2020 Presidential Race

[Orange_Vol1321]

They only had time to fill in the top box.

Logical thinking and common sense tells you that.

Here's what I think happened. They had written code in the machines to take so much percentage of Trump votes and flip them to Biden votes. We have seen video in real time of 506 votes taken from a R and 506 votes given to a D. When they seen normal blue cities voting in such a high percentage for Trump they knew they were in trouble.

Then all the swing states, at the same time, stopped counting. Never before heard of. This is when they had to go with option B and bring in millions of fraudulent filled out ballots that because of time restraints only had the presidency box marked and not the down ballots. If this turns out to be true, these ballots will have come from a different country and contain no watermark.


On the flip side, the ballots sent to Republicans that got destroyed, thrown away ect. with the watermark will show as missing once mailed out.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Or maybe Trump was so sh*tty that millions of Americans showed up just to vote him out.

Yea, your what if is just like my what if.

 

[OHvol40]

We, on volnation, don't have to produce evidence. We're not going to court. These ballots this year were watermarked for the first time in history, that I can find, using blockchain technology by DHS. An amateur counter/volunteer wouldn't have known that. If a country did print millions of ballots for fraudulent purposes, they wouldn't have known that either.

An accusation (especially by people invested in an alternative outcome) does not a fact make.

 

[OHvol40]

Yea, your what if is just like my what if.

I guess we should apply Occam’s razor and see which one holds up and which one looks like conspiracy.

 

[FLVOL_79]

An accusation (especially by people invested in an alternative outcome) does not a fact make.

Glad you've realized this finally. Only took you four years!

 

[Orange Maniac]

Lol. Told my family this. If there was no fraud what are democrats pitching such a fit over a recount?

Just one problem. I haven't seen anyone pitching a fit over a recount. If the vote is close enough in certain jurisdictions an automatic recount kicks in and it doesn't matter who opposes it or who is for it. Never in my life have I seen a recount find more than a few hundred vote differences anywhere. Recount won't mean much if it follows past recounts but in close elections it needs to be done where needed.

 

[McDad]

Or maybe Trump was so sh*tty that millions of Americans showed up just to vote him out.

Yes.

But if that's the narrative, it is also possible many voted fraudulently to get him out.

It's the same concept. Only the mechanics of it are different.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Jack slinging some sarcasm I see. Like his name change.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Just one problem. I haven't seen anyone pitching a fit over a recount. If the vote is close enough in certain jurisdictions an automatic recount kicks in and it doesn't matter who opposes it or who is for it. Never in my life have I seen a recount find more than a few hundred vote differences anywhere. Recount won't mean much if it follows past recounts but in close elections it needs to be done where needed.

All swing states that stopped voting at the same time Tuesday needs recounted. Has nothing to do with how close the percentage is if they can show proof of wrong doing.

 

[OHvol40]

Yes.

But if that's the narrative, it is also possible many voted fraudulently to get him out.

It's the same concept. Only the mechanics of it are different.

Which one is more plausible?

 

[luthervol]

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A football game is over when the final horn goes off.
An election is over when all the votes have been counted.
The best analogy is had the ball been snapped before the horn, they would have let the play continue for however long it took.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

An accusation (especially by people invested in an alternative outcome) does not a fact make.

The watermarks are going to be your facts.

 

[utvolpj]

A football game is over when the final horn goes off.
An election is over when all the votes have been counted.
The best analogy is had the ball been snapped before the horn, they would have let the play continue for however long it took.

Your analogy doesn't work because I've attended games where that was not true.

Al Gore's game played for 37 more days after the horn sounded. Why doesn't Trump get the same courtesy?

 

[SlingBlayde]

That post was a joke obviously

 

[GAVol]

A football game is over when the final horn goes off.
An election is over when all the votes have been counted.
The best analogy is had the ball been snapped before the horn, they would have let the play continue for however long it took.

I’m a Tennessee fan, therefore I know this is not true.

 

[McDad]

Which one is more plausible?

I think both are. Abrasive candidate hated by millions but apathetic towards others on ballot. Abrasive candidate hated by millions and some saw an opportunity to pad the vote.

My concern about the alleged fraud has little to do with Trump. It is much more about the validity of the election process.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

Is there evidence of systemic fraud? If not it’s just spiteful pouting.

There are signs.

 

[McDad]

A football game is over when the final horn goes off.

Unless it's UT.

 

[TennesseeTopHat]

If there’s so much evidence of voter fraud then how how come every case brought in a court of law has been thrown out, even with republican judges? Maybe because the disinformation campaign is different than the facts brought in court?

 

[NO SIR EEE]

Al Gore was president for 32 days until it all went to the supreme court. Hopefully a wrong gets righted here.

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

The voting and counts happened how the laws of the states dictate they happen, just like every election before this one. The transparency was executed in the same way as well. If there is evidence to the contrary, give it. If not, no amount of sour grapes changes anything.

Yes there is evidence to the contrary. In Pa alone, laws were changed illegally to allow extended days for ballots to be accepted and the criteria was changed on signatures. What were the checks and balances in the mail-in voting. Why were Republican reps not allowed in to verify ballot counting. Why were Republicans Reps not allowed in at the distance to watch the counting. Just a few to mention.

 

[McDad]

If there’s so much evidence of voter fraud then how how come every case brought in a court of law has been thrown out, even with republican judges? Maybe because the disinformation campaign is different than the facts brought in court?

This is important. All the claims on Twitter and Facebook are not worth the paper they're written on.

The lawyers and judges must determine the merits of legitimate claims.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

If there’s so much evidence of voter fraud then how how come every case brought in a court of law has been thrown out, even with republican judges? Maybe because the disinformation campaign is different than the facts brought in court?

I haven't heard of any evidence sent to any of these cases last week. They were going to court saying the votes received after 8pm should be stopped.

 

[RavinDave]

Al Gore was president for 32 days until it all went to the supreme court. Hopefully a wrong gets righted here.

Don’t hold your breath.

 

[SlingBlayde]

There are signs.

The big items I see are: 1) the delivery of 138k Biden MI ballots by a van and Ferrari in the middle of the night 2) voting machine errors 3) sharpie use in AZ and 4) destruction of ballots at an incinerator in the Philly area caught on camera. I’m sure I’ve missed some.