2020 Presidential Race

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AM64 said:
Remember when VW diesels passed emissions tests with no problem ... and then somebody discovered that there was this little piece of code that turned emissions controls on and off depending on whether it was being tested or driven? Now if you ran a test like that and the machine couldn't tell real data from test data, and the system was locked down and couldn't be manipulated, then you might have something ... assuming there wasn't something in the machine that said "Aha, we're past 50,000 votes, it's not a test and adjusted the operating SW". There are too many ways to cheat with software; you have to know what it does line by line.
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There are several problems with this:
1. Emissions tests donā€™t have a paper ballot, GA elections do.
2. The person designing the software would need to know the number of votes cast in the county where the machine was to design this software to implement vote swapping after x ballots or
2b. They would need to know the number of test ballots used by the SOS, or
2c. The county/state in question would have to be without the technical expertise to run the machine without the machine knowing it was a test. Does Georgia have any reputable technical institutions that might be capable of deciding such a control test?
3. The counties where Biden picked up ground were generally smaller, red counties, some of which didnā€™t even have 50,000 votes. (That means more widespread and more easily detectable fraud. And also more difficulty in the built in on/off switch, if necessary.)
4. The results still have to amount to the number of people who actually voted.
5. The results have to be within reason for the historical and publicly available (see the county in MI that figured out that they had made a mistake because their county went hard blue).
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Reverse engineering malware has gotten progressively harder as malware tests its environments before running malicious code. So much so that there are specialty opensource projects designed to report how detectable sandboxes will be to malware.

Pafish is one example.
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I did a lot of testing in nuclear plants - most commonly for problems associated with things like flow induced vibration where there you really had to dig with analytical methods like Fast Fourier Transforms. I made sure that we recorded the data - often hours worth on magnetic tape recorders - frequency modulated full bandwidth - every sensor and other input parameter available - with logs to document conditions, etc. We could always reanalyze the data offline and look at the data in different ways. The one constant was the recorded data - that's like individual paper ballots in an election. You can always go back and recount or reanalyze if you faithfully preserve the raw data. If it's important, that's just what you do.
 
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volfanhill said:
You are surprised viewership is down when compared to election eve?

What I do find sad is people feeling like Fox wasnā€™t enough ā€œPro Trump.ā€ Not sad for Fox. Donā€™t care about them. Sad for humanity.
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I laughed at all of the Fox hate. I stated a couple of days ago if anything it should show they arenā€™t completely partisan. Fox not just ranting the party rhetoric is actually a good thing.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
There are several problems with this:
1. Emissions tests donā€™t have a paper ballot, GA elections do.
2. The person designing the software would need to know the number of votes cast in the county where the machine was to design this software to implement vote swapping after x ballots or
2b. They would need to know the number of test ballots used by the SOS, or
2c. The county/state in question would have to be without the technical expertise to run the machine without the machine knowing it was a test. Does Georgia have any reputable technical institutions that might be capable of deciding such a control test?
3. The counties where Biden picked up ground were generally smaller, red counties, some of which didnā€™t even have 50,000 votes. (That means more widespread and more easily detectable fraud. And also more difficulty in the built in on/off switch, if necessary.)
4. The results still have to amount to the number of people who actually voted.
5. The results have to be within reason for the historical and publicly available (see the county in MI that figured out that they had made a mistake because their county went hard blue).
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NorthDallas40 said:
What? Regardless fail stop floundering. An audit isnā€™t a damn design review. Go comment on stuff you have some idea on.

In addition to actual design reviews another common part of the delivery is FAI or First Article Inspection. That is an audit in every sense of the word. It in no way is any kind of a test.
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Lol. So in reality you have no idea what he means by ā€œaudit.ā€ Glad we cleared that up.

Alternative argument, since you canā€™t refute anything about that one without making unfounded assumptions:

Tell me about Georgia Tech? You think thereā€™s nobody there that can run a ā€œdesign reviewā€ (even though the Secretary of State didnā€™t call it that). The statement says they have a group from GT that helped with the audit.

The paper bag is now open at both ends. Surely an ā€œengineerā€ can find a way out of it.
 
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I'm afraid Ben Sasse may be betting on the wrong horse, at least in the short term. Hopefully he sticks to his convictions and doesn't back down.
 
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AM64 said:
I did a lot of testing in nuclear plants - most commonly for problems associated with things like flow induced vibration where there you really had to dig with analytical methods like Fast Fourier Transforms. I made sure that we recorded the data - often hours worth on magnetic tape recorders - frequency modulated full bandwidth - every sensor and other input parameter available - with logs to document conditions, etc. We could always reanalyze the data offline and look at the data in different ways. The one constant was the recorded data - that's like individual paper ballots in an election. You can always go back and recount or reanalyze if you faithfully preserve the raw data. If it's important, that's just what you do.
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If you haven't already, you'd LOVE a read on the Stuxnet malware.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Literally not even a week ago, I heard ad nauseam about how fraudulent mail-in votes were. Even the President proclaimed as much. Now that those have been proving demonstrably false, the story switches to the computers. Itā€™s all very convenient. Whatā€™s next? Mind-control drugs were administered during our COVID tests that made us vote for Biden?
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I think nothing has changed as far as mail in ballots. Unless there is complete transparency, nothing will will change. There should be complete vetting with the mail in ballots, and dominion.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Lol. So in reality you have no idea what he means by ā€œaudit.ā€ Glad we cleared that up.

Alternative argument, since you canā€™t refute anything about that one without making unfounded assumptions:

Tell me about Georgia Tech? You think thereā€™s nobody there that can run a ā€œdesign reviewā€ (even though the Secretary of State didnā€™t call it that). The statement says they have a group from GT that helped with the audit.

The paper bag is now open at both ends. Surely an ā€œengineerā€ can find a way out of it.
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Stop flailing and stick to your day job.

I know exactly what an audit is. And thatā€™s what they said they did.

Screw GA Tech take in the FBI forensics people they are the best in the world at that task.

And in fact bring that actual review on! Love the idea letā€™s get it done now!

BTW after getting a chassis from Ga Tech and their ā€œconfig dataā€ letā€™s not use them. Regardless no they cannot get to source code from compiled code or if they could itā€™s needless effort just go to the mfgr. config libraries. Stick to the day job
 
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AM64 said:
Remember when VW diesels passed emissions tests with no problem ... and then somebody discovered that there was this little piece of code that turned emissions controls on and off depending on whether it was being tested or driven? Now if you ran a test like that and the machine couldn't tell real data from test data, and the system was locked down and couldn't be manipulated, then you might have something ... assuming there wasn't something in the machine that said "Aha, we're past 50,000 votes, it's not a test and adjusted the operating SW". There are too many ways to cheat with software; you have to know what it does line by line.
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Also, Kudos for not relying on some cockamamie argument that assumes that the GA Sec. of State is using an engineering term of art instead of the colloquial meaning of the word audit. Itā€™s why included you in the original post.
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Their numbers are going to keep free falling.
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I am confident their numbers will be down tremendously all week compared to last. And I suspect they will struggle when compared to last year. Once Biden is in charge people will come back. Plus OAN is just one step removed from getting your news from Alex Jones.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Stop flailing and stick to your day job.

I know exactly what an audit is. And thatā€™s what they said they did.

Screw GA Tech take in the FBI forensics people they are the best in the world at that task.

And in fact bring that actual review on! Love the idea letā€™s get it done now!

BTW after getting a chassis from Ga Tech and their ā€œconfig dataā€ letā€™s not use them. Regardless no they cannot get to source code from compiled code or if they could itā€™s needless effort just go to the mfgr. config libraries. Stick to the day job
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Engineer fails to find a way out of a paper bag open at both ends.

Thereā€™s probably a planned obsolescence joke here, but those donā€™t usually refer to the engineer himself.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Engineer fails to find a way out of a paper bag open at both ends.

Thereā€™s probably a planned obsolescence joke here, but those donā€™t usually refer to the engineer himself.
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ā€œcounselorā€ falsely spiked the ball after getting out over his skis and crashing badly. Youā€™re dismissed come back when you have a valid argument.
 
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