2020 Presidential Race

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Orange_Crush said:
Yep. And that's my point, Einstein. There is a system in place to prove that before calling an election. That's where the state of the election is, and it's the system these marchers are promoting. You took off your mask of civility by all but cheering the fact that leftists are attacking people for peacefully assembling in support of the system.

Oddly, you cheered the ones attacking the peaceful protesters while calling the peaceful protesters who are supporting the legal system in play "fascists".

I'm not sure I've seen greater stupidity on here in some time, and that's saying something.

And lastly, speaking of "burden of proof", you said:




Hm... That's the claim that there was no voter fraud, which will put the burden of proof on you, especially since you're calling to stop the legal process of verifying an election and mocking the victims of violence because they are marching in support of it.

So... Can you provide the evidence that there was no voter fraud? Or did you just wake up today and decide to do your best impression of the things that the rest of us hope not to step in?
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You have yet to provide even one ounce of proof of voter fraud yet you continually ask me to prove it doesn’t exist. Judges, lawyers, all on my side of the argument. Crackpot MAGAs and unverified twitter posts are on yours. Someone is right, and I’m guessing it’s not the one straight up lying.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Yep. And that's my point, Einstein. There is a system in place to prove that before calling an election. That's where the state of the election is, and it's the system these marchers are promoting. You took off your mask of civility by all but cheering the fact that leftists are attacking people for peacefully assembling in support of the system.

Oddly, you cheered the ones attacking the peaceful protesters while calling the peaceful protesters who are supporting the legal system in play "fascists".

I'm not sure I've seen greater stupidity on here in some time, and that's saying something.

And lastly, speaking of "burden of proof", you said:




Hm... That's the claim that there was no voter fraud, which will put the burden of proof on you, especially since you're calling to stop the legal process of verifying an election and mocking the victims of violence because they are marching in support of it.

So... Can you provide the evidence that there was no voter fraud? Or did you just wake up today and decide to do your best impression of the things that the rest of us hope not to step in?
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Also if you could point me to the spot where I cheered the BLM protestor who hit the guy? I pretty clearly stated it was trashy. The guy with the bullhorn? He didn’t hit anybody. He was just peacefully protesting same as the MAGAs. But you already knew that. You have been straight up lying in this thread for days but have the gall to leave yourself just enough of an out where you can claim you never made the stupid ass claims you made.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
You have yet to provide even one ounce of proof of voter fraud yet you continually ask me to prove it doesn’t exist. Judges, lawyers, all on my side of the argument. Crackpot MAGAs and unverified twitter posts are on yours. Someone is right, and I’m guessing it’s not the one straight up lying.
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It's not my job to provide proof of voter fraud. I'm a bystander watching the system work.

I've never claimed it exists. I merely point out that it's working it's way through the system and we need to let that system produce the winner.

You're the one who has repeatedly claimed that no fraud happened, and no evidence exists. Then you retreat from me asking you to give us proof to back it up. I think it's especially pertinent to ask for such proof now that you're mocking the victims of physical violence committed merely for promoting the legal system that the election's going through.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Also if you could point me to the spot where I cheered the BLM protestor who hit the guy? I pretty clearly stated it was trashy. The guy with the bullhorn? He didn’t hit anybody. He was just peacefully protesting same as the MAGAs. But you already knew that. You have been straight up lying in this thread for days but have the gall to leave yourself just enough of an out where you can claim you never made the stupid ass claims you made.
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I said "all but cheered". You claimed it was trashy and then cheered as your new hero the guy that mocked the victims. That's a wonderful look.

How have I lied in this thread? Can you point me to it?

It's lying to report claims, research them, and state that there may be reasonable explanations? You call it lying while admitting that I wasn't by bemoaning that I "left and out". i.e. Didn't lie.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I've never claimed it exists. I merely point out that it's working it's way through the system and we need to let that system produce the winner.

You're the one who has repeatedly claimed that no fraud happened, and no evidence exists. Then you retreat from me asking you to give us proof to back it up. I think it's especially pertinent to ask for such proof now that you're cheering physical violence committed against others for promoting the legal system that the election's going through.
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Again, I can say there has been no voter fraud due to the fact there has been zero proven claims of fraud. Actually, I take that back. There have been two proven cases of fraud, and both resulted in votes for Trump. So, show me again where this fraud is? Apparently the best legal minds in this country have been unable to find it.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Did you not read the article?
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Actually I hadn't. I thought it was the same article referenced yesterday. I can't tell what Hovland has done - the EAC charter looks more like a "feel good" thing than something with teeth. There's really nothing on the EAC site that even addresses security issues. Seems like not much done for a $9.6M budget.
 
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AM64 said:
Actually I hadn't. I thought it was the same article referenced yesterday. I can't tell what Hovland has done - the EAC charter looks more like a "feel good" thing than something with teeth. There's really nothing on the EAC site that even addresses security issues. Seems like not much done for a $9.6M budget.
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Sounds like a Trump problem since he appointed him.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Again, I can say there has been no voter fraud due to the fact there has been zero proven claims of fraud. Actually, I take that back. There have been two proven cases of fraud, and both resulted in votes for Trump. So, show me again where this fraud is? Apparently the best legal minds in this country have been unable to find it.
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That's fallacious logic. I would have hoped you'd be smarter than that.

It's one thing to say that the claims of voter fraud are unproven. It's quite another to say there has been no voter fraud. I suspect you're smart enough to recognize the difference. And I suspect you make the latter statement because you know how stupid it would be to use the former as an excuse to stop the system that would be used to prove voter fraud.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Sounds like a Trump problem since he appointed him.
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Trump appointed him to fill a vacancy on an existing commission. Looks like EAC is a perfectly good example of taxpayer money. There's nothing on the website about voting that you wouldn't find from state resources.
 
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