2024 Presidential Race

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rekinhavoc said:
"We know that when there is tax relief offered for young families . . . as great as that sounds, and we are appreciative of that point, if Minnesota wasn't such an expensive place to live," House Minority Leader Lisa Demuth said in March. "In addition to that $18 billion of surplus that is now gone, taxes and fees – our state budget – was raised by another $10 billion. We grew government in a way that is unsustainable."

This is the point.
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How are all of these things true?

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CobbVol said:
Trump mentioned that he had an emergency landing in a helicopter with Willie Brown and the "media" goes after this comment with the vigor that would make Woodward/Berstein bubbling with pride. This all of course while we wait for more information related to the motive of the assassin in PA as they "manage" any releases.
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Former California lawmaker Nate Holden says he was on the scary helicopter ride with Trump

Former Los Angeles city councilman and state senator Nate Holden said Friday that he was with former President Donald Trump in the helicopter ride that made an emergency landing, despite Trump saying it was former San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown.
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NorthDallas40 said:
Fair enough and like I said still doesn’t rise to level of stolen valor I think. But there appears to be plenty of info that he is active in the misrepresentation of his military rank. That I think is noteworthy. But yes his policy and legislative record is enough alone to exclude his progressive ass
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He said in a 9/11 speech he saw them loading bodies into a plane at Bagram Airbase. That is Afghanistan where he never was which should be considered stolen valor.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Stop outsourcing is an actual promise? You know he tried to do this his first term, ****ed up the economy, and there is still outsourcing.

Why didn't he seal the border the first time. You guys see him making impossible promises he can't keep and your genuine, unsarcastic response is fire 🔥. Unite our country? Crush gang violence? You guys are willing rubes.

He's proming to protect 2a and speech after threatening it his first term?
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Trump did have the border sealed better than it has been sealed in years and Biden destroyed Trump's border polices that were effective by using EOs. Now Trump is going to have to reseal the border all over again and get all the llegals out. Trump also had the economy in the best shape it had been in in years also. Inflation was under 2% with Trump, that will need to be fixed. Trump has the Abraham accords and peace deals in the ME, that will have to be fixed now. Anyone with half a brain knows things were far better under Trump compared the disaster the last 3.5 years.
 
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CobbVol said:
He said in a 9/11 speech he saw them loading bodies into a plane at Bagram Airbase. That is Afghanistan where he never was which should be considered stolen valor.
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Disagree. He served and is clearly embellishing his record. This doesn’t rise up to Blumenthal’s level of lying on service in my opinion. That is absolutely stolen value level. But again regardless of his embellishment his record should be all that’s needed to exclude him.
 
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Well, we do know Donny falls irrationally for blondes. Looks like it happened yet again.

It does look like JD's recent use of eyeliner harkens back to his YLS days.

 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Disagree. He served and is clearly embellishing his record. This doesn’t rise up to Blumenthal’s level of lying on service in my opinion. That is absolutely stolen value level. But again regardless of his embellishment his record should be all that’s needed to exclude him.
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So lying in saying you were in a theater of war when you were not is OK?
 
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Gandalf said:
I dont have time or inclination to get too deep but a few pointers of the bigger Trump plan

1. Drill baby drill - lowering energy costs is the #1 thing that can be done to lower inflation - besides home bills, every product has to be delivered and manufacturing is especially contingent - Squashing the whole green scam and oil prices will drop as soon as he gets in as market begins to price his future moves.

2. Gutting regulations - insane number of regs in the fed register that add major layers of cost without real benefit except to lawyer and gov apparachics - you would probably get rid of 1/2 of them and nobody would even notice. Now that SCOTUS ruled on kicking it back to congress, expect a LOT of this. Business will rejoice over this more than tax reduction.

3. Build that wall and deport every illegal you can find - nah, that wont be reality but if they do start being very aggressive with deportations and e-verify penalties for employers, there will be a lot go home voluntarily and newcomers will go way down - this massively reduces burden/spending on fed, state and local govs to take care of them

4. Tarrifs - expect a lot of bluster here too but in the end, Trump will get less than he blusters but still way more than we get now - temp increase in COGS is not good for inflation but very good for American jobs and production.

5. Expect him to cut off spending to all the progressive pet projects and perhaps even eliminate some gov agencies saving some money - tho admittedly, he is likely to give some of that to GOP pet projects

6. No money for wars overseas - other countries need to pony up - enough said.

7. Corp tax reductions - oddly, when he did this before, treasury revenue was HIGHER than before because corps decide to book the taxes here instead of overseas. Bring the capital back to the USA in doing so, that helps us with trade deficits and thus less interest paid to foreigners and thus less inflation here at home.

8. Oh yes, no tax on tips - so great an idea Kamala is trying to copy it (though she would never follow through) Major boost to service workers and eliminates so many useless layers, all of which add cost so that the gov can get the money and hand it to someone else.


MASSIVE improvement over what Comrade Kamala is planning
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I'm not seeing how some of these things reduce inflation .... and with others? Why weren't they enacted during his first term in office, especially while Republicans were in control of both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office? Trump's budget proposal requests make it clear that a reduction in spending was never under any serious consideration.

One example: In February of 2020, Trump proposed a $4.8 trillion budget for the 2021 fiscal year. Of course ... $2 billion of that was earmarked for portions of a border wall - that we had repeatedly been told that Mexico would pay for.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I'm not seeing how some of these things reduce inflation .... and with others? Why weren't they enacted during his first term in office, especially while Republicans were in control of both chambers of Congress during his first two years in office? Trump's budget proposal requests make it clear that a reduction in spending was never under any serious consideration.

One example: In February of 2020, Trump proposed a $4.8 trillion budget for the 2021 fiscal year. Of course ... $2 billion of that was earmarked for portions of a border wall - that we had repeatedly been told that Mexico would pay for.
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Trump's first budget: Trillions in cuts

President Trump's first full budget proposal lays out $4.1 trillion in spending for 2018 but reallocates where federal funds are spent. The White House estimates his budget would reduce spending over the next decade by $3.6 trillion.
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BernardKingGOAT said:
Yes, you can be adamantly for one position like border security and also be an advocate for public schools, which totally contradicts the binary lens crowd. Being anti-Trump and fiscally conservative at the same time. Whether you want to acknowledge it, that's a trait of the middle 50.
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Actually when we took a test on here.. I got moderate Republican
 
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CobbVol said:
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Trump's first budget: Trillions in cuts

President Trump's first full budget proposal lays out $4.1 trillion in spending for 2018 but reallocates where federal funds are spent. The White House estimates his budget would reduce spending over the next decade by $3.6 trillion.
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I don't know what you think that proves, but it certainly did not lead to a reduction in spending. He simply reallocated where funds were spent.
 
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Gandalf said:
I dont have time or inclination to get too deep but a few pointers of the bigger Trump plan

1. Drill baby drill - lowering energy costs is the #1 thing that can be done to lower inflation - besides home bills, every product has to be delivered and manufacturing is especially contingent - Squashing the whole green scam and oil prices will drop as soon as he gets in as market begins to price his future moves.


2. Gutting regulations - insane number of regs in the fed register that add major layers of cost without real benefit except to lawyer and gov apparachics - you would probably get rid of 1/2 of them and nobody would even notice. Now that SCOTUS ruled on kicking it back to congress, expect a LOT of this. Business will rejoice over this more than tax reduction.



3. Build that wall and deport every illegal you can find - nah, that wont be reality but if they do start being very aggressive with deportations and e-verify penalties for employers, there will be a lot go home voluntarily and newcomers will go way down - this massively reduces burden/spending on fed, state and local govs to take care of them

4. Tarrifs - expect a lot of bluster here too but in the end, Trump will get less than he blusters but still way more than we get now - temp increase in COGS is not good for inflation but very good for American jobs and production.

5. Expect him to cut off spending to all the progressive pet projects and perhaps even eliminate some gov agencies saving some money - tho admittedly, he is likely to give some of that to GOP pet projects

6. No money for wars overseas - other countries need to pony up - enough said.

7. Corp tax reductions - oddly, when he did this before, treasury revenue was HIGHER than before because corps decide to book the taxes here instead of overseas. Bring the capital back to the USA in doing so, that helps us with trade deficits and thus less interest paid to foreigners and thus less inflation here at home.

8. Oh yes, no tax on tips - so great an idea Kamala is trying to copy it (though she would never follow through) Major boost to service workers and eliminates so many useless layers, all of which add cost so that the gov can get the money and hand it to someone else.


MASSIVE improvement over what Comrade Kamala is planning
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1. Energy is way down the list on current causes. Cut govt spending and end the deficit spending. The FPUC bill he signed in 2020 has caused the labor inflation today. Agree that regs should be cut here.
2. He needs to reduce all regulations and not add some that his base likes and reduce others.
3. He has shown he won't enforce existing laws. Eliminate the benefit for using illegal alien labor and they wont come in droves.
4. American taxpayer will subsidize any tarrif like they did with farmers. Agree, mostly hot air.
5. He has shown he can't control spending.
6. Agree. We are too broke to do that.
7. Misleading at best. Revenues down 2018-2020 vs baseline. Biggest driver in recent corp. tax revenues are Biden's 15% global minimum tax and inflation. OK with a reduction but tax code preferences need to be eliminated.
8. Horrible tax policy which explains why both parties like it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The timing of that statement's release is too obviously politically motivated to have any real impact. For that sort of statement to have been effective in shaping public opinion, it needed to be made before Walz was announced as a running mate on a major party Presidential ticket. It's too easy to dismiss as being "politics as usual" now.
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Release statements about candidates BEFORE they are announced? You are surely joking, right?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't know what you think that proves, but it certainly did not lead to a reduction in spending. He simply reallocated where funds were spent.
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From the article:

The administration estimates that the president's budget would reduce overall spending by $3.6 trillion over the next 10 years.
 
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Gandalf said:
I am sorry for you but NO, Trump and Harris have COMPLETELY different approaches to inflation. Harris has no idea how to fix it but figures to provide more handouts and collect more taxes to pay for them. Trump expects to grow his way out of it. Also, by closing the border and closing down some of the unspent trillion dollars in Biden grift programs, he hopes to lower artificial demand.

Neither is likely to reduce gov spending by a lot. That is the ONLY thing remotely similar.
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The Harris/Walz approach to fighting inflation is analogous to the past process of bleeding a patient to cure illness 😳
 
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‘What Are You Talking About?’: CNN Panel Gets Heated As Guest Brings Up Walz’s Sexuality​


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A CNN panel got weird Monday morning when David Frum, a staff writer for The Atlantic, brought up Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Walz’s sexuality.

CNN host Kasie Hunt started the conversation by mentioning Republican vice-presidential nominee J.D. Vance’s comments Sunday to CNN’s Dana Bash about Walz greeting his wife at a campaign event with a firm handshake instead of a hug or a kiss. Vance told Bash during the interview that Walz’s behavior was not normal.

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‘What Are You Talking About?’: CNN Panel Gets Heated As Guest Brings Up Walz’s Sexuality

A CNN panel got weird Monday morning when David Frum, a staff writer for The Atlantic, brought up Democratic vice-presidential candidate Tim Walz’s sexuality.
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CobbVol said:
Now do when he says that he left when his daughter was 2 and came back when she was 3. As well as feeling guilt for coming back when so many other did not.
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Until Walz repudiates his Challenge Coin rank and publicly apologizes for his past statements about being in war; I refuse to give him ANY leeway
 
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"The admin estimates" oh ok. Trump estimated it would be zero by the time he left office. Tell me more about their estimations? If the Biden admin came out with a statement like that you would laugh them out of the room. This deserves the same.
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From the article:

The administration estimates that the president's budget would reduce overall spending by $3.6 trillion over the next 10 years.
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