2013 Schedule

#51
#51
VolMaster14 said:
I'm with ya. I've been king of the sunshine pumpers to long. I'm pumpin the breaks now.
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Get excited man, it's more fun that way. Honestly, I just don't care as much anymore. I wish I did. Just got other things going on now. On gameday, I always think we have a chance. It's supposed to be fun so do your own thing and screw everybody else.
 
#52
#52
sjt18 said:
8-4.... UT has the right coach

6-6.... Hart needs to work on a list to replace Jones as early as after the '14 season but no later than the '15 season.

UT has 17 or more Sr's in the two deep plus 2 or 3 JR's who could leave early. I am not blaming Jones or faulting his efforts but the '13 recruiting class does little to plug all of those holes. As thin as LB is this year, it will likely be much worse in '14. All 5 starters may be gone from the OL.

What I am saying is that if Jones' coaching ability only gets UT to 6-6 this year then it will be worse in '14. That could get him canned by itself... or it could just mean that he would need a miracle and coaching lessons to have a chance to save himself in '15.... with a still young team.

IMO, he MUST prove he can coach THIS year by beating someone he should not beat.
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I was not a fan of the hiring, but this is crazy. 6-6 with likely a freshman or RS freshman QB, FLA, ALA, Oregon on the schedule, no SEC caliber RB, and a returning defense that was one of the worst in SEC history.

Sounds fair. :lolabove:

6-6 is probably what we should expect, and anything better should be praised.

If he can create some positive energy by going, say 8-5 with a bowl win, he'll go a long way towards giving recruits more to think about next NSD.
 
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#53
#53
sjt18 said:
Oh... he also has to beat the 6 we think he should beat.

I agree that 6-6 may be "realistic" but "realistic" won't save him. He has to do something better than "realistic".
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Shouldn't we let CBJ coach an Orange and White game, before we talk about him needing to save his job?
 
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#55
#55
ETNVol said:
I was not a fan of the hiring, but this is crazy. 6-6 with likely a freshman or RS freshman QB, FLA, ALA, Oregon on the schedule, no SEC caliber RB, and a returning defense that was one of the worst in SEC history.

Sounds fair. :lolabove:

6-6 is probably what we should expect, and anything better should be praised.

If he can create some positive energy by going, say 8-5 with a bowl win, he'll go a long way towards giving recruits more to think about next NSD.
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It isnt fair...but what sjt said was right.
 
#57
#57
FBtime said:
Austin Peay - W
West Ky - W
@Oregon - L
@UF - L
South Bama - W
UGA - L
Bye
SC - L*
@Bama - L
@Missouri - W
Auburn - W
Bye
Vandy - W
@Kentucky - W

With a week off before the game and it being at home I could see us beating SC. If not through I think we will be 7-5.
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Like all your pics except Oregon. Call me crazy :crazy: but I think we will be better prepared for this one game then probably any other and we will win.
 
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#59
#59
sjt18 said:
8-4.... UT has the right coach

6-6.... Hart needs to work on a list to replace Jones as early as after the '14 season but no later than the '15 season.

UT has 17 or more Sr's in the two deep plus 2 or 3 JR's who could leave early. I am not blaming Jones or faulting his efforts but the '13 recruiting class does little to plug all of those holes. As thin as LB is this year, it will likely be much worse in '14. All 5 starters may be gone from the OL.

What I am saying is that if Jones' coaching ability only gets UT to 6-6 this year then it will be worse in '14. That could get him canned by itself... or it could just mean that he would need a miracle and coaching lessons to have a chance to save himself in '15.... with a still young team.

IMO, he MUST prove he can coach THIS year by beating someone he should not beat.
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No way we start down the replacement road if we go 6-6 next year. CBJ will at least get 3 years. And he can prove he can coach by being more competitive and prepared.
 
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#61
brad37128 said:
I like the way the schedule is setup next year. After two pre-season scrimmages, Oregon is a great test to see where the Vols are before hitting the swamp. Then, another prep game before the GA and USC games, which I think we will win one of those at home. In addition, there is a bye week after the GA game.

I think 7-5 should be expected!! Go Vols :eek:lol:
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So are you laughing at your own post?
 
#62
#62
6-6 at best, hopefully no worse than 5-7. Anyone predicting 7-5 or better is being a little unrealistic.
 
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#63
#63
Love the optimism but I think reality is 5-7. We lose all that offensive firepower and can anyone honestly know what to expect on defense? I like the potential in our WR corps but it, along with the qb, is unproven. Oregon, UF, UGA, Bama, USCe are losses. I can't say I know enough about Vandy and Missouri to definitely count them as wins - who knows what Malzahn's going to do at Auburn.

Do I hope for better? Hell, yeah! And that would be 7-5.
 
#64
#64
sjt18 said:
8-4.... UT has the right coach

6-6.... Hart needs to work on a list to replace Jones as early as after the '14 season but no later than the '15 season.

UT has 17 or more Sr's in the two deep plus 2 or 3 JR's who could leave early. I am not blaming Jones or faulting his efforts but the '13 recruiting class does little to plug all of those holes. As thin as LB is this year, it will likely be much worse in '14. All 5 starters may be gone from the OL.

What I am saying is that if Jones' coaching ability only gets UT to 6-6 this year then it will be worse in '14. That could get him canned by itself... or it could just mean that he would need a miracle and coaching lessons to have a chance to save himself in '15.... with a still young team.

IMO, he MUST prove he can coach THIS year by beating someone he should not beat.
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Alrighty then!:loco::crazy::loco:
 
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#65
#65
VOLAGAIN said:
That line of thinking is the problem with this place.....year 1 you need to have a better record than the guy before you was in year 3.....having basically the players.....I say they need complete better....show improvement in performance and a 6-6 record for year 1 will not get him fired...which is just stupid to say....canned after 1 year...with an even record..just stupid.
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Idiotic? Three years ago while people were loving on Dooley I predicted he would need to prove himself by year 3 or he'd be gone. Some thought that was "idiotic" too because of the condition of the program when he arrived.

You do have to have a better record but not for just one year. IF Jones can't take the roster that he inherits with experience in many key positions then he is VERY unlikely to follow that up with better records in year 2 or 3 with a MUCH younger team.


Speaking of "idiotic"... I didn't say he should be canned after one year. I said that Hart better update his list if he doesn't show he can coach this year. Here's why:

Year 1- 6-6 with an experienced team and one of the best OL's in the country.

Year 2- worse record with youth everywhere.

Year 3- Negavols and the media on the warpath declaring the Jones experiment a failure and demanding that he have a better record than year one with a roster that is NOT likely to be better or more experienced.

Conversely...

Year 1- 8 wins and the recruiting credibilty that brings

Year 2- 6-8 wins as young guys get experience with LOTS of talented Freshmen playing

Year 3- 9-11 wins and the house righted.


ANY coach UT hires is going to have to outcoach whoever is coaching at Bama, UGA, UF, LSU, et al. Those states are going to have more instate talent for the foreseeable future. If you want players to leave those states for K'ville... then the perception has to be that UT has an elite coach.
 
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#66
#66
KingtUT said:
Alrighty then!:loco::crazy::loco:
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Wait and see... or if you are really interested in making an informed reply... check the roster after this year. His next two rosters are likely to be weaker.

So if he cannot win with the '13 roster... what makes you think he can win enough with the next two to keep the job?
 
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#68
brad37128 said:
I like the way the schedule is setup next year. After two pre-season scrimmages, Oregon is a great test to see where the Vols are before hitting the swamp. Then, another prep game before the GA and USC games, which I think we will win one of those at home. In addition, there is a bye week after the GA game.

I think 7-5 should be expected!! Go Vols :eek:lol:
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To me the first test game is Petrino. He'll have them playing way over there level. CBJ will not over look this one for sure.
 
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#69
SlipKidVol said:
No way we start down the replacement road if we go 6-6 next year. CBJ will at least get 3 years. And he can prove he can coach by being more competitive and prepared.
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Got to disagree since the VOLS are forcast to have another losing season with Jones and this team. If he can squeeze out 6-6 and a bowl win he's gold. To me 8-4 is a pipe dream but nothing is impossible.
 
#71
#71
Ericvol2096 said:
Austin Peay - W
West Ky - W
@Oregon - L
@UF - L
South Bama - W
UGA - W
Bye
SC - L
@Bama - L
@Missouri - W
Auburn - L
Bye
Vandy - W
@Kentucky - W
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No way they beat UGA but not Auburn. Although I understand the "upset and be upset" idea.
 
#72
#72
Austin Peay - W
West Ky - W
@Oregon - L
@UF - W
South Bama - W
UGA - W
Bye
SC - W
@Bama - L
@Missouri - W
Auburn - W
Bye
Vandy - W
@Kentucky - W

10 WINS BOOM!

Jk Heres my non-sunshine pumper response

Austin Peay - W
West Ky - W
@Oregon - L
@UF - L
South Bama - W
UGA - L
Bye
SC - L
@Bama - L
@Missouri - W
Auburn - W
Bye
Vandy - W
@Kentucky - W

Finish off nicely after a rough middle of the season, as usual. 7-5 and a bowl game. without the opponent, I cant call that either way
 
#75
#75
Is this where we post that the next guy should be fired, too? I mean, if we can fire Butch three years from now without having played a single game under him.....
 
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