2024 Presidential Race

You're a little slow on the uptake today.

Harris/Walz will double down on all of the bad things Trump did and then some. I thought my post was pretty obvious as to what and who I was referring to.

I guess I should use blue font on my sarcastic and rhetorical questions.

Obviously, the point is to show you Trump is all the things you are complaining about.
 
The worst part of this are the folks (mainly on the left) who make voting personal. "If you vote for Trump you are a racist and a bad person." There's a lot of that out there
This is a politically tribal age, and the rhetoric often becomes overheated ...


However, I strongly disagree that one side is more to blame than the other, or that anyone is more guilty of resorting to personal attacks against those with opposing viewpoints than Donald Trump. Anyone critical of Donald Trump is automatically labeled as being "overrated" by Trump .... and despite being overweight himself, Trump will often call people who disagree with him "fat." I call that getting personal.

Also, simply being a Democrat makes a person a "fascist." It's mindless name-calling. I do not believe the average member of the right-wing echo chamber on here could even accurately define fascism, much less explain its roots.


^^^ Fascism is an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

However, this forum frequently applies it to liberals. The VN echo chamber doesn't know what it means, but they think they sound intelligent when saying it.
 
Are servers generally offered any benefits from the restaurants where they work? Probably a better question for @DinkinFlicka . It would seem that if they aren't given any other benefits, that they could be considered individual contractors to that restaurant and somehow garner better? tax treatment, while also having to pay SSA and all that stuff that an 'employer' normally pays.

Generally, no. Management and kitchen leads, sure. But servers are generally paid $2ish an hour, and typically have to pay the bar and support staff based on sales.
 
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You're talking about changing the entire service culture that's been around for 100+ years. A radical change like that will, without a doubt, lead to small business closures en masse.

I'd be okay, because my bar is mostly spirits in terms of sales(and I pay my staff 10-15 hour plus tips) but running a restaurant (especially fine dining) has incredibly thin profit margins. You're talking about increasing your labor on the floor anywhere from 160-400$/hour. It just isn't viable with operational costs being where they are right now.
Long term it is better, no? My guess is your staff is better and still makes good tips.
 
Nope. I'm gonna vote for someone other Trump for sure. I don't want a draft dodging felon pedo in the WH.

But the point still stands. Only a fool would believe anyone who doesn't line up to suck Trump's **** supports everything about his opponents.
So you're gonna vote for a deserter👍
 
I am dubious. If the payroll only went to minimum, 20% maybe possible. Seems low to me though.

To wait tables for minimum wage, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. About a third of the customers are problems but they will crush your soul.

So, if tips are not part of the mix, I don't think restaurants will find waitstaff when they can work easier jobs for same money.
Keep in mind that the employer also has to match Social security (6.2%) on the entire increase in the hourly wage.
 
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Are servers generally offered any benefits from the restaurants where they work? Probably a better question for @DinkinFlicka . It would seem that if they aren't given any other benefits, that they could be considered individual contractors to that restaurant and somehow garner better? tax treatment, while also having to pay SSA and all that stuff that an 'employer' normally pays.
Generally, no. They wouldn't meet the requirements of being classified as a contractor.
 
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No tax on tips isnt going to happen. Just because I propose it... Bad tax policy while we are at it

Cutting regulations/govt interference on energy industry is a good thing. But cutting regulations isnt a core belief since he has several contradictory pledges that increase regulations/interference...

Cut all regulations/interference would be a core belief...
The point of the question was Trump‘s policy have (and would) DIRECTLY benefit him personalY. I am asking how these policies directly impacted him??
 
Well if voting for a guy who lost yo Biden once is dumb..which was the post on responded to said..then voting for a 3rd party or not voting is equally as dumb because they lose every election. So yea while voting isn't a team sport..slinging crap and thinking you have a high ground waiting for a utopia that will never exist just doesn't make sense..the type of changes needed cannot be done via voting....it's need a regime change...and ideological change that Americans are not capable of making at this point due to the years of being programmed.
Quit saying utopia as if anyone really believes that's the goal. That's just a lazy talking point against 3rd party (likely pushed by the 2 parties). Making changes to govt and the way it affects our lives is the goal. Neither of the 2 parties have any motivation to do that in any meaningful manner.

But by all means continue to vote for the old guy who proved he couldn't do the job the first time. I'm sure it will work the second try
 
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I see you failed to mention spending cuts or immigration reform. Sure it was an oversight
Glad your saw this but when I have listed policit’s before and ask for which position you would prefer, no one ever answers. Previous lists were much larger so I thought I would help and limit this list.

This particular list if you go back and look, was answering a question that “Trump is only in this for himself”. So I ask, and, I’ll ask you, how do these policies DIRECTLY impact Trump? Once again, keep personalities out of your answer.

I wish Kamala would help you by providing some direction herself on this issues but she has not and the media will not ask.
 
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Quit saying utopia as if anyone really believes that's the goal. That's just a lazy talking point against 3rd party (likely pushed by the 2 parties). Making changes to govt and the way it affects our lives is the goal. Neither of the 2 parties have any motivation to do that in any meaningful manner.

But by all means continue to vote for the old guy who proved he couldn't do the job the first time. I'm sure it will work the second try
And by all means continue to vote 3rd party or not vote..as your vote will have no impact on any changes you want other then making you feel better about yourself..and the ideas you give us ate not viable within the current regime therefore they live in your utopian ideas..
 
Glad your saw this but when I have listed policit’s before and ask for which position you would prefer, no one ever answers. Previous lists were much larger so I thought I would help and limit this list.

This particular list if you go back and look, was answering a question that “Trump is only in this for himself”. So I ask, and, I’ll ask you, how do these policies DIRECTLY impact Trump? Once again, keep personalities out of your answer.

I wish Kamala would help you by providing some direction herself on this issues but she has not and the media will not ask.
They're things he believes that the people supporting him will like. He doesn't care what those things actually do just that they vote for him. That should be obvious after his last term
 
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Winning NV and AZ helps him win POTUS. Id say that impacts him personally...
Once again, read the context of the question I was referring to……paraphrasing….when Trump was President, he only did things that directly helped him.

On this specific issue, I would say no tax on tips impacts those individuals far more than Trump. Just my thought…..
 
And by all means continue to vote 3rd party or not vote..as your vote will have no impact on any changes you want other then making you feel better about yourself..and the ideas you give us ate not viable within the current regime therefore they live in your utopian ideas..
"Utopia" is a talking point used by the 2 parties to denigrate alternatives. Why do you think they would do that? Because they rigged the system and don't want anyone to disrupt it. Congrats on being the drone they rely on
 
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Regarding the military service angle, my own thinking is that Vance should have left this to surrogates to argue. Even though he's correct that he "saw more action" than did Walz, it's just unseemly to have the candidates themselves denigrating any service, even if lesser than your own.
 
Once again, read the context of the question I was referring to……paraphrasing….when Trump was President, he only did things that directly helped him.

On this specific issue, I would say no tax on tips impacts those individuals far more than Trump. Just my thought…..
They help him get elected. That's his only goal. He doesn't give a rats ass about anything else right now
 
Regarding the military service angle, my own thinking is that Vance should have left this to surrogates to argue. Even though he's correct that he "saw more action" than did Walz, it's just unseemly to have the candidates themselves denigrating any service, even if lesser than your own.

Vance didn't denigrate Walz's service, he called him out for lying about it.
 
Portland Oregon we have to pay serves $10.75
Georgia we pay $2.13

So I looked it up. Obviously not the only reason for the price difference, but probably the biggest driver, the cost of our most popular entree is almost 9% more expensive in Oregon.
Honestly, the answer is going to differ dramatically based on the profile of the individual restaurant in question. I would think that table turnover time and, more to the point, customers served per server per hour would largely drive the answers.
 
"Utopia" is a talking point used by the 2 parties to denigrate alternatives. Why do you think they would do that? Because they rigged the system and don't want anyone to disrupt it. Congrats on being the drone they rely on
Thank you for proving my earlier statement about your type of voter. UTOPIA is used a talking point about something that is a dream existence..much like suddenly voting 3rd party will stop on the uniparty government style happening. Which it will not..it will fold into it like very other POTUS has done for power and money. A total breakdown of everything is the only way your going make that change.
So until enough people wanna fight back..I'll try to slow down the fall of the US. It funny because anti trumpets which you are, are the same drones you complain about.
 
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Once again, read the context of the question I was referring to……paraphrasing….when Trump was President, he only did things that directly helped him.

On this specific issue, I would say no tax on tips impacts those individuals far more than Trump. Just my thought…..

Trump's only signature bills he signed were TCJA and CARES. Both significantly impacted his business ventures (especially TCJA).

The no tax on tips is pie in the sky political posturing that has no chance of enactment.

Id get behind the idea for SS...
 

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