2020 Presidential Race

[Orange_Crush]

Good. Somebody just became a millionaire. I’m happy for him.

Check my edit. I added a link.

 

[OldVolMan]

Because logically it doesn’t make sense. The post in question was done yesterday. 24 hours of this “undeniable proof” and no word of it anywhere. Let’s assume the MSM is implicit, so they wouldn’t cover it anyway. But what about OANN? NewsMax? Those are pro-Trump. Why haven’t they picked it up? so far, literally the only place it’s shown up is a former reddit sub that was banned. Not even quarantined. Just banned outright.

Current Election Update: Trump Ahead with Most States, Most EC Votes and Most Legitimate Votes In History - Biden Committing Greatest Fraud Ever

 

[loggervol]

Same could be said for Trump.

Higher taxes, lost jobs and a phase out of fossil fuels and many more socialist agendas. What’s not to love?

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Check my edit. I added a link.

Your chronology is off. TheDonald.win got the story from the Gateway Pundit. Which only further strengthens my point. It’s been 24 hours, and so far the only group that has picked it up is a banned subreddit.

 

[loggervol]

They have picked up on it. I found it on one of the conservative media sites.

ETA: BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems

No proof

 

[luthervol]

Fact check: President Trump uses out of context video to spread false information about mail-in voting - CNNPolitics

Facts First: This is the latest false insinuation -- and another baseless claim -- of mail-in voting fraud by Trump. The suggestion by the President is that the video shows ballots being collected in California a week after the election. But the video, originally posted on November 4, shows workers collecting legally cast ballots from a ballot box that the LA County Registrar says had been locked since election night.

I can't decide it it's humorous or just simply sad.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Your chronology is off. TheDonald.win got the story from the Gateway Pundit. Which only further strengthens my point. It’s been 24 hours, and so far the only group that has picked it up is a banned subreddit.

No. It's not. This is a comment from theDonald.win article after it had been up a while. The Gateway Pundit got it from them.

bekkiluvsit

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FELLOW PEDES, I SENT THIS TO THE GATEWAY PUNDIT AND THEY PUBLISHED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Analysis of Election Night Data from All States Shows MILLIONS OF VOTES Either Switched from President Trump to Biden or Were Lost -- Using Dominion and Other Systems

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[GoBigOrangeUT]

No. It's not. This is a comment from theDonald.win article after it had been up a while. The Gateway Pundit got it from them.

The guy who did it took it straight to Bannon and he wouldn’t hear any of it. That’s odd for a person to do that when they are looking for widespread fraud.

 

[loggervol]

Fact check: President Trump uses out of context video to spread false information about mail-in voting - CNNPolitics

Facts First: This is the latest false insinuation -- and another baseless claim -- of mail-in voting fraud by Trump. The suggestion by the President is that the video shows ballots being collected in California a week after the election. But the video, originally posted on November 4, shows workers collecting legally cast ballots from a ballot box that the LA County Registrar says had been locked since election night.

I can't decide it it's humorous or just simply sad.

They hadn’t been collected but they were legal ballots? And we’re supposed to just believe the person that said it was locked?

 

[Orange_Crush]

Yes, Short Bus! You are trying to spread viral disinformation concerning the Dominion voting systems following the Michigan snafu. That has been debunked all over the place, including by The New York Times.

Google "No, Dominion Voting Machines Did Not Cause Widespread Voting Problems - The New York Times".

You special needs children will believe any unsupported thing you see on a right wing site, as long as it helps Trump.

You care to weigh back in, good sir?

 

[loggervol]

You care to weigh back in, good sir?

LMAO

 

[Orange_Crush]

The guy who did it took it straight to Bannon and he wouldn’t hear any of it. That’s odd for a person to do that when they are looking for widespread fraud.

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I'm beginning to question your motives in this conversation. The comment doesn't say that he took it to Bannon and Bannon refused to see it, as you claimed. It said he was unable to connect with Bannon.

You know, you don't have to discuss or entertain this. Just ignoring it would be a better look than misrepresenting things in attempts to explain it away.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

I'm beginning to question your motives in this conversation. The comment doesn't say that he took it to Bannon and Bannon refused to see it, as you claimed. It said he was unable to connect with Bannon.

You know, you don't have to discuss or entertain this. Just ignoring it would be a better look than misrepresenting things in attempts to explain it away.

You don’t think they would have funneled this right up to the top? It would be the golden goose. Trump would win the election and prove his theory of a deep state right. And Trump loves being the winner. Again, people are offering millions of dollars, hotlines are set up. Do you think this guy just did all of this work and didn’t share it with anyone except the Gateway Pundit?

 

[volfanhill]

Lol


Military voters included on Trump campaign list of 'improperly cast' ballots: reports

 

[BenGrimm]

No, they aren’t, a absentee ballot is a ballot that the person has asked for and showed or given proof of who he is. Mail in ballots, anyone could’ve received them. No proof of registration or that the person is actually still alive.

Thank you for playing though.

FFS... do you really think they look different? Or are processed different?

Let me walk you through this since it is clear you only listened to Trump’s false claims.

There are 5 states that have been doing vote by mail exclusively for the last several years (Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington). Due to the pandemic a few states followed suite (California, Nevada, New Jersey, Vermont plus Washington, D.C.). These states send ballots to REGISTERED voters. The ballot was specifically tied to that person’s registration. They were not blank ballots that just get filled out by whoever happened to open the mail. Both groups already had protocol in place to ensure that a registered voter only votes once. For those that just initiated it due to the pandemic, it was the same protocol used for “absentee” ballots.

Every other state required some type of action. A few states sent out APPLICATIONS for “absentee” ballots that required the voter take some action. While other states, such as TN, left it up to people to request the APPLICATION then return it to get a ballot.

For example: I voted “absentee” in TN. All it required as “proof” was a form that I filled out with my SS, mailing address and signature. I took a picture of the form with my phone and emailed it to them. That was it. No copy of my ID or anything else was required.

Now here is where the difference stops. The so-called “absentee” ballot and the “mail-in” ballot are EXACTLY the same. They both have the same mailing envelope. The same secrecy envelope. And a sticker that ties that ballot to the registered voter. Once they are dropped in the mail they are processed the exact same way by each state’s protocol for votes that came in by mail.

Hope that helps you understand the lack of difference between “absentee” and “mail in”.

 

[Orange_Crush]

You don’t think they would have funneled this right up to the top? It would be the golden goose. Trump would win the election and prove his theory of a deep state right. And Trump loves being the winner. Again, people are offering millions of dollars, hotlines are set up. Do you think this guy just did all of this work and didn’t share it with anyone except the Gateway Pundit?

Let me try to be as clear as possible.

I
don't
know
!

All I know is the data I've checked checks out, and no one will be able to convince me that there weren't multiple occasions of Trump votes being given to Biden, in multiple states, just from spot checks. That's the extent of what I know, except for what it would mean if this were true.

If this is all true, I'm not convinced that Trump didn't know all along. I've said for a while that I wonder if this isn't all a sting to give the deep state rope to hang themselves, embroil the Dems, and make the case for voter reform.

But I won't speak as to whether the originator got to Bannon, could get to Bannon, has gotten to Bannon...

Trump has been promising a huge surprise to prove he's won the election in the coming days/week. Maybe this is it. Again, I don't know.

What I do know is it looks like you're struggling with this enough that your last two claims about it have been blatant misrepresentations.

So, let me be clear one last time.

The totality of the claims may or may not be true. I don't know. I don't have any insight into Bannon or anyone else. What I've tested has proven true. No one can deny that the data shows Trump votes being given to Biden 10s of 1000s at a time. If time allows, I hope to write my own analysis in the coming days.

Do with that as you please. I won't waste any more of my time being your sounding board trying to build a plausable denial of it. You do with it as you see fit.

 

[golfballs]

This is Biden’s chief of staff

 

[volinbham]

This is Biden’s chief of staff

 

[McDad]

This is Biden’s chief of staff

But only for House elections, I guess. 2014

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

Trump’s election challenge looks like a scam to line his pockets : politics

 

[Ashevolle]

Trump’s election challenge looks like a scam to line his pockets : politics

Ding ding ding. Why stop fleecing his supporters just because the writing is on the wall?

 

[volinbham]

But only for House elections, I guess. 2014

Yep, of course!

The Vox piece is about how politicians in power control the rules and gerrymander to remain in power. Hard to imagine that there's a magic dividing line whereby this only relates to Congressional and state/local elections.

Similar to the spate of articles from the NYTimes about voter fraud in mail and absentee ballots (2012 when one of theirs might suffer). If it's in the system, it's in the system. No race nor party is immune to using the tools.

Looking forward to how Klain parses this out - oh who am I kidding, no press member will ask him about it.

 

[loggervol]

FFS... do you really think they look different? Or are processed different?

Let me walk you through this since it is clear you only listened to Trump’s false claims.

There are 5 states that have been doing vote by mail exclusively for the last several years (Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Utah, and Washington). Due to the pandemic a few states followed suite (California, Nevada, New Jersey, Vermont plus Washington, D.C.). These states send ballots to REGISTERED voters. The ballot was specifically tied to that person’s registration. They were not blank ballots that just get filled out by whoever happened to open the mail. Both groups already had protocol in place to ensure that a registered voter only votes once. For those that just initiated it due to the pandemic, it was the same protocol used for “absentee” ballots.

Every other state required some type of action. A few states sent out APPLICATIONS for “absentee” ballots that required the voter take some action. While other states, such as TN, left it up to people to request the APPLICATION then return it to get a ballot.

For example: I voted “absentee” in TN. All it required as “proof” was a form that I filled out with my SS, mailing address and signature. I took a picture of the form with my phone and emailed it to them. That was it. No copy of my ID or anything else was required.

Now here is where the difference stops. The so-called “absentee” ballot and the “mail-in” ballot are EXACTLY the same. They both have the same mailing envelope. The same secrecy envelope. And a sticker that ties that ballot to the registered voter. Once they are dropped in the mail they are processed the exact same way by each state’s protocol for votes that came in by mail.

Hope that helps you understand the lack of difference between “absentee” and “mail in”.

So 5 states sent out ballots to


To registered voters, that’s still the difference. They have proof on file of the person’s identity. And, I’m sure there is still a verification that has to take place. And they had to be on file. Because of of the probability of fraud. Right?

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Biden’s covid advisor already talking about a 4-6 week national lockdown. Lockdowns are proven to be ineffective. But it doesn’t matter. Biden is about to tank the economy so that he can pretend to have ended covid. Great vote guys. Good job

 

[loggervol]

This is Biden’s chief of staff

This can’t be right..???