2022 U.S. Senate Races

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BreatheUT said:
You are a full blown true believer.

I have found many/most progressives, liberals, and democrats, as evidenced on this board, are inflexible individuals that use emotion rather than sound judgment based on a set of facts derived from real world experiences. They are typically ideologues who have twisted some of the realities of the world. They have not evolved through natural maturation but are ones who have continued to cultivate beliefs from their adolescent years; hence, they are stuck in adolescent thinking which contributes to some delusion.

They tend to believe there are a set of decision makers among man that are greater and more noble than the rest who genuinely have the best interest of mankind at heart. In this sense they should have the power of God. Ideas like freedom become more opaque as they become more fervent with age in these beliefs. Big government headed by unelected bureaucrats should be given a mandate to turn society upside down on their own. There is no connection in their reasoning skills to the coincidence of size of government to the power and control they demand over the masses to their favor.

To close, you fit this description. You even deserved some of the Butchisms I put in there as evidence of where I think you are on the pragmatic scale.
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Wow, pot calling the kettle black much?
 
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Weezer said:
If only Democrats could clearly see the devastating destruction of socialism.
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Republicans are better name-callers than Democrats. Republicans have effectively weaponized the "socialist" label against Democratic Party candidates, but are Republicans truly opposed to policies of socialism? It sure doesn't seem like it.

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The United States government has the country racing downhill on the road to socialism, but it isn't just the policies of the Democratic Party that are taking us in that direction.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
This is absurd. "Be on the committee and keep your mouth shut". There is a reason some in your party are bucking, and it is because of this kind of blind bend the knee loyalty to Mango Mussolini. And as much as I dislike her, she isn't an idiot. She knows she would never win a presidential primary.
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No offense, but y'all are so thick sometimes. I didn't say she should keep her mouth shut. Simply do her job and not get into a pissing match with Trump and his followers. She was on Prime time news getting face time and you know it. It wasn't about getting to the truth. It was about being the anti-Trump republican for president.

Also, not my party.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
No offense, but y'all are so thick sometimes. I didn't say she should keep her mouth shut. Simply do her job and not get into a pissing match with Trump and his followers. She was on Prime time news getting face time and you know it. It wasn't about getting to the truth. It was about being the anti-Trump republican for president.

Also, not my party.
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"Do your job and don't question Trump". -VolNation PF
 
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Sandman 423 said:
No offense, but y'all are so thick sometimes. I didn't say she should keep her mouth shut. Simply do her job and not get into a pissing match with Trump and his followers. She was on Prime time news getting face time and you know it. It wasn't about getting to the truth. It was about being the anti-Trump republican for president.

Also, not my party.
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Being "anti-Trump" in the Republican Party doesn't come with any political advantages. It garners such little support from Republican voters, that it's more likely Liz Cheney's public opposition to Donald Trump's conduct, is motivated by a genuine concern for the direction that the Republican Party is currently headed. Could she still run for President? Sure, but she won't do so with any hope of winning the Republican Party nomination. It would be done more as a continuation of her efforts to keep Trump from winning, than any hope of winning herself.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Being "anti-Trump" in the Republican Party doesn't come with any political advantages.
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Not totally true. Big money donors are largely still behind the old guard. The leadership of the GOP, which is still largely old guard, doesn't want to be a working class populist Party. They are still under the illusion they can win back the educated white vote. Good example, the old guard thought they had NY-19 special election in the bag. Only way forward for the GOP is working class populist Party or they can become irrelevant which looked to be their destiny after the Neocons almost destroyed the Party.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Being "anti-Trump" in the Republican Party doesn't come with any political advantages. It garners such little support from Republican voters, that it's more likely Liz Cheney's public opposition to Donald Trump's conduct, is motivated by a genuine concern for the direction that the Republican Party is currently headed. Could she still run for President? Sure, but she won't do so with any hope of winning the Republican Party nomination. It would be done more as a continuation of her efforts to keep Trump from winning, than any hope of winning herself.
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That’s crap and you know it. There are probably 80% that would vote for a potato if that is what the party served up. You just need the Bush folks and some independents and no Trump support needed. Just do it like Desantis vs how Chaney how went about it.
It is hard to explain this to you because you would likely vote for a potato…
 
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Sandman 423 said:
That’s crap and you know it. There are probably 80% that would vote for a potato if that is what the party served up. You just need the Bush folks and some independents and no Trump support needed. Just do it like Desantis vs how Chaney how went about it.
It is hard to explain this to you because you would likely vote for a potato…
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That is ridiculous.

In this election cycle alone, we have seen multiple incredibly weak Republican candidates win their primary elections, on nothing else but their endorsement from Donald Trump. Herschel Walker won't even participate in a debate.

That 80% you speak of, would only vote for a Republican who had denounced Donald Trump, if it was in the general election vs a Democrat... in other words, they couldn't make it out of the primary unless they had run unopposed.

A Republican absolutely does need support from Trump voters. Ron DeSantis is a terrible example for the point you are ineptly trying to make.. He has never done anything but praise Donald Trump, and that includes supporting the belief that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged. DeSantis has also never been critical of Trump over the January 6th riot at the Capitol. Hell, he has never gone on the record with any form of criticism against Donald Trump. He is basically a Trump minion.

You are dead wrong all over the place.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is ridiculous.

In this election cycle alone, we have seen multiple incredibly weak Republican candidates win their primary elections, on nothing else but their endorsement from Donald Trump. Herschel Walker won't even participate in a debate.

That 80% you speak of, would only vote for a Republican who had denounced Donald Trump, if it was in the general election vs a Democrat... in other words, they couldn't make it out of the primary unless they had run unopposed.

A Republican absolutely does need support from Trump voters. Ron DeSantis is a terrible example for the point you are ineptly trying to make.. He has never done anything but praise Donald Trump, and that includes supporting the belief that the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged. DeSantis has also never been critical of Trump over the January 6th riot at the Capitol. Hell, he has never gone on the record with any form of criticism against Donald Trump. He is basically a Trump minion.

You are dead wrong all over the place.
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Why are you so hung up on Trump? It is not necessary to denounce him in order to win an election and you don't have to kiss his a** either. Why do you care if they denounce him or not. It isn't like you would vote for them if they did.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
Why are you so hung up on Trump? It is not necessary to denounce him in order to win an election and you don't have to kiss his a** either. Why do you care if they denounce him or not. It isn't like you would vote for them if they did.
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I didn't say that it was necessary to denounce him in order to win an election.

The subject was Liz Cheney, and how she fell out of favor with Wyoming voters. It had everything to do with the fact that she joined the January 6th Commission.

If you are a Republican, you don't necessarily have to kiss his a$$, but you can't be publicly critical of him, and still win your primary. The Republican Party is a Cult of Personality now. The litmus test for membership is an unconditional support for Donald Trump.

Liz Cheney wasn't voted out on matters of policy. She was voted out because she failed the litmus test. It is Republicans who are hung up on Trump.
 
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volgr said:
Let's hope past trends hold...
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I question the validity of that statistic. In the 2018 midterm election cycle, Democrats were projected to pick up between 40-43 seats in the House of Representatives. They picked up 40.

As far as the Senate is concerned, Republicans were running much better candidates in 2014 and 2018 than they are now.
 
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Fetterman Opposes School Vouchers for the Poor. He Sends His Kids To One Of PA’s Priciest Prep Schools.

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Pennsylvania Senate hopeful John Fetterman (D.) opposes vouchers that let children in failing public school districts attend private and charter schools. But the progressive champion, who lives in one of Pennsylvania’s worst performing school districts, sends his kids to an elite prep school.

Fetterman’s kids attend the Winchester Thurston School in Pittsburgh, where parents pay up to $34,250 for a "dynamic" learning environment and an "innovative" approach to teaching. They would otherwise go to schools in Woodland Hills School District, where graduation rates are far below the state average. The local elementary school that serves Fetterman’s town of Braddock is in the bottom 15 percent of the state in academic performance. Fetterman and his wife Gisele have sent at least one of their three kids to Winchester Thurston for the past seven years. A 2018 news article mentioned that Fetterman sends his kids to a private school in Pittsburgh, though the school was not identified. Gisele Fetterman has been a "WT parent" since at least 2015. Last year, Winchester Thurston praised Gisele, a "WT Mom," for her help on an art project.

Fetterman Opposes School Vouchers for the Poor. He Sends His Kids To One Of PA’s Priciest Prep Schools. - Washington Free Beacon
 
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How Raphael Warnock Doubled His Income Since Joining the Senate

Warnock made over half a million dollars in 2021—from book deals, outside employers, and speaking fees

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Sen. Raphael Warnock (D., Ga.) more than doubled his income since joining the Senate last year, with most of his half-a-million-dollar haul coming from outside employers and book deals, according to his financial disclosure records.

Warnock disclosed a total income of $532,781 in 2021, a significant bump from the $221,602 he earned in the year before his election. Less than half of his income last year came from his Senate salary, which was $164,816. Ebenezer Baptist Church paid him an additional $120,964, including a $7,417-per-month housing allowance. Penguin Random House also paid him $243,750 as an advance on his memoir that was published in June, and he received $5,750 in speaking fees.

Warnock’s spike in earnings comes two years after he accused his predecessor, former Republican Sen. Kelly Loeffler, of "us[ing] the people’s seat to enrich yourself." The income is likely to feed the perception that holding public office is a means to enrichment given how many lawmakers find a way to leverage their positions—over time—into multimillion-dollar fortunes. Warnock's 100 percent income increase shows how quickly that can happen, as he's doubled his take-home pay in just two years.

How Raphael Warnock Doubled His Income Since Joining the Senate - Washington Free Beacon
 
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tim said:
Oz is a terrible candidate, Fetterman still won’t win by 13
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Why would he win at all, the man is an idiot. He dresses in pull over hoodies in the middle of the summer, never had a job in his life and has had a stroke and can't put together a coherent sentence.
Whoops, I forgot, we're talking democrat voters here.
 
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