2020 Presidential Race

[FLVOL_79]

So you made it up and have no actual support for it.

Thank you that is all I was asking.

Ha. Your pseudo lawyer double speak doesnt work here. Nice try though. Like I said, heal up.

 

[hog88]

Hah. Wrong. Its 100% FACT. Again, Math is the enemy of the left.

Are there more Whites below the poverty line that blacks in those states? No. Not really. Lets take Mississippi. Mississippi is the poorest state in the Union if we ignore Puerto Rico (which we should).
3,000,000 people. 59% White. 38% White. All other races under 1% so lets ignore them.
1,770,000 Whites. 1,140,000 Blacks.
Poverty rate:
Blacks 31.3% -353,4000
Whites 12.1% - 214,170
Mississippi Population 2020 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)
Mississippi Report - 2018 - Talk Poverty

The poverty rates don't change too much state to state when they are saturated in diversity. In the end there is around 17 million Whites below poverty nation wide. Blacks and hispanics are lower number wise but higher per capita but when combined outnumber Whites. If you adjust those numbers for the way most races vote politically, well, you're going to find that democrats are more poor. They are also less educated. Hate to blow up the myths you've been believing from facebook and CNN.

Just kidding, I'm not.

Ratios and percentages are only allowed when its in their favor. This isn’t your first rodeo.

Now you‘re a racist.

 

[FLVOL_79]

That isn’t relevant to his original post or his new fabrication.

First he was saying democrats are poor and can’t pay the bills and that the white folks who vote republican in those poor states aren’t poor. How is this supported by relative per capita poverty levels? It’s not.

Now, he claims he was explaining why those states are poor (lol). But even he admits per capita measures don’t have any relevance to that.

You guys can’t even keep your own ******** straight.

Democrats are poor and cant pay their Bill's. That's why they cry about debt forgiveness. It's literally one of your parties main stances. Oh yeah, miniumin wage increase as well....oops

 

[FLVOL_79]

... and isn't it also correct, that Donald Trump's largest constituency of voters are white men, over 40 and without a college degree? I'm pretty sure that is true. I've read that in several different places.

Really? Link with peer reviewed scientific data?

 

[hog88]

I do. The inadequacy of the systems of public education within those states, combined with their lack of appeal to industry and commerce. It has nothing to do with race.

Where is almost ALL industry relocating to? The south!

 

[RockyTop85]

I was defending the math of his post.

Then, by all means, explain how how per capita measures of poverty support either one of his points.

 

[FLVOL_79]

There’s only one person here making fun of those people, and you’re defending him.

I'm making fun of you..

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ratios and percentages are only allowed when its in their favor. This isn’t your first rodeo.

Now you‘re a racist.

Racism!

Good thing I didnt mention Asians being smarter and more wealthy than Whites!

But that's math backed statistics...so maybe according to left wingers its wrong.

 

[NEO]

You think 70 people argue in court all at once?

Sounds fun, but no.

What can a lawyer legally bill for and what cannot they legally not bill for?

Specifics here....

Dont be vague.

 

[RockyTop85]

Ha. Your pseudo lawyer double speak doesnt work here. Nice try though. Like I said, heal up.

“I’d wager a nickel” isn’t proof of anything. It’s an admission that you don’t have anything concrete that supports whatever it is you claim to be arguing.

If you had anything, you’d have posted it by now instead of floundering around trying to reframe things as per capita basis even though you admit it isn’t relevant.

That’s not “double speak” that’s you having had a chance and “I’d wager a nickel” being the best you can come up with.

@hog88 said the quiet part out loud. You were hoping that making it a black vs. white thing would get you called a racist and you could do that whole song and dance without actually addressing the colossal stupidity of what you said. Unfortunately, it was too stupid for that to work. Better luck next time.

 

[NEO]

Racism!

Good thing I didnt mention Asians being smarter and more wealthy than Whites!

But that's math backed statistics...so maybe according to left wingers its wrong.

Yes but they have very small weenies so it's ok.

 

[hog88]

“I’d wager a nickel” isn’t proof of anything. It’s an admission that you don’t have anything concrete that supports whatever it is you claim to be arguing.

If you had anything, you’d have posted it by now instead of floundering around trying to reframe things as per capita basis even though you admit it isn’t relevant.

That’s not “double speak” that’s you having had a chance and “I’d wager a nickel” being the best you can come up with.

@hog88 said the quiet part out loud. You were hoping that making it a black vs. white thing would get you called a racist and you could do that whole song and dance without actually addressing the colossal stupidity of what you said. Unfortunately, it was too stupid for that to work. Better luck next time.

Actually he did a damn good job of making you look stupider than you normally do. Spanked your ass he did.

 

[RockyTop85]

Actually he did a damn good job of making you look stupider than you normally do. Spanked your ass he did.

Lol. If I had needed any reassurance I was right, this post would have done it.

 

[hog88]

Lol. If I had needed any reassurance I was right, this post would have done it.

 

[1972 Grad]

Then, by all means, explain how how per capita measures of poverty support either one of his points.

I didn't read back far enough to see what his main points were, only that he stated something that made you white guilt sufferers feel uncomfortable, and I didn't see anything blatantly untrue in the few posts that I read. His math seemed to back up what I read.

 

[FLVOL_79]

“I’d wager a nickel” isn’t proof of anything. It’s an admission that you don’t have anything concrete that supports whatever it is you claim to be arguing.

If you had anything, you’d have posted it by now instead of floundering around trying to reframe things as per capita basis even though you admit it isn’t relevant.

That’s not “double speak” that’s you having had a chance and “I’d wager a nickel” being the best you can come up with.

@hog88 said the quiet part out loud. You were hoping that making it a black vs. white thing would get you called a racist and you could do that whole song and dance without actually addressing the colossal stupidity of what you said. Unfortunately, it was too stupid for that to work. Better luck next time.

Keep spinning your wheels.

No matter how many times you attempt to reframe my post you're still going to be wrong. I think this is the part where you are metaphorically disbarred.

 

[RockyTop85]

What can a lawyer legally bill for and what cannot they legally not bill for?

Specifics here....

Dont be vague.

Do you want to know what the rule says, or are you implying I bill people for being on here if I’m waiting in court? I don’t.

Rule 8: Rules of Professional Conduct. | Tennessee Administrative Office of the Courts

 

[RockyTop85]

I didn't read back far enough to see what his main points were, only that he stated something that made you white guilt sufferers feel uncomfortable, and I didn't see anything blatantly untrue in the few posts that I read. His math seemed to back up what I read.

What math did he do and what did it back up?

 

[RockyTop85]

Keep spinning your wheels.

No matter how many times you attempt to reframe my post you're still going to be wrong. I think this is the part where you are metaphorically disbarred.

Still waiting on that link.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I didn't read back far enough to see what his main points were, only that he stated something that made you white guilt sufferers feel uncomfortable, and I didn't see anything blatantly untrue in the few posts that I read. His math seemed to back up what I read.

All I said was the poor states bowlbrother mentioned were actually quite racially diverse which led to the high levels of poverty compared to less diverse states. This started because I called Democrats poor as f### who cant pay their damn bill's which is supported by party platforms like minimum wage increases and debt fortiveness.

The "lawyer" is desperately trying to spin it into something else. He/she would probably be really good at getting crackhead to admit to crimes.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Still waiting on that link.

I've given you enough links to almost hang yourself. I can't be responsible for any more of your actions..out of the kindness of my heart.

 

[RockyTop85]

I've given you enough links to almost hang yourself. I can't be responsible for any more of your actions..out of the kindness of my heart.

None of them were relevant. If anything showed the opposite of what you were saying.

The first time or after you tried to change it to something else.

 

[1972 Grad]

What math did he do and what did it back up?

#30,957, 959, and 975.

 

[FLVOL_79]

None of them were relevant. If anything showed the opposite of what you were saying.

The first time or after you tried to change it to something else.

Good thing this isnt a bulletin board where you left your card..

 

[RockyTop85]

Make what up? There are multiple statements in my post. I said USE YOUR WORDS. Census.gov backs up every statement I mentioned though.

Here is more evidence for you:
1. Trends in party affiliation among demographic groups

Please please tell me I don't have to do the 8th grade level math for you like I do for Luther every few months.

List of U.S. states and territories by African-American population - Wikipedia

Hah. Wrong. Its 100% FACT. Again, Math is the enemy of the left.

Are there more Whites below the poverty line that blacks in those states? No. Not really. Lets take Mississippi. Mississippi is the poorest state in the Union if we ignore Puerto Rico (which we should).
3,000,000 people. 59% White. 38% White. All other races under 1% so lets ignore them.
1,770,000 Whites. 1,140,000 Blacks.
Poverty rate:
Blacks 31.3% -353,4000
Whites 12.1% - 214,170
Mississippi Population 2020 (Demographics, Maps, Graphs)
Mississippi Report - 2018 - Talk Poverty

The poverty rates don't change too much state to state when they are saturated in diversity. In the end there is around 17 million Whites below poverty nation wide. Blacks and hispanics are lower number wise but higher per capita but when combined outnumber Whites. If you adjust those numbers for the way most races vote politically, well, you're going to find that democrats are more poor. They are also less educated. Hate to blow up the myths you've been believing from facebook and CNN.

Just kidding, I'm not.

#30,957, 959, and 975.

Ok. Which point do you think is well supported by that math?

Or you were just saying they were true statements?

I mean depending on when you joined, he was saying either
a. [pejoratively] Democrats are poor and the poorest of the poor in the poorest states aren’t the white people who vote republican.
b. “Why those states are poor” (I’m not even sure where he got this other than trying to bail out of his other argument, tbh)

What is supported is:
There are poor black people in those states.
Black people mostly vote democrat.

That doesn’t support the broad generalization. Maybe a majority of poor people vote democrat? I’m not sure that’s even been established.

I mean if I had realized he was just saying “some poor people vote democrat” I wouldn’t have been nearly as interested.

Or maybe you thought cherry picking the state with the highest (Or second highest) population of poor black people relative to whites and extrapolating it across the entire US was persuasive? I’m trying to see your side of this...