2020 Presidential Race

[TheDeeble]

We're not going to move forward as long as a major network is broadcasting faceless people who are making accusations of "rampant" election fraud.

I think networks should be consider it as credible as they did the faceless people that accused Trump of calling military members suckers and losers.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yeah I’m sure that is a general summary of what is about. I’ll read your link tomorrow.

Don’t bother.
It’s inaccurate trash.

 

[Orangeslice13]

“Maddison presented an argument that majority Tyranny would Be a problem and nobody objected so it wasn’t a concern “.

^^^^^^^
That’s some stupid **** right there.
Or maybe they were all in agreement and passed the EC in response to what would be an obvious problem.

Bottom line is the EC isn’t going away.

 

[tvolsfan]

 

[tvolsfan]

I thought this was a good speech.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

he has accomplished what he set out to do. Convince his followers that elections are not secure. They had evidence, now they need to find evidence. Down the rabbit hole we go.

 

[tvolsfan]

Pennsylvania safely out of reach for any court case or recount.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Sworn eyewitness testimony of voter fraud is evidence. They will have their day in court. Surely you want it to be investigated if fraud happened, right?

What sworn witness testimony? The guy from Philadelphia recanted, said he was paid 130k. Arizona lady saw a Biden Harris van unloading ballots. No one believes that. But carry on.

 

[tvolsfan]

What sworn witness testimony? The guy from Philadelphia recanted, said he was paid 130k. Arizona lady saw a Biden Harris van unloading ballots. No one believes that. But carry on.

I’m pretty sure most of the sworn affidavits were people just complaining they couldn’t stand closer. They have no shot.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Lulz

But errors are not fraud. Fraud is an intentional act to deceive. The errors that they are crying about are immaterial.

 

[Weezer]

What sworn witness testimony? The guy from Philadelphia recanted, said he was paid 130k. Arizona lady saw a Biden Harris van unloading ballots. No one believes that. But carry on.

130k? I'll claim I saw voter fraud for 130k....

They was cheatin'! I seent it!

 

[FallCreekVols]

Democrats Suggest Out-of-State Liberals Move to Georgia to Vote in Senate Runoff Elections - David Harris Jr.

 

[hUTch2002]

My gosh. I have plenty of family members on my Dad’s side who are Democrats. We get along just fine.

Agreed. This is a direct result of the lies and propaganda told by the Dems and MSM to make Trump appear racist. It’s also a direct result of the George Floyd incident being used to manipulate people. Had that entire video come out from the beginning I’m sure people would’ve still been upset at the actions of the cop but I highly doubt the riots would have started. The people that held that video back from the public should be held responsible for the subsequent damage, at least in Minneapolis. It’s sickening. For the love of God, that first tweet talked about life or death and associate that with Trump because that’s what the Dems and MSM have done for 4 years. I agree Trump has done nothing to reach across the aisle but he’s no more divisive than the Dems and MSM. In fact, we saw what happens when a member of the media treats him with respect in that 3rd debate. Guess what happened? He treated her with respect. Funny how that works. The problem Dems and the MSM have now is I bet they can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube.

 

[Orangeslice13]

he has accomplished what he set out to do. Convince his followers that elections are not secure. They had evidence, now they need to find evidence. Down the rabbit hole we go.

The problem is easily solved.
But both side play to their audience.

 

[Orangeslice13]

What sworn witness testimony? The guy from Philadelphia recanted, said he was paid 130k. Arizona lady saw a Biden Harris van unloading ballots. No one believes that. But carry on.

The guy hasn’t recanted but believe your anonymous sources.
I tell you what. Let’s making buying guns available at the same standard as voting. You don’t have a problem with that do you? Since there no real concern for fraud

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

That is what was reported. I was amused by it and also the anemic car turnouts for some of Biden’s events the last couple of weeks. One report was 200 cars with an estimated 500’people showing up beeping their horns.

Rallies don't win elections. Never been to a rally in my life.... no need to go. I knew who I was voting for. The rallies that donald has is more for his ego than anything else. They are like cult gatherings. He lies, they cheer. They chant, he smiles. Sad really....

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

The problem is easily solved.
But both side play to their audience.

What is the problem, and what is the solution?

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Math is a struggle for those with a lib fart degree

It seems you struggle with math. This country has 350 million people. You could take Texas, California, Florida, Illinois and New York and have every single person vote for Biden and it would only be 20% of the total vote.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

The guy hasn’t recanted but believe your anonymous sources.
I tell you what. Let’s making buying guns available at the same standard as voting. You don’t have a problem with that do you? Since there no real concern for fraud

He did recant, and say someone paid him 130k. What's the correlation between guns and votes? Can I take my ballot down to the bank and rob them with my vote? If i leave my ballot laying around, can my 8 year old kill my 3 year old? Your argument is called false equivalency. Voting should be easy, it is a right bestowed every eligible citizen. Every citizen should not own a gun.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

This is an argument supporting the electoral college. The point is the two largest populated liberal states tip the total vote count to the Democratic candidate almost every election. That is why the electoral college was initiated by the founding fathers. It placed more power to the individual states in deciding the outcome of the presidential election. If not in place we would likely be a one party country. The same voting system would give the liberal states a chance to elect a president if conservatives were concentrated in smaller areas and outnumbered the liberals nationwide.

What is your explanation for the popular vote? Fewer people have voted for the conservative platform 7 out of 8 elections.

 

[Orangeslice13]

What is the problem, and what is the solution?

Perception is the problem.
Any possible fraud is blown out of proportion by one side to play to their base and ignored By your side to play to the base. You just posted a lie that the guy recanted. He didn’t. An anonymous source says he did and was paid. He still claims he didn’t recant and there’s no proof of payment but you chose to believe the imagery people as opposed to the person speaking publicly.
a tight and right system like Florida uses ends all this.

-must register to vote.
-Must request a ballot
-If ballot requested you cannot vote in person. As your name is blocked on the role.
-If you end up voting in person you sign an affidavit eliminating the mail in vote.
-no counting of ballots without both sides in attendance
I would add.
-counting Does not happen until all votes are in and secure.

It’s not hard. It would solve a lot of problems and has where used. But neither side gets to play games with perception if it’s used.

 

[Orangeslice13]

He did recant, and say someone paid him 130k. What's the correlation between guns and votes? Can I take my ballot down to the bank and rob them with my vote? If i leave my ballot laying around, can my 8 year old kill my 3 year old? Your argument is called false equivalency. Voting should be easy, it is a right bestowed every eligible citizen. Every citizen should not own a gun.

Yes you can rob people with your ballot and a gun isn’t required to rob a bank. The correlation is on how important you view each issue

 

[Orangeslice13]

He did recant, and say someone paid him 130k. What's the correlation between guns and votes? Can I take my ballot down to the bank and rob them with my vote? If i leave my ballot laying around, can my 8 year old kill my 3 year old? Your argument is called false equivalency. Voting should be easy, it is a right bestowed every eligible citizen. Every citizen should not own a gun.

He has not recanted.
He’s on record rebuffing the story that he recanted.
Someone lied and you bought it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

The 2a says that every Eligible citizen who wants one should own a gun.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

Perception is the problem.
Any possible fraud is blown out of proportion by one side to play to their base and ignored By your side to play to the base. You just posted a lie that the guy recanted. He didn’t. An anonymous source says he did and was paid. He still claims he didn’t recant and there’s no proof of payment but you chose to believe the imagery people as opposed to the person speaking publicly.
a tight and right system like Florida uses ends all this.

-must register to vote.
-Must request a ballot
-If ballot requested you cannot vote in person. As your name is blocked on the role.
-If you end up voting in person you sign an affidavit eliminating the mail in vote.
-no counting of ballots without both sides in attendance
I would add.
-counting Does not happen until all votes are in and secure.

It’s not hard. It would solve a lot of problems and has where used. But neither side gets to play games with perception if it’s used.

Everything you listed is already done. So what is the problem? This is not the cash room at a vegas casino. Your perception that votes are counted in secret is skewed. There are observers, there have always been observers.
I mean, we need proof of payment to prove the guy was paid?