2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeburst said:
Figured you to go out and burn some stuff. Instead, we will have to overcome stifling regs and lack of op to thrive.
Yet still to calculate the 4th quarter, Biden's first comparison in economic numbers will require this trajectory with maybe a 2 quarter lag.

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The lag is important. We are always getting "facts" about how republicans spend and Clinton had a great budget and reduced debt or whatever. That's always free of the in depth analysis. Dems have a bad habit of gutting military spending and spiking the ball on the twenty ... maybe even starting an unfunded war or two along the way. Then the adults have to come back to repair the damage left by the romper room kids - that takes money and spending. In the meantime the money that was diverted from defense to entitlements can't just go away because congress has never to my knowledge screwed something up in a way it could be repaired or salvaged - obamaCare as a prime example.

That's gonna spark noise about defense spending - something even I'm not willing to defend. Eisenhower had a few wise words on the topic. I'm a firm believer that people with genuine military backgrounds resort to war only as a last resort, but dems have led us into some real questionable ones - all while screeching about defense spending.
 
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NCFisher said:
The system vendor downloaded a software update the night prior to election day. In one county alone, it threw 6000 votes to Biden that should’ve gone to Trump and threw a congressional seat to the Democrats which when corrected, put that seat back to Republicans.

That system did not self correct; an election worker/official found the error and ordered a manual recount. That’s the only reason those 6000 votes and that seat went back to Trump and Republicans.

I think the campaign is well within logic and the law to determine how many polling sites were updated by that company, then do an audit of machines which did not receive the update and those that did, and have hand counts to certify the results. If that reveals anomalies, we could be looking at massive manual recounts nationally.
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I read the election officials in Antrim Co, MI discovered the problem because the democrat lead in a normally republican county was odd. I noticed late on election night that Antrim Co was gray - nothing coming in, so they must have suspected something fishy early. Neve knew there was an Antrim Co in MI until then, but County Antrim in N Ireland is/was certainly notorious in a most unpeaceful way.
 
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MarcoVol said:
So it’s your belief that these polls intentionally are wrong?

Like how dumb would that be. Why risk credibility by doing that? Get a grip man, not everything is a conspiracy.
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So we are going to be selective then after all ? For the record , you gave the honest answer the first time . Then you decided you just want to pick and chose which one you think has credibility. I do find it interesting that you chose the polls and not the media .
 
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0nelilreb said:
So we are going to be selective then after all ?
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Not being selective. Polls were wrong. But do you think they were wrong on purpose (which would be a really dumb move)?

Trump came up with this “silent majority” lie even tho you could look at 2016 results (just like the polls) and see that there was no “majority” for Trump. And yes, I believe he knew that and just thought it sounded good.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Not being selective. Polls were wrong. But do you think they were wrong on purpose (which would be a really dumb move)?

Trump came up with this “silent majority” lie even tho you could look at 2016 results (just like the polls) and see that there was no “majority” for Trump. And yes, I believe he knew that and just thought it sounded good.
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“ Credibility “ polls have it or they screwed up bad again and they don’t . Media has it or they screwed up bad and don’t, Silent majority has credibility or they screwed up and it doesn’t .
 
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Orangeburst said:
Figured you to go out and burn some stuff. Instead, we will have to overcome stifling regs and lack of op to thrive.
Yet still to calculate the 4th quarter, Biden's first comparison in economic numbers will require this trajectory with maybe a 2 quarter lag.

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Of all the graphics used to present economic data during the shutdown and recovery this year, I think this might be the most misinterpreted.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Not being selective. Polls were wrong. But do you think they were wrong on purpose (which would be a really dumb move)?

Trump came up with this “silent majority” lie even tho you could look at 2016 results (just like the polls) and see that there was no “majority” for Trump. And yes, I believe he knew that and just thought it sounded good.
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They were absolutely wrong on purpose to give the idea of a blue wave just like the rest of the media. There were some polls from unbiased media that were spot on... why did no one mention those? Hmmmm. Cause the media has a narrative. How do people not see this? Just completely blind to reality
 
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TheColdVolTruth said:
Of all the graphics used to present economic data during the shutdown and recovery this year, I think this might be the most misinterpreted.
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I am not pointing to the 3rd quarter in particular as I have not advocated for the COVID economic losses and growth. Pre CODID....continuous prolonged growth, Post COVID, the economy is recovering nicely.
 
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BigOrangeGoose said:
They were absolutely wrong on purpose to give the idea of a blue wave just like the rest of the media. There were some polls from unbiased media that were spot on... why did no one mention those? Hmmmm. Cause the media has a narrative. How do people not see this? Just completely blind to reality
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So these polls were wrong on purpose to help get a D elected and they were so wrong on purpose that now no one believes them moving forward.

Bold strategy.
 
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MarcoVol said:
So these polls were wrong on purpose to help get a D elected and they were so wrong on purpose that now no one believes them moving forward.

Bold strategy.
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Only half of America believed them to begin with... I don’t know about you specifically, but most democrats have short term memory and will believe anything their told, especially if the media pushes it. So yes, I do believe that. Won’t affect them in the future, if there is another “election”

We can agree to disagree
 
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