2020 Presidential Race

[luthervol]

I see this statement all the time and I strongly disagree. What killed Hillary was that she was an uninspiring corporate neoliberal candidate who alienated her progressive base (which is far larger than people assume). If we have another centrist candidate that tries to convince moderate white people who have “trump fatigue” rather than a candidate who can inspire the base, it will be 2016 all over again. Trump won because he got people excited and out to vote.

I can't conceive of a progressive (which I consider myself to be) sitting out the election with full knowledge that by doing so, they increase the chances of 4 more years of Trump. I would take a centrist any day, every day over Trump.

If Warren,Sanders,Booker,Harris etc.. can not only win the nomination but win a general election then I will know the country I once loved is lost and no longer worth saving.

Welcome to my 2016. But I still find it worth saving. Now should Trump win in 2020, that would be the proverbial nail in the coffin.

 

[volfanjustin]

I can't conceive of a progressive (which I consider myself to be) sitting out the election with full knowledge that by doing so, they increase the chances of 4 more years of Trump. I would take a centrist any day, every day over Trump.

Welcome to my 2016. But I still find it worth saving. Now should Trump win in 2020, that would be the proverbial nail in the coffin.

Yeah sucks having a pro America President.

 

[tvolsfan]

So you are advocating for one of the admitted socialist to get the nomination? You think they are going to get middle class working people to turn out and vote for them?

Other than Bernie, who confuses social democracy with democratic socialism, which candidates are admitted socialists?

 

[volfanjustin]

Other than Bernie, who confuses social democracy with democratic socialism, which candidates are admitted socialists?

Just about all of them admit to it by the policies they push.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I can't conceive of a progressive (which I consider myself to be) sitting out the election with full knowledge that by doing so, they increase the chances of 4 more years of Trump. I would take a centrist any day, every day over Trump.

Welcome to my 2016. But I still find it worth saving. Now should Trump win in 2020, that would be the proverbial nail in the coffin.

Hopefully the nail is in the coffin of your party.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Other than Bernie, who confuses social democracy with democratic socialism, which candidates are admitted socialists?

Admitted?

 

[Hunerwadel]

Ok, your guy wants to “redistribute “ wealth to ****ers that haven’t earned it and you’ve been quite vocal in regards to socialist policies and you don’t see the irony in that statement ?

Like farmers?

 

[tvolsfan]

Just about all of them admit to it by the policies they push.

That’s what I thought. No real answer.

 

[volfanjustin]

That’s what I thought. No real answer.

I answered, not my problem you can't comprehend the answer

 

[tvolsfan]

I answered, not my problem you can't comprehend the answer

I asked for which other candidates admitted to being socialist. You responded with your typical delusional screeching, once again making it clear you have a poor grasp of the subject.

 

[37L1]

I asked for which other candidates admitted to being socialist. You responded with your typical delusional screeching, once again making it clear you have a poor grasp of the subject.

They don't admit it, except for Bernie, the rest just propose socialist programs.

Walk like a duck. . . .

 

[Persian Vol]

Just about all of them admit to it by the policies they push.

Completely false.

 

[37L1]

Completely false.

Prove it if you are so "completely" sure.

 

[0nelilreb]

I can't conceive of a progressive (which I consider myself to be) sitting out the election with full knowledge that by doing so, they increase the chances of 4 more years of Trump. I would take a centrist any day, every day over Trump.

A centrist is exactly how you could beat Trump . Someone with a good workable platform that’s calm cool and collected . You just don’t have one . They have to pander to the far left or get left behind .

 

[tvolsfan]

Prove it if you are so "completely" sure.

Elizabeth Warren said she’s capitalist to the bone. So that is literally proves she’s not an “admitted” socialist, and she’s known for being on the left of the group.

 

[tvolsfan]

A centrist is exactly how you could beat Trump . Someone with a good workable platform that’s calm cool and collected . You just don’t have one . They have to pander to the far left or get left behind .

Making this election a referendum on Trump is how democrats beat Trump.

 

[37L1]

Elizabeth Warren said she’s capitalist to the bone. So that is literally proves she’s not an “admitted” socialist, and she’s known for being on the left of the group.

She speaks with forked tongue.

 

[0nelilreb]

Making this election a referendum on Trump is how democrats beat Trump.

Been there done that .... 0-1 is the count .

 

[37L1]

Making this election a referendum on Trump is how democrats beat Trump.

That's a bold move, Cotton.

 

[Persian Vol]

Prove it if you are so "completely" sure.

What specifically are these “socialist” policies? And what specific candidates are pushing for them?

 

[Persian Vol]

A centrist is exactly how you could beat Trump . Someone with a good workable platform that’s calm cool and collected . You just don’t have one . They have to pander to the far left or get left behind .

Joe Biden is as centrist as it gets.

 

[37L1]

What specifically are these “socialist” policies? And what specific candidates are pushing for them?

Free stuff paid for by the Government (taxpayers).

You know the list.

 

[0nelilreb]

Joe Biden is as centrist as it gets.

Joe Biden is falling all over himself and can’t stop . We haven’t even made it to the hard part yet . What do you think he will do when the heat is turned up ?

 

[Persian Vol]

Free stuff paid for by the Government (taxpayers).

You know the list.

Very specific.

 

[Persian Vol]

Joe Biden is falling all over himself and can’t stop . We haven’t even made it to the hard part yet . What do you think he will do when the heat is turned up ?

Crash and burn because he is a terrible candidate?