2024 Presidential Race

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#29,326
I honestly don't understand how more of you can't see how effed up both political parties are. It's not just one side or the other. We, as the governed, do not control our government, as was intended in the beginning. The government is controlled by Republicans and Democrats. And unless you have some rank in either party, it doesn't really matter if you claim yourself as one or the other. We're all getting effed.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I agree .... but I think Democrats have options that can win.

They should prioritize winning. Nobody helps you when they lose. Harris will probably lose. Trump would really have to do something stupid to blow it (but that is possible).
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Wow. We agree on something in the political forum. That may be a first.
 
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DaddyChad said:
Glad to see there are no limits to the compromises you’re willing to make so Trump won’t be the choice. It’s almost like you don’t have beliefs or values.
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Were you critical of Trump for pressuring Pence into not counting electoral votes from states they lost during certification before Congress on January 6, 2021 ?

If so ..... duly noted.

If not .... then you are throwing stones from inside of a glass house.
 
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Enki_Amenra said:
I'm surprised more people aren't outraged that their votes were stolen. Now they're trying to install that puppet as the candidate and expect everyone to just be good with it.
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Are you really surprised sheeple don't question it? They didn't even reallyu vote for Biden......they just check what their told.
 
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luthervol said:
They're waiting to hear more from the voters. Once the voters make their wishes clear, the party will know which direction to take.

But the bottom line is really very simple................ANYBODY BUT tRUMP
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Are they tallying votes? How are they hearing from voters? Tennessee already committed their delegates to Kamala. Did they poll them that quick? No. They aren't checking with voters. Stop being cute. Just call it for what it is.
 
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Weezer said:
I honestly don't understand how more of you can't see how effed up both political parties are. It's not just one side or the other. We, as the governed, do not control our government, as was intended in the beginning. The government is controlled by Republicans and Democrats. And unless you have some rank in either party, it doesn't really matter if you claim yourself as one or the other. We're all getting effed.
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What exactly is it you recommend?....................Specifically related to the 2024 election.
 
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volfanhill said:
Are they tallying votes? How are they hearing from voters? Tennessee already committed their delegates to Kamala. Did they poll them that quick? No. They aren't checking with voters. Stop being cute. Just call it for what it is.
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Tennessee jumped the gun.
 
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Weezer said:
Find a way to demand better. Stop voting for party stooges.
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What? Could you be more vague?

Maybe take this angle..............

What exactly are you going to do in the 2024 election? And how is it going to make things better?
 
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I’m questioning whether there’s any benefit for Trump to debate Harris or whoever ends up being the democrat nominee? With the perceived huge lead, why give anyone a chance to make a positive debate showing. All of America knows of Harris’ nonsensical statements in the press and her assignment as the border czar. Trump should just campaign on his agenda and somewhat ignore his opponent. Let Vance and others campaign on Harris’ shortcomings.
 
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luthervol said:
What? Could you be more vague?

Maybe take this angle..............

What exactly are you going to do in the 2024 election? And how is it going to make things better?
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If anything is going to be done, it would take Americans banding together for change, but we both know that is unlikely to happen. Most Americans are sheep, and the parties take full advantage of that.
 
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volfanhill said:


I think you just got told who your nominee is. Not elected. But told
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From a couple of days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Joe Biden faces a growing drumbeat of pressure to drop his reelection bid, a majority of Democrats think his vice president would make a good president herself.

apnews.com

Majority of Democrats think Kamala Harris would make a good president, AP-NORC poll shows

As President Joe Biden faces a growing drumbeat of pressure to drop his reelection bid, most Democrats think his vice president would make a good president herself.
apnews.com apnews.com

They've done an excellent job of listening and responding accordingly.
 
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luthervol said:
From a couple of days ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — As President Joe Biden faces a growing drumbeat of pressure to drop his reelection bid, a majority of Democrats think his vice president would make a good president herself.

apnews.com

Majority of Democrats think Kamala Harris would make a good president, AP-NORC poll shows

As President Joe Biden faces a growing drumbeat of pressure to drop his reelection bid, most Democrats think his vice president would make a good president herself.
apnews.com apnews.com

They've done an excellent job of listening and responding accordingly.
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Yea nothing like a election process... lol oh wait
 
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Weezer said:
If anything is going to be done, it would take Americans banding together for change, but we both know that is unlikely to happen. Most Americans are sheep, and the parties take full advantage of that.
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No one is more desirous of banding together than me.
I will continue to seek out that option at every step along the way.
 
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luthervol said:
apnews.com

Majority of Democrats think Kamala Harris would make a good president, AP-NORC poll shows

As President Joe Biden faces a growing drumbeat of pressure to drop his reelection bid, most Democrats think his vice president would make a good president herself.
apnews.com apnews.com
They've done an excellent job of listening and responding accordingly.
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No they haven't. This data is from the same poll I responded about to you yesterday.
Poll Data3.jpgPoll of 1,253 people.
44% of 1253 = 551.32
"They've done an excellent job of listening and responding accordingly."
They listened to all 551 of them........
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Yea nothing like a election process... lol oh wait
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He thinks a poll of 1,253 people is valid emperical data. PDF of the poll attached.
 

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I just checked my gmail account and saw that I had a donor solicitation from ActBlue (I donated $300 to Phil Bredesen's Senate Campaign a few years ago through ActBlue and occasionally get e-mails from them).

Anyway, the heading was "Elect Kamala Harris!" ..... They also claim to have raised $27.5 million just since Biden announced he was dropping out.

So ..... The powers that be have made their choice. I think it's a mistake .... but whatever.

It's Harris.
 
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