2020 Presidential Race

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Orangeburst said:
I see what u are saying but think that is more a lawful interpretation issue. Kinda like these COVID mandates, which did not conform, yet still reside.
If Trump is riding the corruption issues, it has to be more than onesies and twosies. There is smoke for sure...23K-0 which may be local, and the software in MI which may be systemic.
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I think we’re saying the same thing; that the legal challenges need to be focused and not chase isolated incidents.

I’ve ignored anecdotal social media “evidence“ being passed around and propagated. His legal team will, too.
 
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NCFisher said:
I think we’re saying the same thing; that the legal challenges need to be focused and not chase isolated incidents.

I’ve ignored anecdotal social media “evidence“ being passed around and propagated. His legal team will, too.
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Do we know which states will have a recount atp?
 
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2020 Rejection Rate of Pennsylvania Mail-in Ballots Over 25 Times Lower Than in 2016


I'll say it again. These are going to recounts and this election will be decided in the courts.

Conservatives: Calm down. Remain calm. Accept whichever president the system gives us when that system is finished.

Liberals: Remember all this mocking about breakdowns and chiding to accept the President this election ends up giving us, just in case it surprises all of you by the end of it all.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
No that was Gore.


In reality I was in favor of the Florida recounts. It gave us a good system in Florida that everyone should follow. I’m in favor of recounts now in every state where there’s irregularities. Maybe it will also lead to fewer problems in those places.

I don’t think it will change the outcome of anything but we need to protect the election process.
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That's the real part. The result will be what it is - period. The process to answer a question whether it be an election, environmental decay, or an anomaly in a piece of equipment should be inviolate, considered, and free of political or popular desires. The process needs to be studied, qualified, and locked down before put into place. Elections aren't emergencies ... we know when the next round will be - and the one after that ... There's no excuse for simple counting/tabulating failing to work correctly - this is basic math - not real science.

If somebody has a beef with a fairly determined decision, that's on him. If someone has a problem with a poorly designed or operated process regardless of the outcome, that's something we should all be up in arms about.
 
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AM64 said:
That's the real part. The result will be what it is - period. The process to answer a question whether it be an election, environmental decay, or an anomaly in a piece of equipment should be inviolate, considered, and free of political or popular desires. The process needs to be studied, qualified, and locked down before put into place. Elections aren't emergencies ... we know when the next round will be - and the one after that ... There's no excuse for simple counting/tabulating failing to work correctly - this is basic math - not real science.

If somebody has a beef with a fairly determined decision, that's on him. If someone has a problem with a poorly designed or operated process regardless of the outcome, that's something we should all be up in arms about.
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One of the best things I ever learned from you is analysis and how to manipulate result to confirm or conform. Not sure I stated in very good measure...lol
 
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Orangeburst said:
Do we know which states will have a recount atp?
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Right now, just GA due to the 0.2% vote differential.

I think the SCOTUS action mandating PA sequester late arriving votes will likely precipitate recount. I expect MI to recount since it was an election official who discovered the...glitch...and the whole state used the same system.

Those are my candidates for likely recounts. Unsure what basis would be proposed for a WI recount.
 
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The Dems had a one million ballot advantage heading into election day in PA...they needed all of them to win plus suing to silence the Green Party
 
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NCFisher said:
Right now, just GA due to the 0.2% vote differential.

I think the SCOTUS action mandating PA sequester late arriving votes will likely precipitate recount. I expect MI to recount since it was an election official who discovered the...glitch...and the whole state used the same system.

Those are my candidates for likely recounts. Unsure what basis would be proposed for a WI recount.
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This leads back to the original premise. That software...what about that software.
 
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RavinDave said:
Lol. A little comic relief seems apropos, don't you think?
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Figured you to go out and burn some stuff. Instead, we will have to overcome stifling regs and lack of op to thrive.
Yet still to calculate the 4th quarter, Biden's first comparison in economic numbers will require this trajectory with maybe a 2 quarter lag.

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Orangeburst said:
This leads back to the original premise. That software...what about that software.
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The system vendor downloaded a software update the night prior to election day. In one county alone, it threw 6000 votes to Biden that should’ve gone to Trump and threw a congressional seat to the Democrats which when corrected, put that seat back to Republicans.

That system did not self correct; an election worker/official found the error and ordered a manual recount. That’s the only reason those 6000 votes and that seat went back to Trump and Republicans.

I think the campaign is well within logic and the law to determine how many polling sites were updated by that company, then do an audit of machines which did not receive the update and those that did, and have hand counts to certify the results. If that reveals anomalies, we could be looking at massive manual recounts nationally.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Figured you to go out and burn some stuff. Instead, we will have to overcome stifling regs and lack of op to thrive.
Yet still to calculate the 4th quarter, Biden's first comparison in economic numbers will require this trajectory with maybe a 2 quarter lag.

gdp3q20_adv_chart-01.png
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Me go out and burn stuff?

Heck I almost burned up my lab a couple times. That's enough for me.
 
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But, but, the boat parades, and the rallies, we had huge rallies, and I saw so many yard signs all over my small east Tenn neighborhood. How can this be right?

Seriously, so many people formed a TRump armada boat parade? How can that not represent all of America?
 
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Carp said:
My grandfather served during WWII, though he was never deployed. The war ended 2 weeks before he was set to deploy. I have great respect for those men and women.

But let's also understand probably 60% or more of those people that returned home would end up supporting ideals like segregation, the war on drugs, etc. Societies must evolve and it's up to new generations not to repeat the sins of their parents.
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Society has to evolve - no question. Society cannot evolve in a forward direction unless those who make decisions have the acquired wisdom to understand the next step. My point is that kids in HS or college who have yet to take what they've learned, put it to use, understand what it takes to be successful in the world - to even understand what it takes to survive without safety nets have not earned the right to "evolve" society. Someone today with tens of thousand (or worse hundreds of thousands) of educational debt is certainly in no position to tell the rest of us what we need to change. Wisdom is attained through the school of hard knocks; idealism is juvenile fantasy that most humans have from birth. "Sins of the parents" is a term generally born of idealism and a lack of comprehension or worse ... willingness to understand why. You can't rationally define your "religion as "progressive" and pretend it's a forward step, and you for damn sure can't measure the policies of the past based on the newly "enlightened" present. I'm in my 70s and still learning the whys and wherefores; I can promise you haven't acquired anywhere near the wisdom people my age have - we've all been where you are and understand with age how stupid we were back then.
 
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DJimgo said:
But, but, the boat parades, and the rallies, we had huge rallies, and I saw so many yard signs all over my small east Tenn neighborhood. How can this be right?

Seriously, so many people formed a TRump armada boat parade? How can that not represent all of America?
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Those boats sinking during the last Trump Rally really was foreshadowing. Now they have no boat and no leader. Lol
 
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NCFisher said:
The system vendor downloaded a software update the night prior to election day. In one county alone, it threw 6000 votes to Biden that should’ve gone to Trump and threw a congressional seat to the Democrats which when corrected, put that seat back to Republicans.

That system did not self correct; an election worker/official found the error and ordered a manual recount. That’s the only reason those 6000 boats and that seat went back to Trump and Republicans.

I think the campaign is well within logic and the law to determine how many polling sites were updated by that company, then do an audit of machines which did not receive the update and those that did, and have hand counts to certify the results. If that reveals anomalies, we could be looking at massive manual recounts nationally.
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Run em all through again as the malware has probably already been removed, hence evidence and Bloomberg code approved.
 
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