2024 Presidential Race

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VOLS INC. said:
Great point brought up last night. If Musk hadn’t have bought Twitter this is where would be in this campaign.

Harris campaign tweets: “If Trump is elected, all people of color will be boiled in hot oil after 20 years of slave labor.”

Twitter would say that this tweet does not violate their community standards.

Trump campaign tweets: “Kamala Harris wants to ban Fracking”.

Twitter would take down the tweet and put anyone that re-tweeted the tweet in Twitter timeout.


For the record. I say let all the messages just be. But I’m thankful Musk bought the company as it was becoming another propaganda arm of the democrat party.
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The community notes are an incredible add and precisely why leftoids flipped out and have accused Musk of every -ism they can come up with. The media machine is being busted.
 
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utvolpj said:
You seem turned around. I've never claimed burning a flag is unconstitutional. Trump is the one who suggested it should be punished which would be unconstitutional. So to lay out all out

Burning a flag = protected speech
Burning someone else's property = crime

I've not ignored the student loan rulings it's just that I place them miles below preserving the 1st and 2nd Amendments. It seems Trump and the right just can't say the same. Pity
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Let's get it right, burning a public flag is unconstutional And it carries a $1000 fine and/or 1 yr in jail according to the flag protection act of 1989. You saying Trump's comment was unconstutional. Burning your own flag is free speech. And what's really wrong is if i buy a pride flag and burn it then the libs claim it's a hate crime. Go figure
 
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dovervolz said:
Let's get it right, burning a public flag is unconstutional And it carries a $1000 fine and/or 1 yr in jail according to the flag protection act of 1989. You saying Trump's comment was unconstutional. Burning your own flag is free speech. And what's really wrong is if i buy a pride flag and burn it then the libs claim it's a hate crime. Go figure
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The Supreme Court says it's protected speech. The act you cite was struck down as unconstitutional. What Trump said would also be unconstitutional.

Burning any other flag is protected as well as long as it can't be construed as a direct threat
 
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utvolpj said:
The Supreme Court says it's protected speech. The act you cite was struck down as unconstitutional. What Trump said would also be unconstitutional.

Burning any other flag is protected as well as long as it can't be construed as a direct threat
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Regardless, there are probably countless violations of law there anyway and has nothing to do with the U.S. flag.

I see nothing wrong with someone burning a flag as a generalization, burning a flag of any type on government property is problematic though and isn't the same thing, generally speaking.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Regardless, there are probably countless violations of law there anyway and has nothing to do with the U.S. flag.

I see nothing wrong with someone burning a flag as a generalization, burning a flag of any type on government property is problematic though and isn't the same thing, generally speaking.
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All I ask for is consistency. If I want to burn a gay pride flag in my own back yard and post it online, I shouldn't have the police busting down my door and threatening me.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Regardless, there are probably countless violations of law there anyway and has nothing to do with the U.S. flag.

I see nothing wrong with someone burning a flag as a generalization, burning a flag of any type on government property is problematic though and isn't the same thing, generally speaking.
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It's more extreme symbolism but I'm not sure why exercising free speech on govt property is problematic. Feels like that should be the most protected
 
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volbound1700 said:
A Marine is a Marine. They still go through Bootcamp, training, etc. They still have risk of combat and don't have control over their life.

To say JD Vance or even Kamala with her Prosecution role, did not serve our nation is crazy. Now if you want to argue they didn't serve it well, go for it.
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Why did he serve like Joker instead of serving as a real gun-toting soldier like Al Gore did in Vietnam?
 
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DaddyChad said:
To be fair I think neither party has put forth the best in a great while.
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Frankly, the issue is with Americans. They wouldn't vote for the BEST if they were in the election. We look at dumb stuff when we vote for candidates and some of us listen way to much to the media and don't research facts.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's more extreme symbolism but I'm not sure why exercising free speech on govt property is problematic. Feels like that should be the most protected
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I am right there with you, excepting the fact that these protestors burned up property that wasn't theirs. Throw the book at them in that case.

Like I also said, if I want to buy and burn a gay pride, BLM, thin blue line, whatever flag on the National Mall or Capitol steps I should be able to. If I want to fly a Nazi flag there I should be able to. This all should be allowed if for no other reason than to expose the idiots that want to do those things.
 
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hog88 said:
There we will disagree.
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I don't think we disagree as much as you think.

I definitely think what JD Vance did is far more valuable to our nation but on paper both had professions that served the community. I also did NOT comment on whether they truly did their job well or not which is another topic entirely.

A person can have a job that serves their community and totally suck at it and hurt the community. I just stayed away from giving my opinion on how they performed their jobs.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's more extreme symbolism but I'm not sure why exercising free speech on govt property is problematic. Feels like that should be the most protected
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I am not clear what situation you are talking about but putting graffiti on a government monument is vandalism under nearly every local criminal law in the United States.

Now if they brought their own flag and burned it, you are likely correct.
 
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utvolpj said:
It's more extreme symbolism but I'm not sure why exercising free speech on govt property is problematic. Feels like that should be the most protected
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It has very little if nothing to do with the flag, why are they setting fire to something at all like on government property in which there are large amounts of people? There is already existing law to handle that.

My two cents, just arrest them for the obvious stuff. It has nothing to do with free speech, imo. I see nothing wrong with them setting fire to the U.S. flag, but yes causing chaos in public or on government property is a whole different matter.

They are not there because of free speech, they did it to cause chaos.... nobody probably would have said a damn thing if they were in their own yard doing it.
 
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I tell you guys something.... go into a Court and tell the Judge you have freedom of speech and see what happens. To me the flag thing becomes problematic on government property and when you break additional laws, generally speaking. Each situation could be different but in this case these people were setting fire to things. 😂
 
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