2022 Recruits

[VA_VOLFAN]

Just my opinion, but in college her deep shots will likely need to start higher and get off quicker. There isn’t any question college defenders will force her to do those 2 things.

I agree being 6’4” should help… also she is gonna drag the defense WAYYYY out so that’ll help too! But i agree

 

[Voluble2]

Just my opinion, but in college her deep shots will likely need to start higher and get off quicker. There isn’t any question college defenders will force her to do those 2 things.

That is obvious, but when I brought it up on the board several months back people pretended to have fainting spells and acted like it was a personal attack. It was ridiculous.

The release point is too far in front of her as well, which makes it easier to defend. But I haven't seen her recently so I can't say if she has changed it any. Darth says she shot closer to 25% on threes in the tournament, which would be really bad if that were true so you have to wonder if she was having trouble getting her shot off and if defenders weren't giving her time and space to get in rhythm like she is used to.

Someone needs to post her high school stats to give more data.

 

[Darth_Vol]

I sure hope she’s not a Kortney!! Kortney was probably one of the biggest flops in LV history! She was purported to be an exquisite shooter yet had the following career stats:
FG: 38%
3-Pt FG: 32%
FT: 50%.

In addition to her offensive ineptitude, she was a HUGE liability on defense!

That's actually better than what Pissott shot in this tournament...

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

That is obvious, but when I brought it up on the board several months back people pretended to have fainting spells and acted like it was a personal attack. It was ridiculous.

The release point is too far in front of her as well, which makes it easier to defend. But I haven't seen her recently so I can't say if she has changed it any. Darth says she shot closer to 25% on threes in the tournament, which would be really bad if that were true so you have to wonder if she was having trouble getting her shot off and if defenders weren't giving her time and space to get in rhythm like she is used to.

Someone needs to post her high school stats to give more data.

Have at it my friend… Those are a complete set of HS stats. you can look at total stats so far then break it down year by year. This past year she got covid which is a reason for a lower number of games played and covid itself impacted schedules

Justine def didn’t have the best shooting at this tourney. She is a good free throw shooter but will need to drive more to get to the line. She also can reel in her distance and that will help. There are posters who want to gloat her shooting was off and then circle that back to Kellie’s best recruit and being terrible blah blah blah. So if you you’re going off of that then you missed the other tourneys this summer where she won MVP against tough completion

Not sunshine pumping just bringing it ALL up. Oh and you’re welcome

Justine Pissott's (Red Bank, NJ) Girls Basketball Stats

 

[LadyVols_WBK]

Im not worried about Justine's 3pt shooting AT ALL

she is a SHOOTER Period

her percentage in the tournament doesnt change my opinion because fatigue has to be a factor when she is playing TWICE a day everyday

 

[Voluble2]

Have at it my friend… Those are a complete set of HS stats. you can look at total stats so far then break it down year by year. This past year she got covid which is a reason for a lower number of games played and covid itself impacted schedules

Justine def didn’t have the best shooting at this tourney. She is a good free throw shooter but will need to drive more to get to the line. She also can reel in her distance and that will help. There are posters who want to gloat her shooting was off and then circle that back to Kellie’s best recruit and being terrible blah blah blah. So if you you’re going off of that then you missed the other tourneys this summer where she won MVP against tough completion

Not sunshine pumping just bringing it ALL up. Oh and you’re welcome

Justine Pissott's (Red Bank, NJ) Girls Basketball Stats

Thanks!

44% last year on three pt shots is very strong. It would be interesting to see what her tourney averages have been too.

I have only seen her a little, but was impressed with her passing and it looks like all of the tools are there to be a complete player with some refinement. But we will have a much better idea once she is on campus. 6'4" guards are a rarity and will pose match-up problems both for us and against us depending on the game. I am sure we would like to get her posted up against the smaller guards, and the smaller guards will try to drive on her and also test her ball-handling.

 

[therickbol]

Just my opinion, but in college her deep shots will likely need to start higher and get off quicker. There isn’t any question college defenders will force her to do those 2 things.

Lots of evidence that deep shots are not affected by low start. Shoot Steph Curry starts his shot low. It won't be an issue.

 

[youcancallmeAl]

Silly to worry about shooting % in ONE tournament.

 

[NeedOrange]

Lots of evidence that deep shots are not affected by low start. Shoot Steph Curry starts his shot low. It won't be an issue.

By necessity all shots off the bounce start low. Not having a low start or a dip is important when getting a pass at chest height and not dropping the ball down thereby having a quick release before the defense can close a gap.

Here is a high school freshman demonstrating that you don't need to bring the ball down to shoot 3's:

 

[Coach Jumper]

By necessity all shots off the bounce start low. Not having a low start or a dip is important when getting a pass at chest height and not dropping the ball down thereby having a quick release before the defense can close a gap.

Here is a high school freshman demonstrating that you don't need to bring the ball down to shoot 3's:

The 3 pt shot is all about being open and completing the shot before the space closes...Justine finishes high in the mid-range and at the rim and that is where finishing high is necessary...You rarely see a truly contested 3 pt shot, as most shooters work for that separation and defender separation before shooting one.

One thing I do not do as a coach, is coach a shooter out of their comfort shot, when out of their comfort-zone. (Beyond their "Comfort zone", per me, is the point at which a shooter is too far out to shoot their normal shot and has to change their mechanics in order to get the shot to the hoop from longer distance...For me it is about one step from the arc, once I get to that point, my own shot changes dramatically...So if I, being a pretty healthy and fairly strong person, have t o change my shot to get it to the hoop once I get outside of my own comfort-zone,,,why would I not expect the same for any player?

 

[volbeast33]

By necessity all shots off the bounce start low. Not having a low start or a dip is important when getting a pass at chest height and not dropping the ball down thereby having a quick release before the defense can close a gap.

Here is a high school freshman demonstrating that you don't need to bring the ball down to shoot 3's:

Most women shoot that way while the majority of men basketball players dip the ball and turn when shooting….There is even a system called pro shot form taught mainly out of Georgia but has traveling camps that teach pro shot form….. I think even PGC is teaching that shooting system.

 

[NeedOrange]

The 3 pt shot is all about being open and completing the shot before the space closes...Justine finishes high in the mid-range and at the rim and that is where finishing high is necessary...You rarely see a truly contested 3 pt shot, as most shooters work for that separation and defender separation before shooting one.

One thing I do not do as a coach, is coach a shooter out of their comfort shot, when out of their comfort-zone. (Beyond their "Comfort zone", per me, is the point at which a shooter is too far out to shoot their normal shot and has to change their mechanics in order to get the shot to the hoop from longer distance...For me it is about one step from the arc, once I get to that point, my own shot changes dramatically...So if I, being a pretty healthy and fairly strong person, have t o change my shot to get it to the hoop once I get outside of my own comfort-zone,,,why would I not expect the same for any player?

Basic non argument here. The shooter should be open to shoot the shot. The correct form allows you to be open with one step separation. Two or three step separation is not necessary. Who is going to get off more quality shots in their comfort zone. The player with the correct form, right? Why teach a shot that takes longer to get off and requires a high degree of openness.

The key to good shooting is consistency of the shot. To change the mechanics that work is a detrimental teaching.

Also as you have declared that you have never played the game and are self taught, using yourself as an example is unrealistic. Your changed shot works for you because you have never taken a contested shot.

Here's another video of Saylor shooting 3's with no dip;
Watch Video "2 Three Pointers vs Williamsport"

 

[NeedOrange]

Most women shoot that way while the majority of men basketball players dip the ball and turn when shooting….There is even a system called pro shot form taught mainly out of Georgia but has traveling camps that teach pro shot form….. I think even PGC is teaching that shooting system.

They can teach that shot all they want. All kids dip when they are young. It is something they have to unlearn. Myself, I would rather teach the high upright method as the kids get stronger. They will have more open shots because without the dip the shot is off quicker and harder to block. I showed the clip of Azzi as a freshman because at that age she was not stronger than a typical high school junior. To me, the dip is bad form and didn't teach it.

 

[GameTime]

 

[sisaq]

Wow

 

[volbeast33]

They can teach that shot all they want. All kids dip when they are young. It is something they have to unlearn. Myself, I would rather teach the high upright method as the kids get stronger. They will have more open shots because without the dip the shot is off quicker and harder to block. I showed the clip of Azzi as a freshman because at that age she was not stronger than a typical high school junior. To me, the dip is bad form and didn't teach it.

I disagree 100%….. you are confusing the dip with young kids starting their shot from the hip due to lack of strength…. The dip actually creates rhythm and increases the speed of the shot…. At least 95% of the great nba shooters dip when they shoot….Not many women dip which is why their shots tend to look more robotic when they shoot…. If I am not mistaken, I believe that maya Moore dipped when she shot…. One of the hardest things to move away from is the way things have traditionally been taught in sports… when my daughter shot free throws and turned her feet at a 45 degree angle…. You would have thought we killed someone by the reactions from coaches and refs….. Two other things that I hate being taught is follow your shot and boxing out to rebound.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Basic non argument here. The shooter should be open to shoot the shot. The correct form allows you to be open with one step separation. Two or three step separation is not necessary. Who is going to get off more quality shots in their comfort zone. The player with the correct form, right? Why teach a shot that takes longer to get off and requires a high degree of openness.

The key to good shooting is consistency of the shot. To change the mechanics that work is a detrimental teaching.

Also as you have declared that you have never played the game and are self taught, using yourself as an example is unrealistic. Your changed shot works for you because you have never taken a contested shot.

Here's another video of Saylor shooting 3's with no dip;
Watch Video "2 Three Pointers vs Williamsport"

Yes, in 40+ years of coaching I have never been in a contested game/situation...come on now.
To stay in shape and keep my cardio right, I have played pickup BB for nearly all of those years and have been matched up with athletes YOU have heard of...I played intramural in college and was matched up against Terrell Owens bc he was at that time only an inch or two taller than I was...So, believe me, I have been in contested situations.

I disagree 100%….. you are confusing the dip with young kids starting their shot from the hip due to lack of strength…. The dip actually creates rhythm and increases the speed of the shot…. At least 95% of the great nba shooters dip when they shoot….Not many women dip which is why their shots tend to look more robotic when they shoot…. If I am not mistaken, I believe that maya Moore dipped when she shot…. One of the hardest things to move away from is the way things have traditionally been taught in sports… when my daughter shot free throws and turned her feet at a 45 degree angle…. You would have thought we killed someone by the reactions from coaches and refs….. Two other things that I hate being taught is follow your shot and boxing out to rebound.

That initial dip, becomes for most players a shot-pocket later on
look at the 31 second mark of this video, by one of the greatest shooters living

 

[NeedOrange]

I disagree 100%….. you are confusing the dip with young kids starting their shot from the hip due to lack of strength…. The dip actually creates rhythm and increases the speed of the shot…. At least 95% of the great nba shooters dip when they shoot….Not many women dip which is why their shots tend to look more robotic when they shoot…. If I am not mistaken, I believe that maya Moore dipped when she shot…. One of the hardest things to move away from is the way things have traditionally been taught in sports… when my daughter shot free throws and turned her feet at a 45 degree angle…. You would have thought we killed someone by the reactions from coaches and refs….. Two other things that I hate being taught is follow your shot and boxing out to rebound.

I'm just saying I'm not a fan of bringing the ball below the chest to start a shot. It's extra motion that is not necessary and leads to blocked and bothered shots. I showed you videos of girls that don't dip and shoot very well. Do you have a reason besides 'so and so does it'. IF you want to disagree with my reasoning, please do. But to say 'so and so does it' is not a reason to attempt a better methodology.

Did you really mean to say you 'hate being taught to following your shot and boxing out' or did you mean to say 'not taught'? Not following your shot is just street arrogance that you are so sure of your shoot that there is no reason to follow.

Yes, in 40+ years of coaching I have never been in a contested game/situation...come on now.
To stay in shape and keep my cardio right, I have played pickup BB for nearly all of those years and have been matched up with athletes YOU have heard of...I played intramural in college and was matched up against Terrell Owens bc he was at that time only an inch or two taller than I was...So, believe me, I have been in contested situations.



That initial dip, becomes for most players a shot-pocket later on
look at the 31 second mark of this video, by one of the greatest shooters living

Teach what you want to teach. I gave my reasons for not dipping and will continue to teach a high carry and release. If you disagree with my reasons than state your reasoning why it's better to dip. And being able to shoot from further out is not one because I gave you a clip of Saylor shooting from around 30 feet.

 

[GameTime]

A lot of consternation because the girl missed a few 3's...
All you experts take a breath and relax...Are you guys going to examine, in great detail, every shot the girl misses for the next four years?

 

[Volfan2012]

Im not worried about Justine's 3pt shooting AT ALL

she is a SHOOTER Period

her percentage in the tournament doesnt change my opinion because fatigue has to be a factor when she is playing TWICE a day everyday

If you just counted the shots she made and took around 22 to 25 feet you would get close to 50 percent from the field outside 30 feet she had a bad tourney.

 

[Volfan2012]

TALANA LEPOLO
#10 • CAL STARS (17U EYBL)
PG • 5-7 • 2022

Looks like Stanford is locked in on her.

 

[Volfan2012]

Follow Justine Pissott, Red Bank Catholic — 2020-2021 Girls Basketball

Doesn't tell attempts but she has made 142 three pointers in high school

 

[djtee]

The way this going she might be the only recruit for 2022 ? and i wonder why hmm!

 

[Volfan2012]

Ok found her stats and attempts

Justine Pissott High School Girls Basketball Stats Red Bank Catholic (Red Bank, NJ) | MaxPreps
39 percent three point shooter on 381 attempts and I guarantee at least 75 to 100 of them was from parking lot distance. Her stats from around the actual three point line certainly exceed 40 percent.

Her junior season was cut short because of covid in 7 games she was hitting 44 percent 24 of 54 will be watching what she does this season as a senior.

 

[djtee]

Ok found her stats and attempts

Justine Pissott High School Girls Basketball Stats Red Bank Catholic (Red Bank, NJ) | MaxPreps
39 percent three point shooter on 381 attempts and I guarantee at least 75 to 100 of them was from parking lot distance. Her stats from around the actual three point line certainly exceed 40 percent.

Her junior season was cut short because of covid in 7 games she was hitting 44 percent 24 of 54 will be watching what she does this season as a senior.

I guarantee at least 75 to 100 of them was from parking lot distance. OUCH !