2022 Recruits

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Rickster said:
Sorry but I'm going to be excited for any player Kellie signs whether its the #1 or #50 ranked recruit. If one has a problem getting excited for their team, they need to find another team to root for.
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Cool, you are entitled to your opinion. I’m happy for the kid but not so much for the team when the settle is far down the board. My primary point is who any team signs does not mean the coaches got who they preferred.
 
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lfvol said:
That’s obvious. The point is who we, or any team sign, is best they can get for whatever position or team need. And who we sign doesn’t mean that is the person they preferred. You settle and work down the list of those interested.
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Were way more setup to have a huge ranked class in 2023 and of course it must be. 2022 may turn out ok if we get lucky with a couple players still left on the board otherwise probably another player or two in the lower part of the top fifty.
 
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lfvol said:
Cool, you are entitled to your opinion. I’m happy for the kid but not so much for the team when the settle is far down the board. My primary point is who any team signs does not mean the coaches got who they preferred.
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Isn't that obvious or maybe I just don't understand your point. Of course they will sign the best person who fits their needs. That does not have to be someone highly ranked by people who have no clue.
 
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Rickster said:
Isn't that obvious or maybe I just don't understand your point. Of course they will sign the best person who fits their needs. That does not have to be someone highly ranked by people who have no clue.
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Again, I’m just saying who we or anyone sign doesn’t mean they got who they wanted. In terms of people with no clue, at the high level AAU events, top talent usually stands out even to recruiting analyst. But the real tell is offers where the school is willing to accept the commitment. Those are people with a “clue”.
 
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Trying to explain a very simple point to some posters here...

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lfvol said:
That’s obvious. The point is who we, or any team sign, is best they can get for whatever position or team need. And who we sign doesn’t mean that is the person they preferred. You settle and work down the list of those interested.
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Yep.

What you are getting on the court is not a product of the coach's judgment as to who the best players are, but rather who the best players are that they could convince to come play for them. Those are two wildly different things. And that is why we criticize and praise coaches based on how good they are at persuading kids to play for them who are higher up on the list. 80% of success in coaching is salesmanship (and if you don't like that percentage I have others ;o)
 
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volbeast33 said:
You can become a good shooter shooting any method with enough practice….. The reason I prefer the dip bc I feel it makes a shot quicker, effortless, more fluid, and it does a much better job syncing the shooters upper body and lower body together. If you watch women that don’t dip then you will still notice a slight hesitation as the player gathers themselves… a dip takes the place of this and creates better rhythm. Examples of players that dip…. Curry, ray allen, Kevin Durant, Diana Taurasi, Maya Moore and many more.

I think teaching young athletes to follow their shots is silliness…. An athlete needs to focus on finishing their shot and to have confidence that it is going in…. Planning on getting the rebound(which rarely happens) is crazy bc it typically leads to younger players not finishing their shot which is the most important part of basketball….. As for the rebounding part that I mentioned…. I teach kids to run to where the basketball should come off the rim at (majority are back side rebounds) Run to the spot that you feel the ball will come off at and then clear out space when there.
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The evidence is not even debatable. Every expert shooting coach that is at the top levels teaches a 1-motion shooting motion with a dip. Anyone that in unfamiliar or uncomfortable with that technique can do research to look it up and it is clear. The only players that are likely to have success with a 2-motion, high set point technique are very tall, very strong and very athletic. And they are going to find most of their success inside of 17 ft.

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therickbol said:
The evidence is not even debatable. Every expert shooting coach that is at the top levels teaches a 1-motion shooting motion with a dip. Anyone that in unfamiliar or uncomfortable with that technique can do research to look it up and it is clear. The only players that are likely to have success with a 2-motion, high set point technique are very tall, very strong and very athletic. And they are going to find most of their success inside of 17 ft.

onemotion
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Yep….. I agree….. that’s one of the biggest issues with youth sports….. everyone is stuck in their ways and don’t want to learn or figure out better ways to do things….my daughter lined her right shoulder up on free throws and I had refs in the middle of the games to me telling me that I was screwing up my daughter.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Yep….. I agree….. that’s one of the biggest issues with youth sports….. everyone is stuck in their ways and don’t want to learn or figure out better ways to do things….my daughter lined her right shoulder up on free throws and I had refs in the middle of the games to me telling me that I was screwing up my daughter.
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This video describes the one v two motions shots...but does not address a dip, shot-pocket, alignment...there is much more to shooting than the mechanics of the shooting arm alone
 
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Coach Jumper said:
This video describes the one v two motions shots...but does not address a dip, shot-pocket, alignment...there is much more to shooting than the mechanics of the shooting arm alone...However, it does lean to explanation of why some shooters shoot with B.A.S.E and squaring up (1-motion) while other shooters align knee-hip-elbow.
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To really touch on shooting takes an entire clinic or session
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Were way more setup to have a huge ranked class in 2023 and of course it must be. 2022 may turn out ok if we get lucky with a couple players still left on the board otherwise probably another player or two in the lower part of the top fifty.
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I agree with you on that we are setup to have a huge ranked class in 2023. Will also need to factor in the players and there rankings i think to ?. We can load up in 2023 but there is no guarantee we will get one of the elite players due to the other team needs to?. So that`s why i think getting Watkins and Smith or one of the two is a big deal ?
 
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Coach Jumper said:
This video describes the one v two motions shots...but does not address a dip, shot-pocket, alignment...there is much more to shooting than the mechanics of the shooting arm alone
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I agree….. we were only discussing the dip earlier though as part of shot mechanics.
 
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djtee said:
I agree with you on that we are setup to have a huge ranked class in 2023. Will also need to factor in the players and there rankings i think to ?. We can load up in 2023 but there is no guarantee we will get one of the elite players due to the other team needs to?. So that`s why i think getting Watkins and Smith or one of the two is a big deal ?
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Of course it would be fabulous to get one of those players. I don't know what our chances are seem slim doubt Smith leaves the state of Texas and Watkins only leaves if she don't like the loaded roster at SC. Even then it might be someone besides Tennessee.
 
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alexvol said:
I have no idea what or who you are talking about ....carry on with your normal rant against whoever.If I choose to stick with " someone " you will indeed know it.I have no dog in this fight or any other when it comes to you.
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Whatever. I didn't start this. I didn't understand the point the poster was trying to make and still don't. If you had taken just a couple of seconds to drill down to what precipitated the post you took exception to, you would have seen who and what I was replying to but that does not appear to matter to you or those that liked your beatdown.
 
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therickbol said:
The evidence is not even debatable. Every expert shooting coach that is at the top levels teaches a 1-motion shooting motion with a dip. Anyone that in unfamiliar or uncomfortable with that technique can do research to look it up and it is clear. The only players that are likely to have success with a 2-motion, high set point technique are very tall, very strong and very athletic. And they are going to find most of their success inside of 17 ft.
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Paige says hi.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Paige says hi.
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Not going to get into the mechanic discussion except to say, your forward shot action should not be from the chest area if you want to play high level basketball. It takes too much room to get off. And for that to be the case with anyone beyond a guard relegated to open set shots is hard to accept without trying to modify.

To the other poster, recruiting news would be welcomed. Amazing the lack of coverage in WBB compared to men’s.
 
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VA_VOLFAN said:
TN is in the top 3 in one of the top recruits left .. not saying we will get her but in the mix as other schools have seemingly been cut. Keep your fingers crossed 🤞🏾

Also making a strong push and making room for one of the top 23s. Let’s go new coaches 😜

Of the top 7 bullets of updated news TN is 4 of them. Not saying they are definite but def seeing some MAJOR improvements in this area. I hope it translates to 22’!!!
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As for Smith i hear she has added LSU to the mix they offered her late do to the coaching change. Remember Kim offered her when she was at Baylor.
 
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