2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
I will never post another poll here again. They were worse this time than four years ago. Polls don't work anymore. USA Today had a good article as to the many reasons why. It's not due to an overt bias, it's just impossible to equally sample both parties in several states... and all of those states also just happen to be battleground states right now.
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Whelp count on a bunch of us virtually beating your thick skull in if you ever do post one!
 
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08Vol said:
I think the 2016 results in Wisconsin is what drove voter turnout this year. A registered D in TN may feel discouraged to vote since it is always a R landslide. Also a registered R in TN may feel it isn’t important to vote since it is always a R landslide. However in 2016 Wisconsin was won by a few thousand votes. That signaled to voters from both parties that their votes are very important. I would be suspicious if I saw a voter turnout like this in TN or NY.
If I was still suspicious of the turnout in WI I would check outside factors to see if they support the data. In the weeks leading up to the election how many political ads were run there? How much effort did both campaigns put into their “get out the vote” initiatives there? How many rallies did each candidate hold there just before the election? How large was each campaign’s staff in the state?
If you find WI was receiving more focus and money than most other states then you would expect them to have a higher % of voter turnout.
Think back to 2016 when Trump won the rust belt, a typical Democrat strong hold. It turned out R turnout was up while D turnout was down. Why? Hillary visited those state a few times in the month before the election while Trump had visited dozens and dozens of times.

A side note is that mail in voting makes it easier for people who are registered to actually vote. States that allow all their voters to vote by mail should see a higher turnout than states that don’t.
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The mail in ballots are also unwitnessed, so the question is who actually filled them out. That is the point. If you vote in person and are properly identified, you get a blank ballot and nobody to help you fill it in. Sure people can be influenced in any number of ways with respect to voting in person, but they at least have to make the effort. I wouldn't have a problem, for example, if mail in ballots required the person appear before a notary with a verified blank ballot, proper identification, and placed the completed ballot in a secrecy envelop before getting the notary's signature. That at least fairly well duplicates what's required for in person voting. What was allowed this time was a sham.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Bragging about 20% of minorities voting for your party is like celebrating the fact that *only* 80% of minorities don't trust you.
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So your answer is, "no, I don't have an answer; therefore, I'll change the argument." He garnered more minority support by far than any republican in recent history. That fact by itself proves the "divisiveness" claim is simply a false narrative pushed by msm, and you gobbled it up.
 
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CNN)Former President George W. Bush congratulated President-elect Joe Biden in a phone call Sunday and said that, while President Donald Trump has the right to pursue legal challenges and recounts, the 2020 race was "fundamentally fair" and "its outcome is clear."
 
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peerless98 said:
So your answer is, "no, I don't have an answer; therefore, I'll change the argument." He garnered more minority support by far than any republican in recent history. That fact by itself proves the "divisiveness" claim is simply a false narrative pushed by msm, and you gobbled it up.
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Speaking of accomplishments, I present the venn diagram of failure.

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Your horse lost. Now, piss off. See you in 2024.
 
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AM64 said:
How do you think Biden plans to redevelop US industry? That not FDR's socialism was what put the US back on it's feet and provided the equipment to defeat the enemy. Our industry was what made us the world power after WW2. We had the isolation (two big oceans) to manufacture in peace, the natural resources, and the people; we still have all that, but have failed to respect and use it wisely. Trump has been the only president in many years to try to do anything about the political and investment sector sellout of our industry, Biden for almost 50 years helped oversee the big sellout.
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Mr. Biden gonna save us all.
 
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