2020 Presidential Race

[titansvolsfaninga]

Just cut off the TVs.

That is so sad.....how did he get elected again? The economic anxiety crowd?

 

[hog88]

I'm thinking about starting a tweeter account just to see how many tweets I can get Velo and El to post here.

 

[zeppelin128]

Who could blame him?

I don't really care one way or the other where he rides out his last days in office. He already mentioned back before the election he probably wouldn't go to the Inauguration if he lost, so no requirement for him to hang out in DC.

 

[carlos86]

You realize that questioning the legitimacy of a state election is not the same as questioning the electoral college, right?

If there is voter fraud the same fraud would simply carry over to a popular voting system.

Still waiting for factual proof of voter fraud and not Trump proof.

 

[zeppelin128]

I'm thinking about starting a tweeter account just to see how many tweets I can get Velo and El to post here.

lol

 

[carlos86]

Just cut off the TVs.

There’s a rumor going around that Trump plans to fly to Scotland on Jan 19th.

 

[Rickyvol77]

That's hilarious. You can't be serious. There's like 6 left leaners here and everyone else is a proud boy.

How can you say this with a straight face

 

[clarksvol00]

There’s a rumor going around that Trump plans to fly to Scotland on Jan 19th.

Scottish paper sparks speculation Trump is headed to Turnberry to avoid inauguration

 

[NEO]

Still waiting for factual proof of voter fraud and not Trump proof.

Don't move the goal post.

This wasn't your comment or what I responded to.

 

[NEO]

You are correct. I meant most Democratic politicians.

We agree.

But this means the Democrat party is already further left than most actual Democrats.

 

[AshG]

They aren't fractured, they are all communists.

I thought they were socialists? Or Marxists? I don't know anymore, I can't keep up with the label du jour. May as well just say they all got crooked teeth and their feet are too big.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Scottish paper sparks speculation Trump is headed to Turnberry to avoid inauguration

First stop Scotland, final destination Moscow.

 

[AM64]

I thought they were socialists? Or Marxists? I don't know anymore, I can't keep up with the label du jour. May as well just say they all got crooked teeth and their feet are too big.

Well their (the dems) mouths are too big and their brains are too small, so there's that.

 

[1972 Grad]

First stop Scotland, final destination Moscow.

Moscow, Maine?

 

[Y9 Vol]

There’s a rumor going around that Trump plans to fly to Scotland on Jan 19th.

Great golf there.

 

[carlos86]

Don't move the goal post.

This wasn't your comment or what I responded to.

 

[NEO]

Again not what you were discussing when I responded.

You were specifically discussing the dissolution of the electoral college.

 

[Vol737]

After Obama won in 2008, everyone said the GOP was finished. Then they won in the following midterms. After Trump won and the GOP had the legislative branch, everyone said the Democratic party was dead. Dems then won the House and closed the gap in the Senate in the following midterms. Now we have PE Biden. Happens after every election, and it is always a wrong hot take from political pundits.

Yep, and if you look back far enough, I’ve seen that trend being the case since Clinton won in 92. I’m fine with a balance of power. Both sides tend to jack it up when they have both the legislative and executive branch.

 

[clarksvol00]

Great golf there.

Pretty sweet job. Get fired and get a free flight to a golf weekend the day before you're terminated. Seriously though, I assume the weather there is pretty terrible in the middle of January.

 

[clarksvol00]

First stop Scotland, final destination Moscow.

Waiting to see what a NY grand jury will do?

 

[Vol737]

That is so sad.....how did he get elected again? The economic anxiety crowd?

No, the Hillary was a completely s**tty candidate theory.

 

[zeppelin128]

We agree.

But this means the Democrat party is already further left than most actual Democrats.

I don't think it is a secret that moderate and center-left folks are concerned about the party going way too far left. But one thing to consider is that Bernie was resoundingly crushed in the primaries in favor for the more moderate Biden. The problem is that the fringe of the Democratic Party is really damn loud. And they have received a lot of pushback from liberals and moderates because of their bs purity tests. The Democratic Party only works as a big tent. The Far Left either fails to realize that or doesn't give a damn.

 

[WBO]

You can't read the difference between offline and online? Since all states vote in a presidential election it should most likely be handled federally. I guess if you want to cheat in your state for the down ballot, continue cheating.

First off, you're right I went full illiterate there with online vs offline..

The real issue is that you can't mandate this voting methodology from the federal level without a change to the Constitution. Right now, as angry as everyone is, I don't see 2/3 of Congress (both houses individually) and 2/3 of the states agreeing to anything.

And there is no way there is going to be a Constitutional Convention (the other alternative for amending the Constitution) because once convened it can pass any amendment it wants. No way the NRA/ AARP/ Pro Choice/ Pro Life is taking that chance.

You're blocked either way.

Personally I would like to see a change eliminating the Electoral College in favor of the popular vote totals. One man/ one vote.

 

[clarksvol00]

First off, you're right I went full illiterate there with online vs offline..

The real issue is that you can't mandate this voting methodology from the federal level without a change to the Constitution. Right now, as angry as everyone is, I don't see 2/3 of Congress (both houses individually) and 2/3 of the states agreeing to anything.

And there is no way there is going to be a Constitutional Convention (the other alternative for amending the Constitution) because once convened it can pass any amendment it wants. No way the NRA/ AARP/ Pro Choice/ Pro Life is taking that chance.

You're blocked either way.

Personally I would like to see a change eliminating the Electoral College in favor of the popular vote totals. One man/ one vote.

Based on some earlier posts I think the red hats are moving towards one county/one vote.

 

[1972 Grad]

Based on some earlier posts I think the red hats are moving towards one county/one vote.

That's a great idea! Why didn't I think of that?