2024 Presidential Race

[SlipKidVol]

how about someone discuss the positive affects of the Biden/Harris policies. I'll hang up and listen

 

[hog88]

how about someone discuss the positive affects of the Biden/Harris policies. I'll hang up and listen

Don't hold your breath

 

[midnight orange]

Yeah...that's what Trump is about.

It's hard to imagine a life where knowing Hitler speeches would be useful in any way. Occam's razor says he simply found it interesting.

I’m not talking about Trump, I’m speaking as one whom is interested in freedom and history and it is useful to see how intelligent people succumbed to them.

It can happen here.

 

[LouderVol]

So is it your position that there should not be a mandatory curfew during times of civil unrest?

mandatory is a problem when it applies to people on their own private property.

as with most things there are probably acceptable ways to do it, but that doesn't mean I will accept every application of it in a blanket statement.

 

[n_huffhines]

I’m not talking about Trump, I’m speaking as one whom is interested in freedom and history and it is useful to see how intelligent people succumbed to them.

It can happen here.

To be clear, I was talking about Trump. I have no problem with anybody finding it interesting how we was able to win the masses. I have no problem with anybody having a historical interest in it. I imagine you are very well read on history. It's not weird at all for you to read this. I still have no idea how it would be useful to you. You already have a mindset that is a foundation against Hitler or anybody like him convincing you to fascism.

But if you're Trump and probably not all that well read on history...it would be weird to be so interested in his speeches if it's nit for the sake of learning to be a successful populist

 

[LouderVol]

Did you overlook the part that "from time to time he reads the book"?

you really think TRUMP is sitting and reading a whole book "from time to time"? you are giving his attention span and intelligence far more credence than I do. funny how that always flips for you guys, he is some diabolical schemer, but he mentally can't navigate the stairs. at least with Biden most on the right weren't saying he was the brains of the operation while Biden gave us a 50 yard stare.

to me it sounds more like he picked up and read a few pages every once and a while. especially since he didn't even know what it was.

 

[Sandman 423]

how about someone discuss the positive affects of the Biden/Harris policies. I'll hang up and listen

They may be on the way to curing obesity. I guess that is a positive.

 

[LouderVol]

I’m sorry but I don’t understand the latter. What’s the problem with reading Hitler’s speeches? The same can be said for Stalin or Mao. Becoming educated on the words of serial mass murderers and their acquisition of power is something freedom seekers should be familiar with.

I haven't read the book or the speeches to speak towards the specifics of this case.

but in general there is a difference in reading quotes of speeches from a selection of people, and this book which is autobiographical and specific. it does speak towards a more specific interest, rather than just a general seeking of knowledge. I really doubt Trump was sitting down and doing a comparative study to derive deeper meanings to recognize the evils in the world.

 

[RockyTop85]

I'm not trying to be obtuse at all. Maybe we are just missing each others point. No worries.

I don’t think I missed your point. I read you to essentially be saying “anybody who made it to that position would have done the same.”

I’m trying to wrap my head around how that isn’t just rank cynicism or how rank cynicism is supposed to be more weighty than the candidates individual records.

 

[luthervol]

mandatory is a problem when it applies to people on their own private property.

as with most things there are probably acceptable ways to do it, but that doesn't mean I will accept every application of it in a blanket statement.

We are pretty much in complete agreement.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't see a problem with owning/reading Mein Kampf or studying Hitler and the Nazis.

I don't think Trump is smart enough to do an objective review of certain works to derive deeper meaning or reveal some truth. I really doubt he had too much of general interest either. in particular it rubbed me wrong that Ivana was claiming it was a bit of Czechoslovakian nationalism that had him reading the German works of an Austrian?

there isn't a hole lot that ties together except for geography and the nazi ideology.

I really think he was just reading a couple lines at a time, and that was the end of it. nothing wrong with it; I am just not willing to accept some greater motive, either him being a Nazi sympathizer or he was taking a historical interest in past events.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't know why the Presidential Medal of Freedom is held in such high regard, when the President can just give it to whoever the hell he wants to. Trump gave one to Rush Limbaugh. He also gave one to multiple donors of his. No award has any true meaning when you can buy it.

agreed. Obama gave one to himself. saw the pictures of it on the internet.

 

[LouderVol]

Yeah...that's what Trump is about.

It's hard to imagine a life where knowing Hitler speeches would be useful in any way, and I am a freedom seeker. Occam's razor says he simply found it interesting....or he wanted to learn how to win at populism.

or a friend gave him the book and told Trump he might find it interesting, so Trump read from it from time to time.

 

[luthervol]

you really think TRUMP is sitting and reading a whole book "from time to time"? you are giving his attention span and intelligence far more credence than I do. funny how that always flips for you guys, he is some diabolical schemer, but he mentally can't navigate the stairs. at least with Biden most on the right weren't saying he was the brains of the operation while Biden gave us a 50 yard stare.

to me it sounds more like he picked up and read a few pages every once and a while. especially since he didn't even know what it was.

I think trump is a narcissistic sociopath who has great admiration for Hitler.

And a very peculiar fascination with Hannibal Lector.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

They may be on the way to curing obesity. I guess that is a positive.

Don't forget Joe said he's cured cancer & beat Medicare.

 

[midnight orange]

To be clear, I was talking about Trump. I have no problem with anybody finding it interesting how we was able to win the masses. I have no problem with anybody having a historical interest in it. I imagine you are very well read on history. It's not weird at all for you to read this. I still have no idea how it would be useful to you. You already have a mindset that is a foundation against Hitler or anybody like him convincing you to fascism.

But if you're Trump and probably not all that well read on history...it would be weird to be so interested in his speeches if it's nit for the sake of learning to be a successful populist

If he was interested in populism, he should read William Jennings Bryan, Huey Long or Andrew Jackson. I believe like you said that Trump doesn’t read books so I would find it unlikely that he picks up a copy of Mein Kampf or anything else for that matter.

 

[CobbVol]

Don't forget Joe said he's cured cancer & beat Medicare.

The Trans-Pacific Railway

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

The Trans-Pacific Railway

They're out there in the Ocean working on that now.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

‘Oh, So Now You’re Calling Me Racist?’: Nancy Mace Unleashes On CNN Panelist Offended By ‘Kamala’ Pronunciation​

Republican South Carolina Rep Nancy Mace unleashed on CNN panelists offended by how she pronounced Vice President Kamala Harris’s name Thursday evening on “CNN NewsNight with Abby Phillip.”

CNN’s Abby Phillip’s panel discussion about a black woman who runs a Trump merchandise store quickly went off the rails when Vanderbilt University Professor Michael Eric Dyson abruptly pivoted into an attack on Mace about the pronunciation of Harris’s first name.

“That sounds like self-hatred and justification of white supremacy,” Dyson remarked about the Trump store owner before redirecting focus on Mace. “Now let me just say this, because this congresswoman is a wonderful human being, but when you disrespect Kamala Harris by saying you will call her anything you want, I know you don’t intend it to be that way. That’s the history and legacy of white disregard for the humanity of black people,” Dyson said.

‘Oh, So Now You’re Calling Me Racist?’: Nancy Mace Unleashes On CNN Panelist Offended By ‘Kamala’ Pronunciation

Republican South Carolina Rep Nancy Mace unleashed on CNN panelists offended by how she pronounces Vice President Kamala Harris’s name Thursday evening.

dailycaller.com

 

[LadyVolette]

They may be on the way to curing obesity. I guess that is a positive.

There is a cure for that. Burn more calories than you consume.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Politico Columnist Says’ Harris’ ‘Bet’ Is To ‘Run Out The Clock’ By Barely Revealing Policy During Campaign​

Politico senior political columnist Jonathan Martin said on Friday that Vice President Kamala Harris plans to win the presidency by not fully revealing her policy during her short campaign.

Politico Columnist Says’ Harris’ ‘Bet’ Is To ‘Run Out The Clock’ By Barely Revealing Policy During Campaign

Jonathan Martin on Friday said Vice President Kamala Harris plans to win the presidency by not fully revealing her policy during her short campaign.

dailycaller.com

 

[Franklin Pierce]

‘Radioactive Waste For Voters’: Kevin O’Leary Says Kamala Harris ‘Has To Get Rid Of Biden’ To Win Over Americans​

“Shark Tank” co-star Kevin O’Leary said Vice President Kamala Harris has to distance herself from President Joe Biden in order for her economic policies to appeal to Americans.

‘Radioactive Waste For Voters’: Kevin O’Leary Says Kamala Harris ‘Has To Get Rid Of Biden’ To Win Over Americans

Kevin O'Leary said Vice President Kamala Harris has to distance herself from President Joe Biden in order for her economic policies to appeal to Americans.

dailycaller.com

 

[hog88]

I don't think Trump is smart enough to do an objective review of certain works to derive deeper meaning or reveal some truth. I really doubt he had too much of general interest either. in particular it rubbed me wrong that Ivana was claiming it was a bit of Czechoslovakian nationalism that had him reading the German works of an Austrian?

there isn't a hole lot that ties together except for geography and the nazi ideology.

I really think he was just reading a couple lines at a time, and that was the end of it. nothing wrong with it; I am just not willing to accept some greater motive, either him being a Nazi sympathizer or he was taking a historical interest in past events.

I think he’s smarter than you give him credit for being but I also think he says crap trying to make himself seem smarter and more interesting than he is.

 

[SuzyVol]

The MEDAL of freedom and MEDAL of honor are similar in zero ways???

They are similar in zero ways. There is not enough lipstick in the continental United States to color it otherwise.

 

[lawgator1]

The comments Trump made comparing the medals have almost nothing to do with their relative worth. Trump gets to give the Freedome medal out to people that like him and maybe even donate to him. Makes him feel like a big shot. It is, yet again, not about the people getting the honor, it's about Trump's self image.