2020 Presidential Race

[clarksvol00]

Liberals are a classy bunch......
Hashtag #wrongtrump trends on Twitter after death of president's brother

Lack of class isn't a party or ideological issue. The tone of public discourse from everyone from elected officials to internet commenters makes us all seem petty.

 

[MontyPython]

Trump: 'There's fraud, there's theft'

Besides trying to skew the election ahead of time by limiting mail-in balloting, Trump may also be renewing his baseless claims because he's looking ahead to after the election.
He warned on Saturday that mail-in ballots could delay the result of the election for "months or for years."

"These ballots are all going to be lost. They're going to be gone ... the ballots are lost. There's fraud. There's theft. It's happening all over the place."

To summarize:

(1) Trump is in charge of the USPS;
(2) Trump says the USPS is currently committing fraud and theft;
(3) Hence, the USPS is failing;
(4) Ergo, Trump is failing.

What am I missing here? Nothing. Just another demonstration of Trump's failure and incompetence. Thanks for pointing this out, Donald.

 

[MG1968]

Trump: 'There's fraud, there's theft'

Besides trying to skew the election ahead of time by limiting mail-in balloting, Trump may also be renewing his baseless claims because he's looking ahead to after the election.
He warned on Saturday that mail-in ballots could delay the result of the election for "months or for years."

"These ballots are all going to be lost. They're going to be gone ... the ballots are lost. There's fraud. There's theft. It's happening all over the place."

To summarize:

(1) Trump is in charge of the USPS;
(2) Trump says the USPS is currently committing fraud and theft;
(3) Hence, the USPS is failing;
(4) Ergo, Trump is failing.

What am I missing here?

Trump is in charge of the USPS?

 

[MontyPython]

Trump is in charge of the USPS?

Is the USPS a federal agency? Is Trump the Chief Executive over all federal agencies?

Yep.

 

[Mick]

Well well

CNN Poll: Biden and Trump matchup tightens as enthusiasm hits new high - CNNPolitics

So Republican do respond to polls.

 

[VolnJC]

I have to admit I'm enjoying watching some of the same Twitter folk talking about how inspiring and how great a leader Biden is when they were calling him names just a few months ago...I'll stand by my claim that the only ideology of the left is more power

 

[tennvols77]

I have to admit I'm enjoying watching some of the same Twitter folk talking about how inspiring and how great a leader Biden is when they were calling him names just a few months ago...I'll stand by my claim that the only ideology of the left is more power

Not much better from the right though......we need to get away from both and come into the middle somehow, if even probable anymore.......less federal, more state and local governance.

 

[VolnJC]

Not much better from the right though......we need to get away from both and come into the middle somehow, if even probable anymore.......less federal, more state and local governance.

I've conceded that Biden will probably win...my hope is that it fractures the Dem party and the progressives form their own one...I honestly think this is in the works with AOC anyway...I'd like to see 4-5 different parties and instead of us voting for POTUS majority leader assumes role...think we would get better leaders of it didn't come down to having to raise millions to run

 

[tvolsfan]

I have to admit I'm enjoying watching some of the same Twitter folk talking about how inspiring and how great a leader Biden is when they were calling him names just a few months ago...

You just described the primary process.

I'll stand by my claim that the only ideology of the left is more power

You just described the right.

 

[RockyTop85]

You know , it’s kinda cute when one liberal try’s to comfort another liberal by reassuring him of “their “ liberal belief system . Luther didn’t forget anything , it was just a dig. You are both about to vote on a 77 year old , white , multimillionaire political lifer , that you can go back through his public records and find where he runs against what your party is running toward full steam . Hell the entirety of the lefts party is running away from law and it’s enforcement , incarcerations, drug crime, border security , stopping illegal aliens from collecting benefits , sniffing women , making overt sexist , cultural and racist statements so that we can lift up these people up . You guys not only trot out ole uncle Joe , you back it up with Kamala and her prosecutorial issues , her recorded interview where she was smoking weed in some time warp , lynching law, ( which just coincidentally happen to fall into the famous Jussie Smollett time frame ) her reparations push and last but certainly not least for their “piece de resistance “ where they all got their collective three brain cells together and came up with the brilliant idea of wrapping a Kente- cloth around their necks and kneeling to support BLM.

-Nobody is forgetting about the win at all cost “ principle” , it’s the very reason why Luthers Continuum is bullfeathers .. it’s pure subjective reasoning .

Not my party.
Stopped reading after that, tbh.

 

[tvolsfan]

I've conceded that Biden will probably win...my hope is that it fractures the Dem party and the progressives form their own one...I honestly think this is in the works with AOC anyway...I'd like to see 4-5 different parties and instead of us voting for POTUS majority leader assumes role...think we would get better leaders of it didn't come down to having to raise millions to run

That sounds a lot like a parliamentary system. It’s not really what I want, but I want to see more diverse parties and less of huge, long, expensive campaigns.

 

[Orangeburst]

Not much better from the right though......we need to get away from both and come into the middle somehow, if even probable anymore.......less federal, more state and local governance.

We cannot even agree on what constitutes the middle. Just by advocating less fed governance the compromise is destroyed. Frankly, other than the border wall and tarrifs, i fail to see what Trump has done that is considered extreme.

 

[hog88]

42 of my Jewish cousins who have never voted for a Republican before are voting Trump. They are on my ass to be the 43.
I will continue my position as a write in protest as I’ve done since they gave us GW vs Al Gore.

But let that sink in. 42 mostly NY Jews voting Trump. This could be a landslide Trump victory with the leftist once again going “why were the poles so wrong ?”


It’s going to be interesting for sure.

The guys my wife works with are Queens Orthodox Jews and they will be voting Trump.

 

[RockyTop85]

There are some similarities and some differences in the data. It is an eternity before election day but Biden is in a far better position than Clinton. Clinton's low support should have been a warning.

I think Trump has a job approval much lower that anyone who has recently won a second term. Biden is at 51.2 right now but the two weeks post VP pick and party convention can inflate the numbers.

The similarity is that Trump still has an Electoral College edge as we are near a tipping point. Democrats will have an edge of equal or greater value a few cycles from now. I expect a full flip flop from both parties on the importance of the EC at that point.

For this election, Trump could lose the popular vote by 3 to 6 million votes and still get reelected.

Watch Pennsylvania on election night to see what is actually happening. If it is close there, then it is a likely close everywhere.

Florida is a bit of a wild card too, and very important obviously. Trump's approval among seniors there will have to be shored up.

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Do you think Pennsylvania’s election night results will tell enough of the story with the supposed increase in early and mail-in balloting?

I’m not even planning to pay attention to the election results until November 10, at this point.

 

[hog88]

Who do you think it is?

Probably Amash.

 

[hog88]

Is the USPS a federal agency? Is Trump the Chief Executive over all federal agencies?

Yep.

No

 

[VolnJC]

Rex Chapman might be the first person in the world to die of TDS..he is completely unhinged...these mailboxes have been like this since 2016

 

[hog88]

Rex Chapman might be the first person in the world to die of TDS..he is completely unhinged...these mailboxes have been like this since 2016

I have seen locked mailboxes at a post office. I have also seen them close the window for the day at closing time while people were in line.

 

[Orangeburst]

I have seen locked mailboxes at a post office. I have also seen them close the window for the day at closing time while people were in line.

I am sure that got some remarks

 

[hog88]

I am sure that got some remarks

They cared about as much as I do about LGs opinions.

 

[0nelilreb]

Not my party.
Stopped reading after that, tbh.

I hear that a lot .. “ not my party “ meh . Don’t feel bad about the other though . I consider it a great accomplishment of pure will power , if I make it past the first three pretentious sentences in your normal tautological and verbose explanations.
- and yes , I used you for my word of the day .

 

[RockyTop85]

I hear that a lot .. “ not my party “ meh . Don’t feel bad about the other though . I consider it a great accomplishment of pure will power , if I make it past the first three pretentious sentences in your normal tautological and verbose explanations.
- and yes , I used you for my word of the day .

I had to look it up.

 

[Rifleman]

Do you think Pennsylvania’s election night results will tell enough of the story with the supposed increase in early and mail-in balloting?

I’m not even planning to pay attention to the election results until November 10, at this point.

I believe so, as there will be a ton of ballots already returned from every precinct that should be counted on election day. As long as the bodies are there to do the work, it should be more than enough to get a good statistical sense of how the state stands.

A few possibilities in PA:

Called for Biden on election night: Biden is winning comfortably, perhaps in a blowout.

Not called, too early to call characterization: Biden is winning but it is a tight election. In that case, what is happening in Florida?

Not called, too close to call characterization: then we just have to wait, but this is what a Trump win would look like and not necessarily just a lack of sufficient vote count.

 

[MG1968]

Is the USPS a federal agency? Is Trump the Chief Executive over all federal agencies?

Yep.

The FAA is too. I guess we can thank Trump every time an airplane lands safely.

 

[Y9 Vol]

42 of my Jewish cousins who have never voted for a Republican before are voting Trump. They are on my ass to be the 43.
I will continue my position as a write in protest as I’ve done since they gave us GW vs Al Gore.

But let that sink in. 42 mostly NY Jews voting Trump. This could be a landslide Trump victory with the leftist once again going “why were the poles so wrong ?”


It’s going to be interesting for sure.