2024 Presidential Race

The outcome is the same.

Imagine how a slave would feel if someone said, "I'm not pro-slavery, I'm pro-choice." I'm sure that would be encouraging. The buggy banner would read, "If you don't like slavery, don't own one."

Personally, I'm against child abuse, but I could never tell someone else not to do that because I would be imposing my values upon them. I'm just staying above the issue and allowing each person to make his/her/zir choice. That way, I can sleep well at night, knowing that I'm maximizing personal freedoms and not infringing upon the rights of others re: their own property.
From the babies POV, it's pro-life or pro-abortion. Not sure the baby gets a choice.
 
Already, there are efforts underway to gaslight voters on a massive scale regarding her role as Joe Biden's border czar, where she failed miserably. The press and their fact-checking arms, in concert with the Democrat lawmakers, have dutifully picked up the talking point in what some have described as disturbing "Stalin-like" tactics to revise or in some cases erase history from the public eye.

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I challenge you because you claim to be a centrist and want strong borders, lower crime, fiscal responsibility yet you rant incessantly about Trump. It doesn't line up. You almost have to be provoked into saying something negative about the democrat policies and their contrarian actions toward policies you allegedly support. So it makes you look stealth like a troll trying to convince people you're conservative but all your posts are equally deranged.
 

It Took Nicolle Wallace Only 4 Days To Declare Harris ‘The Most Disciplined Candidate’ She Has Seen​


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MSNBC host Nicolle Wallace claimed Thursday that Vice President Kamala Harris was “the most disciplined” presidential candidate she had ever seen.

 
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Already, there are efforts underway to gaslight voters on a massive scale regarding her role as Joe Biden's border czar, where she failed miserably. The press and their fact-checking arms, in concert with the Democrat lawmakers, have dutifully picked up the talking point in what some have described as disturbing "Stalin-like" tactics to revise or in some cases erase history from the public eye.

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Democrats are always liars and scumbags in trying to hold on to their lunatic power.
 
Moral decay in society? Tell us what Old City Knoxville was like in the early 1900's.
Well, ‘twas a quiet time full of hope and love. Then came the Sumerians and their worship of Zuul, quickly followed by hail and fire. Once a man ripped his own arm off just to slap himself in the face as he couldn’t believe it to be real. Then he went around slapping others, not with his attached arm, but with the detached appendage. This went on until the 30s. By then the detached arm had grown tired of childish games and decided to settle down with another severed arm and make little appendages they called “fingers”.
 
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I understand that and agree.

But for me, and millions of others, trump is beneath the level of acceptability. It has been that way since the day he announced in 2016 and he has done nothing in the 8 years since but reinforce those beliefs.

The comparison is never "well they are about equally disgusting" for me. I guess theoretically it could be, but it wasn't with Hillary, Biden, or Harris.
I get that and 45%-ish of voters see Trump the same while about the same percentage would flip Trump and Hillary/Biden/Harris. The fact that so many people see it exactly the opposite tells you those people are at least in the same ballpark.
 
The people he is getting abuse from are not only the ones he directly offended though. There has been nothing like this in American history or at least modern history. An ordinary human would have crumbled by now. So, when you say he doesn't have thick skin... well, with all the lawsuits, indictments, verbal abuse, really a bunch of treason going on, etc. who in all of history would be still standing? NOBODY.

He is a tough mother******.
Not true. Elton John would.
 
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I understand that and agree.

But for me, and millions of others, trump is beneath the level of acceptability. It has been that way since the day he announced in 2016 and there is nothing he could have done to change my mind because I’m a good little sheep and will support the democrat party no matter what. On the continuum, I’m the least reasonable and rational person you could ever meet.


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I wasn't going to post over here again, but I just saw this and I can't resist gloating a little. I repeatedly said that Trump's gains with black voters were fickle, and more of a reflection of Biden than anything Trump has done .....


The early returns indicate that, as always, I was right.
 
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I wasn't going to post over here again, but I just saw this and I can't resist gloating a little. I repeatedly said that Trump's gains with black voters were fickle, and more of a reflection of Biden than anything Trump has done .....


The early returns indicate that, as always, I was right.
I knew you'd be back quicker than you said. This place is like a drug to some of us..
 
I wasn't going to post over here again, but I just saw this and I can't resist gloating a little. I repeatedly said that Trump's gains with black voters were fickle, and more of a reflection of Biden than anything Trump has done .....


The early returns indicate that, as always, I was right.
lol, aren't you the king of don't look at one poll but RCP average? And the own article you quote shows a 2% bump for trump vs 2020. Congrats. You knocked vegetable lasagna out of the race. Now kick his ass out of office. You chest pounding on this is you being a massive hypocrite on your own lectures to everyone else. You are no different than anyone else on here
 
lol, aren't you the king of don't look at one poll but RCP average? And the own article you quote shows a 2% bump for trump vs 2020. Congrats. You knocked vegetable lasagna out of the race. Now kick his ass out of office. You chest pounding on this is you being a massive hypocrite on your own lectures to everyone else. You are no different than anyone else on here

What I learned this month.

Single polls hold more power in the minds of looney leftist than they ever did in the mind of the Narcissistic Trump! And he’s obsessed with polls.

I mean, good grief!

Just ask Luth. One poll is enough to install Kamala as the Nominee for Prez.
 
Somebody asked, so I looked it up.

JD Vance served as a Corporal in the 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, in a Public Affairs role.
 

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