2020 Presidential Race

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volfanhill said:
I don't see how they think they have standing. We don't conduct national election for POTUS. It's a series of state elections. GA can't tell Texas how to do elections in their state. Also think it will be funny when the Justices ask hey didn't Texas do the same thing they are accusing these states of doing (they did. Governor by passed state legislators to change early voting deadline) and then ask shouldn't we then toss your results as well?
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For all other Federal elections, you are probably right, even if technically the US house and Senate makeup certainly have affect on all state residents. But in case of the Presidency, the argument may have standing the state of Tx (not merely the voters) is directly aggrieved if the 4 states are allowed to essentially not follow the rules (equal protection clause), while Texas is. A presidency is the one office that ALL states vote on in a Federal election.

If TX did the same thing on the rules by changing rules of deadlines when State law requires only legislature to change it then indeed, another state could bring that case. Noone will bring the case because TX is GOP legislature tho.

But one item especially is that you cannot have unequal application of the law or rules, ie signature verification in this county but not this one, or for in person voting but not for mail in, when and where the law requires equal application. That is the big bugabear that will be very hard to get around IMO.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Hate to break it to, but Trump isn't a true conservative
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I'm referring to conservatives standing up and fighting on this election. It is not about standing up for Trump as the Dems claim, it is for our democracy and fear of current Dem party.
It just happens that Trump is the President of the Republican party.
 
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1972 Grad said:
From my point of view, we need to believe that our elections are legit. If my side loses in a fair election, it loses, and I'm okay with that.
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Thats reasonable, yet absent proven fraud, states are acting as if it has been proven and are planning to change the very rules that these lawmakers were elected under.

It all comes down to Trump's throwing fraud spaghetti against the walls. He and his lawyers created this distrust.
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Who's called you any of those things? I get why you like Trump. You play the victim as pathetically and cowardly as Trump himself
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Have you not been reading these posts, and the MSM? I am big boy but have been called stupid, ignorant, and dumb. Just like above you called me a pathetic coward. Now lets see how you are going to spin that and say you did not. Not that you would but don't bother apologizing.
Not playing victim card at all, you can't be so naive not to think conservatives are not being called those things.
You may not be following that attentively because I have stated on here several times I'm not a Trump guy.
 
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Stew Cook said:
Thats reasonable, yet absent proven fraud, states are acting as if it has been proven and are planning to change the very rules that these lawmakers were elected under.

It all comes down to Trump's throwing fraud spaghetti against the walls. He and his lawyers created this distrust.
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A lot of signed affidavits from a lot of different people. Hard for me to ignore. You would feel the same if you had an ounce of objectivity.
 
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Gandalf said:
For all other Federal elections, you are probably right, even if technically the US house and Senate makeup certainly have affect on all state residents. But in case of the Presidency, the argument may have standing the state of Tx (not merely the voters) is directly aggrieved if the 4 states are allowed to essentially not follow the rules (equal protection clause), while Texas is. A presidency is the one office that ALL states vote on in a Federal election.

If TX did the same thing on the rules by changing rules of deadlines when State law requires only legislature to change it then indeed, another state could bring that case. Noone will bring the case because TX is GOP legislature tho.

But one item especially is that you cannot have unequal application of the law or rules, ie signature verification in this county but not this one, or for in person voting but not for mail in, when and where the law requires equal application. That is the big bugabear that will be very hard to get around IMO.
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Texas lengthened the window in the front of early voting but they retained the back end deadlines. This was done by Governor executive order in July. The defendant states are free to contest their choice to do that in their answer of course.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
She was already stripped of all of her committees and they are exploring other punitive actions. She will regret making that video if she already doesn’t.
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I doubt she regrets it. I'm sure she was shaken by the threats she received, but she her the message to those who would do her harm.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Has nothing to do with Trump. It has to do with the integrity of all of our elections going forward.
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It certainly has something to do with Trump - but at the same time, it is much bigger. IF the elections can be rigged like many believe that they were, there is no reason to believe that the upcoming 2 state senate seats in GA would fare any different. Thus we have become a banana republic when the elections are no longer legitimate.

If any of you think that all these little paid protesting BLM activists and pzzy hat wearing bunch are frightening in riots, you have no IDEA what will happen if the real core of America's heartland truly believes that all elections are a sham and that there is no other means to remedy but through armed insurrection. If there are no longer any real elections, there is no reason to obey any laws of those who rule, etc. because they are not made by those who are elected. The social contract is broken and the ruled will no longer consent to be ruled over. That is NOT a place we want to go.
 
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1972 Grad said:
A lot of signed affidavits from a lot of different people. Hard for me to ignore. You would feel the same if you had an ounce of objectivity.
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Sure, Powell and Rudy set up a hotline to try to prove fraud, and ran with whatever they received.

I've asked people to post their most convincing affidavits, and I've not seen much.

Strange thing is that these affidavits are touted, but conspicuously absent from court filings.
 
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