2020 Presidential Race

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BigOrangeGoose said:
Only half of America believed them to begin with... I don’t know about you specifically, but most democrats have short term memory and will believe anything their told, especially if the media pushes it. So yes, I do believe that. Won’t affect them in the future, if there is another “election”


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I can live with agreeing to disagree. And you’re right, there prob are a lot that would believe them again, which at this point is nonsensical.

But it’s not just Ds who believe anything they’re told.

Rs believed Trump every step of the way. Even when the scientific community, or the medical community, or the military community, or now the math community are saying otherwise.

Is there a thing as the “math” community? I just mean Rs kept believing him even tho the math was showing he was gonna lose when they counted more ballots.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
How does this counteract what he posted? You just posted a link to a story that happened two days ago and was already resolved. Use your brain.
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Did you take a break today?
I took recycling. Went and shot old guns with my son. Went trap shooting and then put out deer and turkey feed. Please tell me you have not been in melt mode this entire time
 
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BigOrangeGoose said:
They were absolutely wrong on purpose to give the idea of a blue wave just like the rest of the media. There were some polls from unbiased media that were spot on... why did no one mention those? Hmmmm. Cause the media has a narrative. How do people not see this? Just completely blind to reality
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There may be bias in the polls to influence voters but that is not an issue this election because Trump still received more votes than anyone has prior to 2020. The real issue in this election is if there was systematic vote fraud with mail-in ballots with special focus on a few swing states.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
There may be bias in the polls to influence voters but that is not an issue this election because Trump still received more votes than anyone has prior to 2020. The real issue in this election is if there was systematic vote fraud with mail-in ballots with special focus on a few swing states.
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What this exposes is the need for a standard and rules. If voter harvesting is ok then the Republicans are going to have to join the method.
 
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Orangeburst said:
I am not pointing to the 3rd quarter in particular as I have not advocated for the COVID economic losses and growth. Pre CODID....continuous prolonged growth, Post COVID, the economy is recovering nicely.
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I'm not pointing fingers at you, I've just seen that graphic used improperly so many times since the Q3 results were released. The graphic itself is correct, but it has been interpreted by many to show the economy is back to pre shutdown levels. That's not the intent of the graphic. The graphic shows a 30+% decrease followed by a 30+% increase. If a stock holding declines by 50% in Q2 and increases by 50% in Q3, it is still down 25%. It would require a 100% increase to return to it's previous level after a 50% decrease. The Q3 numbers were great, but there is plenty of growth needed to get back to pre shutdown GDP. I think the graphic below is a truer representation visually of the decline and recovery. Again, I'm not accusing you of misinterpreting the data, but I've seen that graphic misrepresented many times in the media in the last couple of weeks.

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MarcoVol said:
I can live with agreeing to disagree. And you’re right, there prob are a lot that would believe them again, which at this point is nonsensical.

But it’s not just Ds who believe anything they’re told.

Rs believed Trump every step of the way. Even when the scientific community, or the medical community, or the military community, or now the math community are saying otherwise.

Is there a thing as the “math” community? I just mean Rs kept believing him even tho the math was showing he was gonna lose when they counted more ballots.
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He was right. I still believe it. And trust me, I don’t listen to everything an “R” says, most of them are in on it too. I do believe trump wins convincingly if it is a fair election. Their is already so much obvious corruption and I think they’ll prove it in court, although I don’t necessarily trust the court to do the right thing. That’s just my opinion on it though

Also the media pushes whatever they want to. If a scientist or doctor says one thing and one says another, they control what most people see based on what they want them to believe. So grouping them into the “scientific community” when it’s just one side, is misguided in my opinion

Also I appreciate you’re ability to accept that not all liberals/democrats are sensical. It’s rare to see one of y’all kind to admit that lol
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Did you take a break today?
I took recycling. Went and shot old guns with my son. Went trap shooting and then put out deer and turkey feed. Please tell me you have not been in melt mode this entire time
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I’m unemployed and attached to the government tit. So no, I have nothing else better to do than do.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
There may be bias in the polls to influence voters but that is not an issue this election because Trump still received more votes than anyone has prior to 2020. The real issue in this election is if there was systematic vote fraud with mail-in ballots with special focus on a few swing states.
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It creates a narrative though for people not as involved in politics or uninformed that one candidate is much better than the other which I think is a big problem

Also I think there is vote fraud everywhere, not just swing states, but those matter most.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Oops. Glitches in the software. When software becomes sifware.

Michigan County Flips to Trump After Software Glitch Is Fixed
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Big problems with the software, Dominion and it just happened to be used in all the contested swing states. Have read where it was used in 37 states total IIRC...thanks to Pelosi aide selling it...


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2020 Rejection Rate of Pennsylvania Mail-in Ballots Over 25 Times Lower Than in 2016


I'll say it again. These are going to recounts and this election will be decided in the courts.

Conservatives: Calm down. Remain calm. Accept whichever president the system gives us when that system is finished.

Liberals: Remember all this mocking about breakdowns and chiding to accept the President this election ends up giving us, just in case it surprises all of you by the end of it all.
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Check out this evidence. If you're not interested in the nuts and bolts, skip to 34mins .... it explains about ghosts, phantoms and other tactics and irregularities. Also shows a lot of that dirty dealing such as when all 5 states quit counting votes for 3 hours in the middle of the night,, then all 5 restarting at the same time with hundreds of thousands of new votes all for Biden of course.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
What this exposes is the need for a standard and rules. If voter harvesting is ok then the Republicans are going to have to join the method.
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True. Standards and rules should be uniformed for all states including DC. I also believe there should be triple verification with the last verification being completed by one Dem rep and one Repub rep in each voting location.
 
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