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Yep. You're clearly uneducated and wholly ignorant.

Is it legal to cross the U.S. border to seek asylum?
March 1, 2019
Last updated October 22, 2020


Families escaping gang violence and persecution in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador have undertaken a dangerous journey to seek safety in the United States.
People arriving at the U.S. border have the right to request asylum without being criminalized, turned back, or separated from their children. Here’s how the process works:
What is asylum?
Asylum is a form of protection granted to individuals who can demonstrate that they are unable or unwilling to return to their country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:
  • race,
  • religion,
  • nationality,
  • membership in a particular social group,
  • or political opinion.
The right to seek asylum was incorporated into international law following the atrocities of World War II. Congress adopted key provisions of the Geneva Refugee Convention (including the international definition of a refugee) into U.S. immigration law when it passed the Refugee Act of 1980.

I don't think you really understand the concept of "asylum."

Your example is not a reason for it.
 
Yep. You're clearly uneducated and wholly ignorant.

Is it legal to cross the U.S. border to seek asylum?
March 1, 2019
Last updated October 22, 2020


Families escaping gang violence and persecution in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador have undertaken a dangerous journey to seek safety in the United States.
People arriving at the U.S. border have the right to request asylum without being criminalized, turned back, or separated from their children. Here’s how the process works:
What is asylum?
Asylum is a form of protection granted to individuals who can demonstrate that they are unable or unwilling to return to their country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of:
  • race,
  • religion,
  • nationality,
  • membership in a particular social group,
  • or political opinion.
The right to seek asylum was incorporated into international law following the atrocities of World War II. Congress adopted key provisions of the Geneva Refugee Convention (including the international definition of a refugee) into U.S. immigration law when it passed the Refugee Act of 1980.
Wow, you really are incapable of understanding the scenarios in which asylum is granted or denied.

It would probably help you out to reread your stupid fictional scenario in which said South American migrated to our US border. None of which seem to match any of what you just posted in which you said....

Say you're living in a sh*thole country in Central America, got no job and no prospects

But thanks for proving my point so I didn’t have too. 👌
 

Any of those supporters stop vehicles and attempt to remove the occupants by force, while destroying the vehicle and physically beating anyone coming out of the vehicle?

Were the roads barricaded by stacks of debris or burning material?

Anyone stop vehicles attempting to get thru and fire random AK47 rounds in the vehicle?

Any coverage of these people standing in front of cars,, thinking their 200# body is the perfect defense against a 3500# moving vehicle?
 
I have to agree with you on that - for different reasons, of course. When Obama won and dems held both houses in congress, the dems voted in lock step. When Trump won and republicans held both houses of congress, the republicans frequently did not vote together to pass legislation. In retrospect I'd have to admit that the republicans just don't have the quality leaders that the dems do ... or else republicans are not totalitarian and are willing to step back from the party line ... probably could have been remedied with more dedicated leadership. I seem to remember a dem congressman (maybe from NJ) who bucked the party line and was told he'd never again be the dem nominee ... not very tolerant, but that's "leadership" at its totalitarian finest.

So you think Pelosi and Shumer are good leaders? Sorry but they are dictators of the worst kind. At least some of the republicans have a moral compass to vote for what they believe in and not just blindly follow the hoard.
 
Perhaps we should conduct background checks and test for mental health for voting rights instead of purchase of guns?

And means testing! If you don't contribute, you don't vote. Keeps congress from pimping the freeloaders for votes and running up the debt.
 
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Any of those supporters stop vehicles and attempt to remove the occupants by force, while destroying the vehicle and physically beating anyone coming out of the vehicle?

Were the roads barricaded by stacks of debris or burning material?

Anyone stop vehicles attempting to get thru and fire random AK47 rounds in the vehicle?

Any coverage of these people standing in front of cars,, thinking their 200# body is the perfect defense against a 3500# moving vehicle?

It's cool then, carry on.
 

Once again, you've only proven your inability to actually READ.

From your link:

"...He cited one Democratic chairman who asked a Trump official, “You still keeping kids in cages?”

Homan, at the conference hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies, said, “I would answer the question, ‘The kids are being house in the same facility built under the Obama administration.’ If you want to call them cages, call them cages. But if the left wants to call them cages and the Democrats want to call them cages then they have to accept the fact that they were built and funded in FY 2015.”

He said that the Border Patrol facilities where all illegals are initially kept “were not built to take care of children.” In fact, the recent surge of younger illegal immigrants is a new trend."
 
Typical Trump disinformation.

Work with me here for a tic: Say you're living in a sh*thole country in Central America, got no job and no prospects. You set out for the US with your wife and kids, and upon reaching the border apply for asylum. But, with the new Trump reductions in allowable immigrants from your country, you're application is denied. So, what do you do now? Try to sneak across the border. And you fail... ICE picks you, your wife and your kids up. Throws all of you in a cell in Texas. Then you get your day in court, and the judge orders you deported.

Question: If at this point, you had the option to give your children a better life - an opportunity to live in the US - would you make the ultimate sacrifice, and leave them behind?

It's a horrible, terrible option to consider, but it's a stark reality for many immigrants.

After all, if your premise that the "parents don't want them back" were true, why would the parents bring their kids all the way up from that sh*thole Central American country with them in the first place?

Ah... I see the wheels turning in your head.

Trump's iron fist policies are absurd and unnecessary. As far as I'm concerned, as long as these people live by our laws and pay taxes (via withholdings from their employers) here in the US, I'm good with them being here. They're hardworking folks, desperate, and will do all the total sh*t jobs that you and I would never dream of doing (up for picking beans for 12 hours/day?).

We can do better.
Point is,the parents don’t want them deported to their country of origin (ie Guatemala, Honduras, or wherever). They want them to remain in the US for a better life and they would join them someday soon. Makes sense if you think about it.
 
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I don't think you really understand the concept of "asylum."

Your example is not a reason for it.

Heh. I understand it clearly, and so do the pro bono attorneys that often are available to help these folks.

They would request asylum based on the very bulletized items I listed.

The. End.
 
Point is,the parents don’t want them deported to their country of origin (ie Guatemala, Honduras, or wherever). They want them to remain in the US for a better life and they would join them someday soon. Makes sense if you think about it.

Precisely.
 

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