2020 Presidential Race

[MarcoVol]

Where have I referenced any of Tumps statements Cletus? I’m completely focused on Powell’s work I don’t pay attention to Trumps tweets. Thus it would appear my dumbass statement was correct after all

Trump is the one who claimed fraud and set this “investigation” in motion or are you not bright enough to understand that correlation? You realize she is Trump’s lawyer, right?

 

[MarcoVol]

I don’t need Trump to tell me there was fraud. Biden receiving 8m more votes than Obama’s previous record indicates to me that massive fraud occurred during this election. It doesn’t pass the smell test. A complete & thorough election audit should be conducted. Our elections going forward will be useless and we will become the world’s largest banana republic if the BS is allowed to continue.

Y’all act like it wasn’t expected that we would have a massive turnout for the election. Like where you been all year to not understand that would happen?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Trump is the one who claimed fraud and set this “investigation” in motion or are you not bright enough to understand that correlation? You realize she is Trump’s lawyer, right?

Yes I do. And she has legal venues to make her case and will do so when she chooses.

Why with the nervous “stop resisting” act? What are you afraid of in letting the process work thru?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The Million Patriot March means nothing and has no power.

The only way politicians, bureaucrats and judges get to keep ripping us off and stay in power is by us being divided and at least 1/2 the country believing the charade of their vote matters. If the conspiracies of votes being changed, lost or manufactured are true that means immensely powerful forces are at work to ensure another Trump never happens and they remain in control. Those forces will not allow proof to be taken seriously.

Home run...

Marches, writing your congressman and now voting don't do a damned thing.

 

[lostsheep]

I don’t need Trump to tell me there was fraud. Biden receiving 8m more votes than Obama’s previous record indicates to me that massive fraud occurred during this election. It doesn’t pass the smell test. A complete & thorough election audit should be conducted. Our elections going forward will be useless and we will become the world’s largest banana republic if the BS is allowed to continue.

Or...perhaps it was just due to a record turnout and the sheer volume of Americans who simply want trump gone??

 

[OHvol40]

Great. So about those state legislature updates coming?

You said the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor. That research implies otherwise. So move those goalposts at will I suppose.

 

[OHvol40]

Or...perhaps it was just due to a record turnout and the sheer volume of Americans who simply want trump gone??

That is impossible! Dear leader is the second coming! Witch hunt! Fake news! We will win! It’s God’s will!

 

[NorthDallas40]

You said the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor. That research implies otherwise. So move those goalposts at will I suppose.

Nope it does no such thing. I’ve stated all along the state legislatures have to power to do this today and have not done so. The average citizen is a civics dumbass so I really don’t weight your popularity vote on the popularity vote very much.

If they care that much why aren’t they engaging their state legislatures to enact this change. Since ... you know that is the process. The goal posts stand firm as does your usual meandering around any useful point

 

[Weezer]

Nonsense. He is the people's choice when he gets a majority of the vote. As will be the case this time.
Usually the president is both the people's and the states' choice.

There is no "people's choice". The winner of the EC is the President. Period. The EC is representative of the states, 50 of which have united for a common good, not to be ruled over by other states that have a higher population. The popular vote is only a thing because people like you try to make it a thing.

 

[Orange_Crush]

You said the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor. That research implies otherwise. So move those goalposts at will I suppose.

Actually, his point was that many states will not easily give up their voice by agreeing to negate the EC, and he is correct.

 

[NorthDallas40]

There is no "people's choice". The winner of the EC is the President. Period. The EC is representative of the states, 50 of which have united for a common good, not to be ruled over by other states that have a higher population. The popular vote is only a thing because people like you try to make it a thing.

Oh you’ve done it now. Now both Luther and the Ohio kid will tell you how meaningful the popular vote is... which wasn’t even done before 1824

 

[MarcoVol]

Yes I do. And she has legal venues to make her case and will do so when she chooses.

Why with the nervous “stop resisting” act? What are you afraid of in letting the process work thru?

Such a ridiculous question. I’ve stated many times to do whatever investigation is needed to pacify the feelings of the spoiled baby that currently resides in the WH. No problem with Trump losing again.

My issue is with those who ignore what happened (Trump lost) bc they don’t like the outcome. And claiming that the election will be overturned. And Trump tweeting “I won the election!” encouraging that crowd. And tweeting that there was massive fraud without providing proof. And Sidney Powell stating it on national TV without providing proof.

But I’m sure the proof will be revealed “soon”.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Actually, his point was that many states will not easily give up their voice by agreeing to negate the EC, and he is correct.

Nah the Ohio kid is a genius and has overwhelming anecdotal data to show why

 

[NorthDallas40]

Such a ridiculous question. I’ve stated many times to do whatever investigation is needed to pacify the feelings of the spoiled baby that currently resides in the WH. No problem with Trump losing again.

My issue is with those who ignore what happened (Trump lost) bc they don’t like the outcome. And claiming that the election will be overturned. And Trump tweeting “I won the election!” encouraging that crowd. And tweeting that there was massive fraud without providing proof. And Sidney Powell stating it on national TV without providing proof.

But I’m sure the proof will be revealed “soon”.

So basically you want to cry about the outcome of others not agreeing to “stop resisting” without exhausting their legal provided venues. LMFAO that sounds like the definition of a waste of time

 

[Orange_Crush]

Such a ridiculous question. I’ve stated many times to do whatever investigation is needed to pacify the feelings of the spoiled baby that currently resides in the WH. No problem with Trump losing again.

My issue is with those who ignore what happened (Trump lost) bc they don’t like the outcome. And claiming that the election will be overturned. And Trump tweeting “I won the election!” encouraging that crowd. And tweeting that there was massive fraud without providing proof. And Sidney Powell stating it on national TV without providing proof.

But I’m sure the proof will be revealed “soon”.

How did you feel about Adam Schiff claiming proof of pee pee showers and Russian collusion on national TV without providing proof? How do you feel about Biden accepting the presidency before the votes are certified? Your indignation seems a tad selective.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Recount, Day 4: Counties resume work, Raffensperger debunks Trump
No irregularities or significant tabulation errors emerged during the first three days of the recount, officials said. Two major metro counties — Fulton and DeKalb — completed their efforts on Sunday.

Meh... Garbage in. Garbage out.

 

[Rifleman]

he will be spend more than he makes. I don't think host will work for free. How much hate TV can someone watch?

Also, when people can just watch their preferred basement incel spin conspiracies on Youtube is the Hannity/Maddow propaganda model going to remain as profitable?

 

[OHvol40]

Nope it does no such thing. I’ve stated all along the state legislatures have to power to do this today and have not done so. The average citizen is a civics dumbass so I really don’t weight your popularity vote on the popularity vote very much.

If they care that much why aren’t they engaging their state legislatures to enact this change. Since ... you know that is the process. The goal posts stand firm as does your usual meandering around any useful point

You dodged defending your claim that the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor, but we both know you can’t defend it so we can move forward to something you can actually engage on without embarrassing yourself with some absurd justification.

Democracy is slow, but once the gerrymandered state legislatures have their feet held to the fire on this issue, especially if it starts to show up on party platforms, we very well may see that change. It might even happen in my lifetime.

 

[NCFisher]

Well then they need to prove it. What’s taking so long....?

It’s only been two weeks.

Because VN and the court of public opinion is not the legal avenue through which this must travel. Because this is a tremendous amount of information requiring a tremendous amount of validating, swearing witnesses, before presenting the evidence into the legal system.

C’mon people...

 

[NorthDallas40]

How did you feel about Adam Schiff claiming proof of pee pee showers and Russian collusion on national TV without providing proof? How do you feel about Biden accepting the presidency before the votes are certified? Your indignation seems a tad selective.

Let’s set the way back machine to 2016 and relive Russia Collusion also Sherm... er @MarcoVol

 

[MarcoVol]

So basically you want to cry about the outcome of others not agreeing to “stop resisting” without exhausting their legal provided venues. LMFAO that sounds like the definition of a waste of time

I see reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit.

Try again.

 

[MarcoVol]

How did you feel about Adam Schiff claiming proof of pee pee showers and Russian collusion on national TV without providing proof? How do you feel about Biden accepting the presidency before the votes are certified? Your indignation seems a tad selective.

We’ve been over this OC.

Biden accepted it bc the votes have been counted and *checks notes* it wasn’t close.

No amount of frivolous lawsuits or sham election fraud claims will overturn that.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You said the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor. That research implies otherwise. So move those goalposts at will I suppose.

Why does it matter if it has fallen out of favor?

Just because something is popular or supported by the majority, does that mean that it is the right thing to do?

 

[Rickyvol77]

A majority of Americans continue to favor replacing Electoral College with a nationwide popular vote

according to between 9 and 15 thousand people who actually answered the landlines and asked to be a part of a continuning political survey in 4 states LOL

 

[Orange_Crush]

You dodged defending your claim that the EC hasn’t fallen out of favor, but we both know you can’t defend it so we can move forward to something you can actually engage on without embarrassing yourself with some absurd justification.

Democracy is slow, but once the gerrymandered state legislatures have their feet held to the fire on this issue, especially if it starts to show up on party platforms, we very well may see that change. It might even happen in my lifetime.

He's been pretty clear, actually. He's being consistent to his point.

It takes an imagination to envision that the EC has fallen out of favor by as much as you think it has. And you’re doing the same implication dumbassery that Luther had done which I just replied to you on.

The lower population states won’t agree to diminish their voice willingly. They have the option at any time to enact state legislation to split their votes. To date only two do that.