bruiser. I cannot prove that this was his mindset, but I do know that coach cal brought him in and recruited him. Your assumption is based on being a fan and reading message boards. It is okay to do that, but don't then take the information to a rival board and present it as factual because it is far from it. People don't dislike you because of your allegiance to Memphis, but the way you present information leaves much to be desired. A great example is ocivol, it's not about the info you bring it's the manner in which you bring it.
 
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UNC is in the running. I thought Leslie McDonalds struggles would be a factor, but having another Briarcrest alum up there is a plus. Evidently, Leslie loves it and is recruiting him hard.

UNC, Duke and UT right now.
 
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AlexHay13 said:
Don't have a problem with his formula I think he's one of the top 5 coaches in basketball, but as such it is not out of the realm of possibility that he take a shot with a guy like stokes to bring a different skill set to an already loaded team. It cannot be argued that Kentucky has trouble with big bodied 4's and 5's, stokes would have given them an elite bruiser. I cannot prove that this was his mindset, but I do know that coach cal brought him in and recruited him. Your assumption is based on being a fan and reading message boards. It is okay to do that, but don't then take the information to a rival board and present it as factual because it is far from it. People don't dislike you because of your allegiance to Memphis, but the way you present information leaves much to be desired. A great example is ocivol, it's not about the info you bring it's the manner in which you bring it.
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There's that phrase again. "Recruited him". If you send a letter to a kid or make a phone call, is that enough to be "recruiting him". If that's so, then Cal has "recruited" maybe a hundred players this season alone, and 50 schools probably recruited Stokes.

It's disengenuous to insenuate that Kentucky was going hard after Stokes, because they just weren't. I understand if fans want to believe that their coach got a recruiting victory over another coach, it feels good. But it simply didn't happen with Cal in this instance.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Haymaker = Gay joke?

Anyways, it seems you may actually have some insight into the Nichols' recruitment, which I can respect. It's more than can be said about Mr. 5000.

For my own edification, and without you revealing your sources too much, how are you connected with Briarcrest?
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Funny I haven't posted in the last 10 posts or so, yet you keep mentioning my name. But I'm the one that needs to let it go and follows you around? Sorry BRUH, but I don't swing that way so you can quit trying to get my attention.

Quit bringing up my name and quit spewing false information and you'll never hear from me again.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
UNC is in the running. I thought Leslie McDonalds struggles would be a factor, but having another Briarcrest alum up there is a plus. Evidently, Leslie loves it and is recruiting him hard.

UNC, Duke and UT right now.
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That's teh second time lately that I've heard someone refer to Leslie as "struggling" at UNC. Isn't he just hurt this season? He was a solid contributor his sophomore season, although he took a backseat to Barnes and competed with Bullock and Strickland.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
UNC is in the running. I thought Leslie McDonalds struggles would be a factor, but having another Briarcrest alum up there is a plus. Evidently, Leslie loves it and is recruiting him hard.

UNC, Duke and UT right now.
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Wow!!

That'd be impressive for Martin to pull a Memphis kid, and beat out coach K and Williams for him.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Funny I haven't posted in the last 10 posts or so, yet you keep mentioning my name. But I'm the one that needs to let it go and follows you around? Sorry BRUH, but I don't swing that way so you can quit trying to get my attention.

Quit bringing up my name and quit spewing false information and you'll never hear from me again.
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Please stop addressing me, dude. Unless it's admitting you were way off base in our discussions of bubble teams a while ago, we've got nothing more to discuss.

Again, there are better ways to pad that post count than to keep squawking at me.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
That's teh second time lately that I've heard someone refer to Leslie as "struggling" at UNC. Isn't he just hurt this season? He was a solid contributor his sophomore season, although he took a backseat to Barnes and competed with Bullock and Strickland.
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He was a McD's AA and averaged 13 minutes and 5 points/game through his first 2 years. Call it what you like. Tatum thinks those numbers suck.

He is out with an ACL this year.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Please stop addressing me, dude. Unless it's admitting you were way off base in our discussions of bubble teams a while ago, we've got nothing more to discuss.

Again, there are better ways to pad that post count than to keep squawking at me.
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Same for you, unless of course you wanna admit you were dead wrong saying UCONN is a 9. Then bashing me when I said they're 1 loss away from being back out of the tournament because they're actually a 11.

Of course you ridiculed me for this and said it was ridiculous.

Or I'll settle for you admitting that I called another c USA loss for cal and you said they'd win out, and that they CLEARLY ARE IMPROVING! Hahaha that's comical
 
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MemphisCanes said:
There's that phrase again. "Recruited him". If you send a letter to a kid or make a phone call, is that enough to be "recruiting him". If that's so, then Cal has "recruited" maybe a hundred players this season alone, and 50 schools probably recruited Stokes.

It's disengenuous to insenuate that Kentucky was going hard after Stokes, because they just weren't. I understand if fans want to believe that their coach got a recruiting victory over another coach, it feels good. But it simply didn't happen with Cal in this instance.
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"because they just weren't" There are those stone cold facts again hahaha....... My entire point has been that you pass opinion off as fact, and you continue to reinforce it with quotes like this.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
He was a McD's AA and averaged 13 minutes and 5 points/game through his first 2 years. Call it what you like. Tatum thinks those numbers suck.

He is out with an ACL this year.
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Tatum has better numbers than that because he's a go to option for a down Vols' team this season.

McDonald's numbers weren't great because he was 6th or 7th man on an Elite 8 team stocked with like 8 other McD AA's.
 
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AlexHay13 said:
"because they just weren't" There are those stone cold facts again hahaha....... My entire point has been that you pass opinion off as fact, and you continue to reinforce it with quotes like this.
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Look, you can accept it or reject it, but if you followed the Stokes' saga, several coaches had a good idea by November where Stokes was going and why. Cal was one of those coaches.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Look, you can accept it or reject it, but if you followed the Stokes' saga, several coaches had a good idea by November where Stokes was going and why. Cal was one of those coaches.
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Enter Memphiselite: don't need facts I'm a fan who follows message boards.
 
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