2020 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
Absolutely. The last couple of pages don't include any evidence of voting fraud. I see some personal anecdotal incidents which even taken at face value (and that is giving a big benefit of the doubt here), are not evidence of any systemic fraud. None of these races are as close as Florida was in 2000... and from election night until December 12, 2000... there was a manual recount which cut about 1,200 votes from Bush's lead over Gore. You are hoping for recounts to make up differences of more than 10,000 votes - or in the case of Pennsylvania - more than 40,000? It's just not going to happen.
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It may happen and definitely should happen. Mail In ballets went from 25% to 50% of the total vote count. This statistic alone should allow for recounts requested by Biden or Trump. What checks and balances were in place? Were the checks and balances compromised by the overwhelming difference in the mail in vote count.
Why did the Dems petition the PA Supreme Court to disallow the Green party from being on the PA ballot this year. This party had 30,000 votes in 2016 with most of them likely taken from Hillary. The PA Supreme Court is dominated by Democratic appointed judges. Why did the same court allow ballots to be counted 3 days after Tuesday when the Philadelphia legislature set a Tuesday deadline? Why did the Pa Suoreme court state that signatures would not have to be verified? Why did the Supreme Court state if the post mark was not clear then assume it was received by Tuesday?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Absolutely. The last couple of pages don't include any evidence of voting fraud. I see some personal anecdotal incidents which even taken at face value (and that is giving a big benefit of the doubt here), are not evidence of any systemic fraud. None of these races are as close as Florida was in 2000... and from election night until December 12, 2000... there was a manual recount which cut about 1,200 votes from Bush's lead over Gore. You are hoping for recounts to make up differences of more than 10,000 votes - or in the case of Pennsylvania - more than 40,000? It's just not going to happen.
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Answer the question. Would you accept a recount of all
Swing states?
 
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08Vol said:
If you assume people are faking mail in ballots then you have to assume people are faking in person voting. When I early voted in this election there was not a set location in the county and all I showed was a driver’s license and told them my name. A person who was at least 75 barely looked at my ID. They typed my name into a computer and handed me my ballot. My address on my DL did not match the address I am registered to vote under and is in a different county (it is updated in TN’s system but I didn’t have to order a new license).
Does that sound like a system that is so much harder to scam than mail in voting? If not then why do you trust in person more than by mail?
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Congratulations on admitting to voter fraud in a public forum?
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
If the shoe was on the other foot ...... Dems would be doing the same & you know that to be fact.
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That is not true. The most likely outcome is that Biden wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (plus Michigan, which actually wasn't very close at all). Trump will win North Carolina. That will leave Biden with 306 electoral college votes and Trump with 232. Does that breakdown sound familiar? It should: in 2016 Trump won 306 electoral college votes and Hillary Clinton won 232.

And Biden is currently leading Michigan by a larger margin than Trump won with in 2016.... however, Hillary made no such noise about a "rigged election" after her loss. She didn't claim that she had actually won, and she didn't file any law suits or talk about recounts in states she was losing by more than 40,000 votes (such as Trump in Pennsylvania).

But have the recounts... it's not going to change who is inaugurated on January 20th.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not true. The most likely outcome is that Biden wins Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania (plus Michigan, which actually wasn't very close at all). Trump will win North Carolina. That will leave Biden with 306 electoral college votes and Trump with 232. Does that breakdown sound familiar? It should: in 2016 Trump won 306 electoral college votes and Hillary Clinton won 232.

And Biden is currently leading Michigan by a larger margin than Trump won with in 2016.... however, Hillary made no such noise about a "rigged election" after her loss. She didn't claim that she had actually won, and she didn't file any law suits or talk about recounts in states she was losing by more than 40,000 votes (such as Trump in Pennsylvania).

But have the recounts... it's not going to change who is inaugurated on January 20th.
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BowlBrother85 said:
There should be recounts in states where the spread was less than 1%. I don't see the point in doing a recount in Michigan or Minnesota. That would be waste of time.
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I disagree with you on Michigan. Georgia,NC, Wisconsin, Arizona and Nevada should be recounted. The point is all Americans should have confidence the vote counts in those states are legit and free of fraud.

Let me ask you about another topic. Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. Why is the liberal press and social media censoring reporting on the possible pay to influence and kickback schemes yet never censored anything regarding what turned out to be bogus Trump-Russian collusion allegations. Does it bother you that Hunter Biden with his lack of credentials sat on the board of Burisma? Does the possibility of Joe Biden and corruption bother you at all? Does it seem odd to you that Joe Biden threatened to withhold Ukraine aid if the special prosecutor was not fired in the investigation of the company that Hunter Biden was on the board of? Does it bother you that it is indisputable the press is pro-Democratic party and will censure any negative news or reports that are detrimental to the Democratic Party?
 
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Jxn Vol said:
If the cheating was more than 1% then I disagree.
#dominion
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Can you prove that there was fraud by such a large amount? Anywhere? That is going to take a lot more than just anecdotal evidence. That would be at least 30,000 votes in most states. That just doesn't happen.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Can you prove that there was fraud by such a large amount? Anywhere? That is going to take a lot more than just anecdotal evidence. That would be at least 30,000 votes in most states. That just doesn't happen.
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Just mail it in voting never happened before either. Why couldn't the normal absentee voting process be used instead of an absurd last minute contrived bungle. Nobody in his right mind does things in this kind of irresponsible manner - shouldn't be that hard for the party of science to grasp a need for testing and verification. Maybe your party just isn't as educated as you think it is.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Can you prove that there was fraud by such a large amount? Anywhere? That is going to take a lot more than just anecdotal evidence. That would be at least 30,000 votes in most states. That just doesn't happen.
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We don’t need proof. That’s has been established. I reference the Steele dossier.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Recount those also. This year with the historical change in voting methods should Be a reason to allow for recounts in any race at any level. Any Democrat or Republican running for office should have recount requests granted. Throw out the percentage criteria for this election year only.
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Recounting the same ballots in a state race that isn’t that close, what is the logical purpose of that?
 
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