2020 Presidential Race

The other options outside of Cruz were way worse. I voted for Cruz in the primary but once he was out I was for Trump.

Jeb sucks.

I still want Cruz as president but it's never happening.
I have a feeling you would have voted for any of them, it just happen to come down to Trump. I would much rather have any of the others.
 
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42 of my Jewish cousins who have never voted for a Republican before are voting Trump. They are on my ass to be the 43.
I will continue my position as a write in protest as I’ve done since they gave us GW vs Al Gore.

But let that sink in. 42 mostly NY Jews voting Trump. This could be a landslide Trump victory with the leftist once again going “why were the poles so wrong ?”


It’s going to be interesting for sure.
Speaking of cousins, my daughter texted me a couple of days ago saying "here is the list of cousins who have come out for Biden since he picked Harris", she then listed pretty much every one of her cousins and their spouse. A few on the list voted for Trump in 2016.
 
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I have a feeling you would have voted for any of them, it just happen to come down to Trump. I would much rather have any of the others.


Would not have voted for Jeb or Kasich sp? as I view Hillary as a better option. I would have not voted period.

Would have voted for Rubio but barely.

I will always be honest with my stance. You dont gotta guess with me.
 
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But do you trust the numbers? This is not meant to start an argument, it just looks awfully similar to last time and I'm trying to figure out whether Trump is done or if it's deja vu.

There are some similarities and some differences in the data. It is an eternity before election day but Biden is in a far better position than Clinton. Clinton's low support should have been a warning.

I think Trump has a job approval much lower that anyone who has recently won a second term. Biden is at 51.2 right now but the two weeks post VP pick and party convention can inflate the numbers.

The similarity is that Trump still has an Electoral College edge as we are near a tipping point. Democrats will have an edge of equal or greater value a few cycles from now. I expect a full flip flop from both parties on the importance of the EC at that point.

For this election, Trump could lose the popular vote by 3 to 6 million votes and still get reelected.

Watch Pennsylvania on election night to see what is actually happening. If it is close there, then it is a likely close everywhere.

Florida is a bit of a wild card too, and very important obviously. Trump's approval among seniors there will have to be shored up.

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Speaking of cousins, my daughter texted me a couple of days ago saying "here is the list of cousins who have come out for Biden since he picked Harris", she then listed pretty much every one of her cousins and their spouse. A few on the list voted for Trump in 2016.
Lol
Nobody you know voted for Trump.
LALX2
 
Lol
Nobody you know voted for Trump.
LALX2
I wish that were true.
I live and work in a very red area.
I have a few family members who actually voted for Trump. Some are switching over.
I know of two family members who could vote for neither Trump nor Clinton but both say they can support Biden.
 
I wish that were true.
I live and work in a very red area.
I have a few family members who actually voted for Trump. Some are switching over.
I know of two family members who could vote for neither Trump nor Clinton but both say they can support Biden.
Most of us on Volnation either live in east Tennessee or have lived in east Tennessee in the past. It's really not possible for any of us not to know some Trump voters. I don't know anyone who defends his behavior, but I know several who defend his policies, including my dad.
 
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There are some similarities and some differences in the data. It is an eternity before election day but Biden is in a far better position than Clinton. Clinton's low support should have been a warning.

I think Trump has a job approval much lower that anyone who has recently won a second term. Biden is at 51.2 right now but the two weeks post VP pick and party convention can inflate the numbers.

The similarity is that Trump still has an Electoral College edge as we are near a tipping point. Democrats will have an edge of equal or greater value a few cycles from now. I expect a full flip flop from both parties on the importance of the EC at that point.

For this election, Trump could lose the popular vote by 3 to 6 million votes and still get reelected.

Watch Pennsylvania on election night to see what is actually happening. If it is close there, then it is a likely close everywhere.

Florida is a bit of a wild card too, and very important obviously. Trump's approval among seniors there will have to be shored up.

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But I keep getting told that the polls are tightening.
 

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