2022 Target List

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cncchris33 said:
I just don't see a 6-5 Fernandez playing SF in the SEC as a like-for-like replacement for the 6-8 Dillon Mitchell. His film looks very guard-skill oriented. I only see him playing SF in the sense of a third guard in a small lineup whereas Mitchell is a much more traditional SF.

My guess is that there is a much greater chance it is related to Wallace than Mitchell if there is any relation.
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Wallace is a 1/2, Mitchell a 3/4 and Fernandez a 2/3…you can make an argument either way I suppose, but definitely has been more talk from Tennessee side of Mitchell trending away than Wallace trending away, in fact Tennessee is still pretty optimistic about Wallace so the timing of this offer doesn’t really line up with it being related to Wallace imo. When you consider that Mitchell is trending away from Tennessee and Miller has let it known he won’t sign until spring, and is considering pro options also, both of those guys were seen as SF by the staff and then they offer a guy listed as a SF…seems pretty clear to me which is more likely.
 
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Top targets (imo/info) bolded, updated with scheduled OV’s reported so far...

#10 Brandon Miller-OV 6/8
#16 Cason Wallace-OV 6/3
#18 Jaden Bradley
#21 Julian Phillips
#23 Eric Dailey Jr.
#31 Dillon Mitchell-OV 6/27
#32 Jalen Hood-Schifino-OV 6/15
#40 Jett Howard
#55 Noah Clowney
#63 Prince Aligbe
#64 Yohan Traore-scheduled OV in September
#69 Colin Smith
#98 BJ Edwards-OV 6/27***COMMIT***
#115 Ernest Udeh Jr.
#133 De’Ante Green-OV 6/23

NR KyeRon Lindsay
NR Daniel Sanford
NR Justyn Fernandez
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Wallace is a 1/2, Mitchell a 3/4 and Fernandez a 2/3…you can make an argument either way I suppose, but definitely has been more talk from Tennessee side of Mitchell trending away than Wallace trending away, in fact Tennessee is still pretty optimistic about Wallace so the timing of this offer doesn’t really line up with it being related to Wallace imo. When you consider that Mitchell is trending away from Tennessee and Miller has let it known he won’t sign until spring, and is considering pro options also, both of those guys were seen as SF by the staff and then they offer a guy listed as a SF…seems pretty clear to me which is more likely.
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That’s fine to speculate. I just don’t watch Fernandez and Mitchell play and arrive at the conclusion that Fernandez is a natural replacement for Mitchell. Their games don’t look similar to me, at all, other than they can both jump out of the gym and dunk everything around the rim. Fernandez has much more perimeter skill, to me. So, if the connection (if any) is between Mitchell and Fernandez, then the staff has two completely different plans for addressing the SF position, IMO.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That’s fine to speculate. I just don’t watch Fernandez and Mitchell play and arrive at the conclusion that Fernandez is a natural replacement for Mitchell. Their games don’t look similar to me, at all, other than they can both jump out of the gym and dunk everything around the rim. Fernandez has much more perimeter skill, to me. So, if the connection (if any) is between Mitchell and Fernandez, then the staff has two completely different plans for addressing the SF position, IMO.
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Yves Pons & BHH are very different players, but both will have played mostly PF for Tennessee…just because players play the same position doesn’t mean they have the same game, you are smart enough to know that though so I’m not trying to imply you didn’t. There’s only so many spots open for a signing class, if you preferred say Mitchell and Miller but your confidence on landing 1 of them continues to decline then you probably are exploring some other SF options, and Fernandez is capable of playing that position. Mitchell & Miller are 5 star types, you don’t find many 6’9” guys who can guard and play the 3 and are ready to contribute, it’s why both are Top 25 guys, but if you don’t feel you’re likely to land either then you start exploring some other options who play that position as well.

Yohan Traore, Ernest Udeh and Dom Campbell are very different players, but Tennessee offered Campbell late in the process when they weren’t feeling great about their post position board.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Yves Pons & BHH are very different players, but both will have played mostly PF for Tennessee…just because players play the same position doesn’t mean they have the same game, you are smart enough to know that though so I’m not trying to imply you didn’t. There’s only so many spots open for a signing class, if you preferred say Mitchell and Miller but your confidence on landing 1 of them continues to decline then you probably are exploring some other SF options, and Fernandez is capable of playing that position. Mitchell & Miller are 5 star types, you don’t find many 6’9” guys who can guard and play the 3 and are ready to contribute, it’s why both are Top 25 guys, but if you don’t feel you’re likely to land either then you start exploring some other options who play that position as well.

Yohan Traore, Ernest Udeh and Dom Campbell are very different players, but Tennessee offered Campbell late in the process when they weren’t feeling great about their post position board.
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I understand what you’re saying, but I guess my point is that I question whether he can play SF in the SEC in the traditional sense without forcing us to make concessions at other positions to make up for his lack of size. Essentially, we’d be recruiting him to play SF in a 3-guard lineup, so really just another wing player whose skills are more suited for the perimeter. It just seems like a fairly radical shift in philosophy to recruit such different type players for the same position within the same recruiting class.

In your example of Pons and BHH at PF, I think playing Pons at PF was quite non-traditional and not necessarily ideal. I don’t think the staff brought Pons in initially with the idea that he’d man the PF position over his last two years. That was more of a compromise born out of necessity and his lack of development in ball-handling and perimeter scoring. Similarly, Dane Bradshaw played a version of PF for Bruce Pearl.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I understand what you’re saying, but I guess my point is that I question whether he can play SF in the SEC in the traditional sense without forcing us to make concessions at other positions to make up for his lack of size. Essentially, we’d be recruiting him to play SF in a 3-guard lineup, so really just another wing player whose skills are more suited for the perimeter. It just seems like a fairly radical shift in philosophy to recruit such different type players for the same position within the same recruiting class.

In your example of Pons and BHH at PF, I think playing Pons at PF was quite non-traditional and not necessarily ideal. I don’t think the staff brought Pons in initially with the idea that he’d man the PF position over his last two years. That was more of a compromise born out of necessity and his lack of development in ball-handling and perimeter scoring. Similarly, Dane Bradshaw played a version of PF for Bruce Pearl.
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Man those were fun days. Still remember his late game tip in against UF!
 
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cncchris33 said:
I understand what you’re saying, but I guess my point is that I question whether he can play SF in the SEC in the traditional sense without forcing us to make concessions at other positions to make up for his lack of size. Essentially, we’d be recruiting him to play SF in a 3-guard lineup, so really just another wing player whose skills are more suited for the perimeter. It just seems like a fairly radical shift in philosophy to recruit such different type players for the same position within the same recruiting class.

In your example of Pons and BHH at PF, I think playing Pons at PF was quite non-traditional and not necessarily ideal. I don’t think the staff brought Pons in initially with the idea that he’d man the PF position over his last two years. That was more of a compromise born out of necessity and his lack of development in ball-handling and perimeter scoring. Similarly, Dane Bradshaw played a version of PF for Bruce Pearl.
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Fernandez is listed at 6’5” 200lbs…Mashack is 6’4” 192lbs, Powell 6’6” 185lbs, both are expected to play some 3 this year? Keon at 6’5” 186lbs played 3 and even the 4 at times last year? Jordan Bowden at 6’5” 193lbs played a lot of 3? Not sure how his size is some big issue as you seem to be suggesting? I don’t think it’s a radical change, it’s that Miller & Mitchell are Top 25 guys who’s ceilings might be Top 10, you don’t find guys 6’9” with that game ranked where Fernandez is. I don’t think you’re going to see Tennessee target only 6’9” SF’s, just like you won’t only see them target 6’11”+ posts.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That’s fine to speculate. I just don’t watch Fernandez and Mitchell play and arrive at the conclusion that Fernandez is a natural replacement for Mitchell. Their games don’t look similar to me, at all, other than they can both jump out of the gym and dunk everything around the rim. Fernandez has much more perimeter skill, to me. So, if the connection (if any) is between Mitchell and Fernandez, then the staff has two completely different plans for addressing the SF position, IMO.
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Or potentially, they think they can help Mitchell develop as a wing or having Fernandez put on strength

I don’t think Barnes has a “SF” big board. It’s probably something like:

Lead Guards
Wings
Stretch Forwards
Big Men

A lot of NBA teams don’t even do traditional position listings for draft prospects, they usually have something like I posted.
 
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zjcvols said:
Or potentially, they think they can help Mitchell develop as a wing or having Fernandez

I don’t think Barnes has a “SF” big board. It’s probably something like:

Lead Guards
Wings
Stretch Forwards
Big Men

A lot of NBA teams don’t even do traditional position listings for draft prospects, they usually have something like I posted.
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I can agree with this. With "positionless basketball" becoming more and more popular, this is probably more likely how UT's staff and many staffs in college look at prospects
 
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AngryButchJones said:
I can agree with this. With "positionless basketball" becoming more and more popular, this is probably more likely how UT's staff and many staffs in college look at prospects
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I doubt Barnes would put it this way, but from a simplified fan-perspective...

Ideally he'd like to have "rock/paper/scissors" options for each position, or in combination. If in the process of substituting for fouls or keeping fresh players on the floor you can continue to dictate personnel decisions by the opposing coach, you're well situated to win in tournament play.

But if you can't recruit that combination of diverse players, then the next best team makeup would be seven or eight long, quick players, 6'5"-6'9", who can take it inside and draw fouls on big men, and hit enough 3's to force Ds to cover the entire court. Hopefully, you'll be able to create more mismatches than you'll suffer, or put your size-mismatches on the bench with fouls.
 
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Top targets (imo/info) bolded, updated with scheduled OV’s reported so far...

#10 Brandon Miller-OV 6/8
#16 Cason Wallace-OV 6/3
#18 Jaden Bradley
#21 Julian Phillips
#23 Eric Dailey Jr.
#31 Dillon Mitchell-OV 6/27
#32 Jalen Hood-Schifino-OV 6/15
#40 Jett Howard
#55 Noah Clowney
#63 Prince Aligbe
#64 Yohan Traore-scheduled OV in September
#69 Colin Smith
#98 BJ Edwards-OV 6/27***COMMIT***
#115 Ernest Udeh Jr.
#133 De’Ante Green-OV 6/23

NR KyeRon Lindsay
NR Daniel Sanford
NR Justyn Fernandez
NR Zakai Zeigler
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Brandon's Breakdown: Class of 2022 July Live Period Stock Risers

8) KYERON LINDSAY | PF | PRO SKILLS
(Photo: Jon Lopez/Jon Lopez Creative/Nike EYBL)
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Current Ranking: Not Ranked
Analysis: Each spring, I try to project the Texas players who have a chance of blowing up, but KyeRon Lindsay is one who came out of nowhere and seized every opportunity in Augusta. A 6-foot-8 power forward out of Denton (Texas) Guyer, the southpaw has big hands, a soft touch, and a great motor to go along with his improved physical frame. Within his two weeks, he has now entertained a high major recruitment filled with offers from Marquette, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas A&M, and Tennessee.
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Of course, we would offer. He's left handed.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Rob Lewis on podcast today said 3 guys he feels Tennessee is in best shape with are: Cason Wallace, Brandon Miller and Yohan Traore. Said they could miss on all 3 or land all 3, they’re in it deep for all 3 but none are a given,
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I’m still not convinced CW is going to Kentucky.
 
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#548
bleedingTNorange said:
Rob Lewis on podcast today said 3 guys he feels Tennessee is in best shape with are: Cason Wallace, Brandon Miller and Yohan Traore. Said they could miss on all 3 or land all 3, they’re in it deep for all 3 but none are a given,
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3 out of the 4 kids I want most, along with Mitchell
 
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On the recruiting front it’s all about setting up official visits right now. On that topic we have a new name to throw onto the 2022 board. Four star shooting guard Jett Howard will take an official visit to Tennessee on September 10. Before anyone gets too excited, he’s the son of Michigan head coach Juwan Howard and just about everyone expects him to end up with the Wolverines. Nevertheless the Vols are making a run.

The Cason Wallace sweepstakes remains a battle we believe between Kentucky and Tennessee. The good news for the Vols, at least for now, is that they have been told by the family that Wallace will return to Knoxville for an official visit, likely on Sept. 17.

He’s visiting Kentucky at the end of August, Texas after that which many think is a token visit for the in-state school, and will then make a return visit to Tennessee. It’s a dogfight in our opinion but Tennessee can’t ask anymore than getting the first and last official visit and being the only suitor to get him on campus two times.

As of now we also think that big man Yohan Traorewill make an official visit in the fall but that is still being worked out. After a fantastic summer Traore’s recruitment is going to be far more intense than it was when Tennessee offered him back in the spring. Michigan and Texas are both in the picture and LSU is emerging as a new suitor. If Traore and his camp are serious about the Tigers that’s a prospect that Tennessee probably doesn’t land.

Tennessee tossed out what some saw as a surprise offer this week to New York City point guard Zakai Zeigler this week. The explanation for the offer was simple, he balled out at the Peach Jam at a game where just about the entire Tennessee staff was watching Brandon Miller. Assistant coach Mike Schwartz, as meticulous an evaluator as there is, then started bulldogging him, doing some research and then offered.

Five star in-state forward Brandon Miller’s father said in an interview this week that Miller intended to commit and sign this fall. That’s contrary to what Miller has said in the past, which is that he preferred to wait until spring. We’re told that it’s always been the preference for the senior Miller that his son sign early while it’s always been the son’s preference to wait. Stay tuned on that one.
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-VQ
 
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