2020 Presidential Race

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tnmarktx said:
It is what it is. He's like a rock star. I've long heard from libs that the country is becoming more progressive. That's completely wrong. There is a movement in this country and it doesn't seem to be going away. There will be widespread opposition to an illegitimate president if he gets in. Will it be a civil war? Will Trump supporters employ tactics that antifa has done? Who knows? If you get your news from the mainstream media, you're fooling yourself.
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Trump came in and suddenly we didn't have to bow down to the liberal idiots and their PC nonsense. It was a breath of fresh air after listening to all the leftist BS - like 31 sexual flavors, males needing tampons, and all the rest of the extraordinary stupidity flowing freely from the left.
 
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AM64 said:
Trump came in and suddenly we didn't have to bow down to the liberal idiots and their PC nonsense. It was a breath of fresh air after listening to all the leftist BS - like 31 sexual flavors, males needing tampons, and all the rest of the extraordinary stupidity flowing freely from the left.
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What did Trump do?
 
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tvolsfan said:
What did Trump do?
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More than anything Trump simply didn't legitimize all the idiocy that Obama and the left were gathering under the tent. Maybe they believed the nonsense and maybe they just wanted useful idiots for votes, but in the end it doesn't really make a difference. I'll have to say Hiliary and her "deplorable" comment was a huge boost to the right also.
 
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AM64 said:
More than anything Trump simply didn't legitimize all the idiocy that Obama and the left were gathering under the tent. Maybe they believed the nonsense and maybe they just wanted useful idiots for votes, but in the end it doesn't really make a difference. I'll have to say Hiliary and her "deplorable" comment was a huge boost to the right also.
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If nothing else he saved up from four years of that worthless Cankles and absolutely drove the Democrats bat **** crazy for four years providing some quality TV. After the most qualified candidate ever lost they weren’t going to work with anybody who robbed them of that so might as well have been Trump to draw their ire🤷‍♂️ Couple that with like 300 Federal Judge and 3 SCOTUS appts and it was a pretty damn remarkable term for not even being given a punchers chance of happening in the first place.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
If nothing else he saved up from four years of that worthless Cankles and absolutely drove the Democrats bat **** crazy for four years providing some quality TV. After the most qualified candidate ever lost they weren’t going to work with anybody who robbed them of that so might as well have been Trump to draw their ire🤷‍♂️ Couple that with like 300 Federal Judge and 3 SCOTUS appts and it was a pretty damn remarkable term for not even being given a punchers chance of happening in the first place.
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With all those judicial appointments and SCOTUS ones he should easily convince the courts of voter fraud right? Or is it going to be one of those things where he gets credit for it but we still bash the judiciary, to include SCOTUS, when they refuse to hear his nonsense claims that even his own AG says don't exist?
 
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volfanhill said:
With all those judicial appointments and SCOTUS ones he should easily convince the courts of voter fraud right? Or is it going to be one of those things where he gets credit for it but we still bash the judiciary, to include SCOTUS, when they refuse to hear his nonsense claims that even his own AG says don't exist?
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Lol. I think the judicial appointments are fairly solid and I’ll trust them to reach the correct conclusion under the law and the constitution if they are called on to do so😎
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Lol. I think the judicial appointments are fairly solid and I’ll trust them to reach the correct conclusion under the law and the constitution if they are called on to do so😎
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So then my hope ND is that if the judiciary says it's over you will agree it's over. You will accept that Biden is the rightfully elected POTUS.
 
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volfanhill said:
So then my hope ND is that if the judiciary says it's over you will agree it's over. You will accept that Biden is the rightfully elected POTUS.
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So I’ve not said anything other than let the process churn as to what is allowed (I think anyway). And once the EC vote is cast our process has spoken. Whatever bitter grapes result are wasted. Be it now... or four years ago.

I do think there is a BUNCH of head scratcher stuff on this one. The data patterns frankly just don’t seem mathematically probable. They just don’t. But... that isn’t evidence. And I’ll say it again once the EC vote tally is counted it’s over. If 270 is reached and I believe it will be reached time to move the hell on. Do you see anything in this post that isn’t consistent with what I’ve said before?
 
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tvolsfan said:
What did Trump do?
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Criminal justice reform. Fixed Biden backed crime bills that hurt African Americans. Low unemployment for minorities. Brokered mideast peace deals. First president in ages that didn't get us into any new wars. Brought most of the troops home. Secured funding for historical black colleges. USMCA, which beat the hell out of NAFTA.
 
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tnmarktx said:
Criminal justice reform. Fixed Biden backed crime bills that hurt African Americans. Low unemployment for minorities. Brokered mideast peace deals. First president in ages that didn't get us into any new wars. Brought most of the troops home. Secured funding for historical black colleges. USMCA, which beat the hell out of NAFTA.
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Well, I was talking about what Trump did to save us from the PC mob, but I’m pretty confident Trump couldn’t tell us the difference between USMCA and NAFTA.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Dems are the party of defund the police, BLM, Antifa, socialism, radicals like Bernie, Harris, and AOC, transgender lunacy, and literally assaulted Kavanaugh with fake accusations in order to attempt to ruin his life and derail his court appointment and it's the republicans who are radical? Give me a break.
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No you give me a break.
You just compared reps of districts (agreed crazy) chanting a slogan, against the POTUS trying to forego democratic elections.
I would remove Pelosi if had the vote.
But I watched other dems at the top denounce that radicalism. VS 95% of the "new right" sit quietly or much worse, become accomplices.

Radicals running their mouths protesting, VS a 3rd world attempt at strong man, authoritarian take over of the United States. If Obama etc., were demanding loyalists replace state electors, you guys would have the guns loaded, screaming treason.
But you're fine with it as long as it's a Repu... scam artist, pretending to be a Republican. At least for this decade.
I will ALWAYS put country over party. And not pretend district Reps are a bigger deal than the president and leaders of the Senate, out of hyper partisanship.
Or that the *most* radical action in modern US history, is somehow OK, as long as there's an R beside their names.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So I’ve not said anything other than let the process churn as to what is allowed (I think anyway). And once the EC vote is cast our process has spoken. Whatever bitter grapes result are wasted. Be it now... or four years ago.

I do think there is a BUNCH of head scratcher stuff on this one. The data patterns frankly just don’t seem mathematically probable. They just don’t. But... that isn’t evidence. And I’ll say it again once the EC vote tally is counted it’s over. If 270 is reached and I believe it will be reached time to move the hell on. Do you see anything in this post that isn’t consistent with what I’ve said before?
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It’s also reasonable to continue to point out what a cluster flub this election was in an effort to reform the process. We went in the wrong direction after 2016. Time to correct those errors. Because now that it’s been shown how easy it is to attack the voting system then you can guarantee that someone will in 2024
 
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chargervol said:
No you give me a break.
You just compared reps of districts (agreed crazy) chanting a slogan, against the POTUS trying to forego democratic elections.
I would remove Pelosi if had the vote.
But I watched other dems at the top denounce that radicalism. VS 95% of the "new right" sit quietly or much worse, become accomplices.

Radicals running their mouths protesting, VS a 3rd world attempt at strong man, authoritarian take over of the United States. If Obama etc., were demanding loyalists replace state electors, you guys would have the guns loaded, screaming treason.
But you're fine with it as long as it's a Repu... scam artist, pretending to be a Republican. At least for this decade.
I will ALWAYS put country over party. And not pretend district Reps are a bigger deal than the president and leaders of the Senate, out of hyper partisanship.
Or that the *most* radical action in modern US history, is somehow OK, as long as there's an R beside their names.
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As I said earlier:

Except Harris, you know, the democrat VP, would support every single thing I said, and has in the past. She even bailed out Antifa radicals who were destroying property. Show me where I'm wrong about her supporting those things and I'll admit that it is pure rhetoric. She is the VP, not some lunatic fringe of the party. She is the lunatic who is VP in the party. Joe would support everything I said except, maybe, for antifa that he once referred to as "an idea" and defund the police.
 
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chargervol said:
No you give me a break.
You just compared reps of districts (agreed crazy) chanting a slogan, against the POTUS trying to forego democratic elections.
I would remove Pelosi if had the vote.
But I watched other dems at the top denounce that radicalism. VS 95% of the "new right" sit quietly or much worse, become accomplices.

Radicals running their mouths protesting, VS a 3rd world attempt at strong man, authoritarian take over of the United States. If Obama etc., were demanding loyalists replace state electors, you guys would have the guns loaded, screaming treason.
But you're fine with it as long as it's a Repu... scam artist, pretending to be a Republican. At least for this decade.
I will ALWAYS put country over party. And not pretend district Reps are a bigger deal than the president and leaders of the Senate, out of hyper partisanship.
Or that the *most* radical action in modern US history, is somehow OK, as long as there's an R beside their names.
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You probably watch only state run media. There is systematic fraud in this election statistical impossibilities alone are proof. Is the theft of an election reason enough to "load your guns"? There's never been a time in my life like this to consider it.
 
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chargervol said:
No you give me a break.
You just compared reps of districts (agreed crazy) chanting a slogan, against the POTUS trying to forego democratic elections.
I would remove Pelosi if had the vote.
But I watched other dems at the top denounce that radicalism. VS 95% of the "new right" sit quietly or much worse, become accomplices.

Radicals running their mouths protesting, VS a 3rd world attempt at strong man, authoritarian take over of the United States. If Obama etc., were demanding loyalists replace state electors, you guys would have the guns loaded, screaming treason.
But you're fine with it as long as it's a Repu... scam artist, pretending to be a Republican. At least for this decade.
I will ALWAYS put country over party. And not pretend district Reps are a bigger deal than the president and leaders of the Senate, out of hyper partisanship.
Or that the *most* radical action in modern US history, is somehow OK, as long as there's an R beside their names.
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so you will stand up against a National mask mandate?
Bidens racist gun tax bill that’s a direct assault oN the constitution? (9th circuit has already ruled it so)
The calls from Democrats to eliminate the EC by Ex Order (another direct assult on the constitution)

Or are you going to pretend this Trump guy is somehow new in his assault on liberty because he’s a schmuck?

right now most of the guys on the right (on VN) are saying let it play out in court. If you don’t see some real head scratching problems with what happened in this election then you’ve got partisan blinders on
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
As I said earlier:

Except Harris, you know, the democrat VP, would support every single thing I said, and has in the past. She even bailed out Antifa radicals who were destroying property. Show me where I'm wrong about her supporting those things and I'll admit that it is pure rhetoric. She is the VP, not some lunatic fringe of the party. She is the lunatic who is VP in the party. Joe would support everything I said except, maybe, for antifa that he once referred to as "an idea" and defund the police.
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Joe is a liar.
He says he supports the 2a then proposed a racist Gun tax bill.

I fail to understand how anyone can take that racist POS seriously. Just off the top of my head.....

called the bankers “Shylock”
Was Impressed at how clean and well spoken Obama is
“If you don’t know the difference.......you ain’t black
“Poor kids are as smart as white kids”
Integration of schools is bring them too the jungle.
Has been accused of not wanting black SS agents assigned to him.

Edit: I forgot “I’ve had a great relationship. In Delaware, the largest growth in population is Indian-Americans moving from India. You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking,”

And

during a virtual campaign event that Trump is wrong to hold China accountable for the COVID-19 because Americans aren’t able to distinguish “between a South Korean and someone from Beijing.”
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
As I said earlier:

Except Harris, you know, the democrat VP, would support every single thing I said, and has in the past. She even bailed out Antifa radicals who were destroying property. Show me where I'm wrong about her supporting those things and I'll admit that it is pure rhetoric. She is the VP, not some lunatic fringe of the party. She is the lunatic who is VP in the party. Joe would support everything I said except, maybe, for antifa that he once referred to as "an idea" and defund the police.
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On Biden, don't like debating imagined hypotheticals. But the radical left didn't want him to start with, and have been angered by everything from picks to policies. Hardly proof that he belongs in that group.

But all that is completely irrelevant. Stating things certain dems support (that I also oppose) does not justify the actual president leading the attack on the most fundamental basis of the United States.

And bass, you know that some of the loyalist appointments to security positions, are reckless at best and down right dangerous at worst. "Others being able to stop them" doesn't make it ok.

People here are trying to argue like the things I mentioned are right vs left. Everything I mentioned is completely anti conservative.
People with an R beside their names committing the acts, doesn't change that.
 
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