2023 Recruiting

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37620VOL said:
It's more like everyone sees the elephant, but the super negs think they are so smart that no one can see it but them, and they need to remind their lessers of "the fact of the elephant" every minute of everyday.
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Exactly. They seem to be irritated that some of us are simply trying to enjoy the season we have right here in front of us. There's plenty of time to get upset and disappointed and angry and disgusted and whatever else they're feeling already in the future. Not now. Now is the time to have fun being a supporter of the team we've got right now. In a couple of years, if we suddenly have a bare cupboard and the program takes a big step backward, then I may then feel the need to worry. But not yet. Not now. 🥹
 
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Ovol said:
Do not believe there will be a Rickea Jackson in the portal every year.
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The portal is very unpredictable every year. I don't like to count on the unknown. We never know who will transfer and if the quality transfers are at a position of need. Some years we will probably be able to have highly successful portal adds like this one, while others it may be a bit lighter. Same goes for every program out there. I think that is why you don't want to solely depend on the portal alone but the portal is a recruiting tool that will be used by everyone in America moving forward. That is the way of college athletics. Some years you probably can rely on it, while others probably not. Depends on who is in it.
 
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lvocd said:
Exactly. They seem to be irritated that some of us are simply trying to enjoy the season we have right here in front of us. There's plenty of time to get upset and disappointed and angry and disgusted and whatever else they're feeling already in the future. Not now. Now is the time to have fun being a supporter of the team we've got right now. In a couple of years, if we suddenly have a bare cupboard and the program takes a big step backward, then I may then feel the need to worry. But not yet. Not now. 🥹
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Not quite: There are several diehards on the board who've repeatedly asserted that our lousy recruiting isn't a big deal. THAT's the issue. Everybody wants the Vols to have a strong season. This, after all, is a recruiting thread--not a game or season-performance thread.
 
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turbovol said:
Not quite: There are several diehards on the board who've repeatedly asserted that our lousy recruiting isn't a big deal. THAT's the issue. Everybody wants the Vols to have a strong season. This, after all, is a recruiting thread--not a game or season-performance thread.
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^ High School recruiting
 
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turbovol said:
Not quite: There are several diehards on the board who've repeatedly asserted that our lousy recruiting isn't a big deal. THAT's the issue. Everybody wants the Vols to have a strong season. This, after all, is a recruiting thread--not a game or season-performance thread.
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Got it. Thanks.
 
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37620VOL said:
It's more like everyone sees the elephant, but the super negs think they are so smart that no one can see it but them,
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It's also that they think everyone should interpret the elephant exactly the way they do. I'm not so sure it's a true elephant. I suspect it may be a pink dancing elephant that will go away when I (and the wild new recruiting scene) sober up.

Darth_Vol said:
And still 0 recruits...
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Which, if I'm not mistaken, is the same number Jeff Walz has. The Elephant is splitting his time in Jeff's room too, Walz is a noted strong recruiter, so seeing him also whiff makes me suspect even moreso that it's just the insane Wild West recruiting landscape causing the Elephant to show up in unlikely places.

Of course in the ideal world recruiting should be balanced between the portal and HS to meet needs. but these are far from ideal times. Of course striking out on either source is a concern that needs to be addressed and I'm sure it will be both in Louisville and Knoxville. Hopefully its a one off. Both Walz and Harper have recruiting histories that indicate it should be.

If it becomes an ongoing trend, then we get the Elephant gun.
 
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Rickster said:
We don't need to see it. In the end, it's about winning. If we go undefeated and win a championship, do we have to give it back because we recruited from the portal? I know some fans believe we have to win every facet of the game but dang.....
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It isn't about this year.
 
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Memvol44 said:
It isn't about this year.
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Are you going to be able to enjoy this current season at all, or does the concern about the future in recruiting ruin the present for you? I'm genuinely curious..

I'm able to create that separation, and it makes a huge difference emotionally. I mean, this year we really do have the best team we've had in at least a decade and possibly ever, so it would be a real shame if people missed out on how wonderful it's going to feel to watch THIS team THIS potentially magical season because you've got your mind fixated on teams in the future. 😢
 
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Portal entries 1139 two years ago and 1319 this past year. Probable portal entries this season at least 1000. No reason you shouldn't be able to find three or four top players out of that type of entries. We have to this recruiting season for high school is over.
 
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QUOTE="lvocd, post: 21990732, member: 67674"]Are you going to be able to enjoy this current season at all, or does the concern about the future in recruiting ruin the present for you? I'm genuinely curious..

I'm able to create that separation, and it makes a huge difference emotionally. I mean, this year we really do have the best team we've had in at least a decade and possibly ever, so it would be a real shame if people missed out on how wonderful it's going to feel to watch THIS team THIS potentially magical season because you've got your mind fixated on teams in the future. 😢[/QUOTE]
I will enjoy this season, just as much as the last 25 seasons. Doesn't take away the concern about the foundation of this program. I want the days of players lining up to be Lady Vols. I understand the landscape has changed in women's b-ball. Still want to get the cream of the crop. That's not happening at this time.
 
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TheMississippiVol said:
The only place recruiting from the portal is being discussed as an issue comes from a pocket of fans on this forum. In every collegiate sport both women & men the portal has become a prized possession in recruiting.
This is just people complaining for no good reason. You folks have at it.. there’s nothing to validate this argument of any sort of short-term or long term impact on Coach Harper recruiting process.
The main issue I’m hearing is most of you are offended because you don’t have inside information. And you shouldn’t. Negative recruiting against Tennessee is irrelevant if it’s going on. Look at the players that have committed here or stayed under Coach Harper era… 5 players (Franklin, Powell, Key, Horston, and Jackson) were named to preseason (position) top player lists, one soph. (Puckett) and one freshman (Pissott) earned watchlist honors, one of the nation’s top underclassmen transfers is a former HS all-American(Hollingshead), three made all-sec first team (Jackson, Key, and Horston) and Coach Harper is the SEC Preseason Coach of the Yr. Last but not least Marta Suarez is arguably one of the most talented players in the country returning from injury after being an All-SEC selection her freshman year. I heard people raving about Arkansas’s prolific 3pt specialist Ramirez all last season, well you have a prolific scorer/ 3pt specialist returning as a LV in Marta along w/ newcomer Justine. True fans get behind these players and stop glorifying every HS recruit based on recruiting service rankings.
Who in their right mind wastes this kind of energy making one factor outweigh several factors of a winning program?
The LV program is in a great position right now. In a better position than most. That’s why this team is ranked 4th/5th in the nation. There’s no asterisk. They have a great culture. The staff is honoring each and every player that commits to the program and the player development is at an all-time high. Recruiting is recruiting.
A year or two from now the same critics will likely be complaining when Coach Harper passes on a player in the portal for a highly rated HS recruit.
The embarrassment is not HS recruiting it’s the audacity of some calling themselves a fan to constantly promote this propaganda.
Some of you folks won’t ever be satisfied.. even when the LVs win another national championship.
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JMO, the thread could’ve closed after this post.
 
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TheMississippiVol said:
JMO, the thread could’ve closed after this post.
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If it had, we would not have learned this...

turbovol said:
Not quite: There are several diehards on the board who've repeatedly asserted that our lousy recruiting isn't a big deal. THAT's the issue. ...
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It's not about recruiting at all. It's about disagreeing with the negative agenda. Hopefully we won't get another one of those 900 word turbo essays.
 
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lvocd said:
Exactly. They seem to be irritated that some of us are simply trying to enjoy the season we have right here in front of us. There's plenty of time to get upset and disappointed and angry and disgusted and whatever else they're feeling already in the future. Not now. Now is the time to have fun being a supporter of the team we've got right now. In a couple of years, if we suddenly have a bare cupboard and the program takes a big step backward, then I may then feel the need to worry. But not yet. Not now. 🥹
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Live for today for tomorrow May never come. Don't know if that’s a good idea in recruiting, but doubt it.
 
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Coach Jumper said:
couldn't wait huh


season opener,,,right now, it's about right now
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I put money she transfers after 1 season . Whether the LV's have room for her who knows at that time. This seems like a "i don't want to disappoint my family/city" commitment. Not really where the gal wants to be .
 
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Updated for S'mya Nichols
2023 offers (with ESPN ranking)

1. Cori Allen (93) To Illinois
2. Kamorea Arnold (6) To UCONN
3. Lenee Beaumont (83) To Indiana
4. Madison Booker (12) To Texas
5. Chloe Clardy (39) To Stanford
6. Essence Cody (22) To Alabama
7. Mallory Collier (55) To NC State
8. Aalyah Del Rosario (7) To LSU
9. Montaya Dew (8) To Arizonani
10. Jadyn Donovan (3) To Duke
11. Hawa Doumbouya To Maryland
12. Jada Harrison To Middle TN State
13. Kymora Johnson (24) To Virginia
14. Alyssa Latham (72) To Syracuse
15. Olivia McGhee (45) To Virginia
16. S'Mya Nichols (34) To Kansas
17. Emma Risch (20) To Notre Dame
18. Qadence Samuels (41) To UCONN
19. Taliah Scott (11) To Arkansas
20. Ashlyn Shade (15) To UCONN
21. Delaney Thomas (29) To Duke
22. Angelica Velez (44) To LSU
23. Mikaylah Williams (2) To LSU
24. Sole Williams (51)
 
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