2024 Presidential Race

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BowlBrother85 said:
So .... let me get this straight :

It is now considered to be a "coup" when you don't show respect for Joe Biden winning an election ... and then take action to overturn that outcome?

Interesting take.

I assume you meant to say assassination ... but you really shouldn't kid yourself.

Fox News' extensive coverage of Hunter Biden was only done for its political benefit. Now that his dad will be leaving office soon and is no longer a candidate .... Fox News has lost interest in covering him.
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Current President getting pushed out by his own party > laptop

Laptop can alway be revisited. A coup is now.

How many years did you slurp Russian Collusion?
 
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volfanhill said:
I've always thought that myself. I don't see anyone of that rank not resigning on the spot if they heard crap like that come out of Trumps mouth. And if he did hear that, and did not resign, then he's a pos too. It would be a terrible look for Kelly if true
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Believe whatever you want about him, John Kelly did confirm to CNN that Donald Trump asked him, "I don't get it. What's in it for them," while they were standing next to each other in Section 60 at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day in 2017.

You don't want to believe that Kelly has confirmed that the exchange took place, but Kelly did confirm it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
How do you measure the success of a country? Because with just about any index, the period between 1992-1999 was a time of tremendous economic growth, and prosperity. Relatively speaking, it was also a time of peace.

Also .... even politically, and in the midst of a partisan impeachment proceeding, and a sordid presidential affair exposed in 1998 .... we also had productive bi-partisan collaboration between the Clinton Administration and House Republicans led by Newt Gingrich. They really did get a lot of legislation through, with both sides getting some of what they wanted, and neither insisting on getting all of the credit.

Basically, you are going back at least 5 years too far with that "This country has been on a steady rate of decline for 30-35 years," nonsense.

If you couldn't make ends meet in the late 90's .... that was pretty much your own damn fault.
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Oh I absolutely think the Clinton BJ thing wasn't really enough to out a President, and they didn't. The Clinton's are horrible Americans and it has nothing to do with BJs.

Its not what I think of the country though, I asked him a question(s).

My take is the country has been on a steady decline for quite a few decades, I guess someone could disagree... make take is they probably weren't around though.

As far as what we were talking about, you don't care about those people, you never did, and you probably never will. So, what's the problem either way?
 
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hog88 said:
I’ve not called Kelly a liar. I’ve only called the people falsely putting words into his mouth a liar.
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Nobody put words in his mouth. That's ridiculous. You are being willfully dumb.

John Kelly did confirm that Trump told him, "I don't get it. What's in it for them," when discussing soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice during wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wanting to play linguistic games because it is unpleasant for you to confront a sad reality about Trump.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Nobody put words in his mouth. That's ridiculous. You are being willfully dumb.

John Kelly did confirm that Trump told him, "I don't get it. What's in it for them," when discussing soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice during wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wanting to play linguistic games because it is unpleasant for you to confront a sad reality about Trump.
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That's not what everyone is arguing about. It's the did Trump call them losers etc
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Nobody put words in his mouth. That's ridiculous. You are being willfully dumb.

John Kelly did confirm that Trump told him, "I don't get it. What's in it for them," when discussing soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice during wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wanting to play linguistic games because it is unpleasant for you to confront a sad reality about Trump.
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As far as Afghanistan and Iraq, what he said would be correct. They really died for no reason.... and most likely you keep voting for it. That doesn't mean I think people should crap on them though.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Nobody put words in his mouth. That's ridiculous. You are being willfully dumb.

John Kelly did confirm that Trump told him, "I don't get it. What's in it for them," when discussing soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice during wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You are wanting to play linguistic games because it is unpleasant for you to confront a sad reality about Trump.
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I don’t see “suckers and losers” …. ?
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Oh I absolutely think the Clinton BJ thing wasn't really enough to out a President, and they didn't. The Clinton's are horrible Americans and it has nothing to do with BJs.

Its not what I think of the country though, I asked him a question(s).

My take is the country has been on a steady decline for quite a few decades, I guess someone could disagree... make take is they probably weren't around though.

As far as what we were talking about, you don't care about those people, you never did, and you probably never will. So, what's the problem either way?
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LOL.

In no way was the country on a decline in the late 90's. That was a rare point in our nation's history when we had an economic boom during a time of relative peace. We also had substantial bi-partisan cooperation. The government worked the way it should for a short time.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
LOL.

In no way was the country on a decline in the late 90's. That was a rare point in our nation's history when we had an economic boom during a time of relative peace. We also had substantial bi-partisan cooperation. The government worked the way it should for a short time.
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Its absolutely been in decline, it has nothing to do with federal reserve notes.... slow steady decline.

Just an easy observation here.... everyone doesn't seem happy. This is what you call happy and advancing? Every year there are more federal reserve notes, so what? They don't even print them anymore.
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Carl Pickens said:
I don’t see “suckers and losers” …. ?
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It's addressed in the same CNN article, but since it's less clear that Trump was speaking directly to John Kelly, I'm not bringing it up.

It is clear that Kelly has confirmed the, "I don't get it. What's in it for them?" comments at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day in 2017, however.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Its absolutely been in decline, it has nothing to do with federal reserve notes.... slow steady decline.

Just an easy observation here.... everyone doesn't seem happy. Every year there are more federal reserve notes.
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It was not in decline in the late 90's. No.
 
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thefederalist.com

Tim Walz Says He Has A Grammar Problem

Kamala Harris and her running mate sat down with CNN's Dana Bash for their first semi-substantive interview since Joe Biden's political wake.
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“And the idea that you said you were in war, did you misspeak as the campaign has said?” the CNN anchor asked again.

Frustrated and caught in his obfuscation, Walz blustered, “Yeah, I said we were talking in this case, this was after a school shooting, the ideas of carrying these weapons of war.”

And this is where the bizarre comes in.

“And my wife, the English teacher, told me my grammar is not always correct,” he said.

Grammar?! It’s not like Walz mixed up the usage of lay and lie. He LIED.

Because he’s an awful liar and an awful human being, he blamed his political enemies — like some of the National Guard soldiers who served with him — for his shortcomings in “grammar.”

“But, again, if it’s not this it’s an attack on my children for showing love for me or it’s an attack on my dog,” the governor deflected. “I’m not gong to do that. And the one thing I’ll never do is demean another [service] member’s service in any way. I never have and I never will.”

He demeaned the service of members of the military for years by claiming he was something he wasn’t, in places he had not been. It’s called stolen valor, and it’s a really lousy thing to do.

Just ask Kathy Miller, the mother of forever 19-year-old Sgt. Kyle Miller, who was killed in 2006 by roadside bomb in Iraq. He was member of the Guard unit Walz left behind.

“My son wasn’t even 21 years old. He couldn’t even buy alcohol. Yet he took the step to serve our country while Walz found the best way to run away,” Kathy Miller told the Daily Mail earlier this month. “It was the coward’s way out.”


Grammar?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It's addressed in the same CNN article, but since it's less clear that Trump was speaking directly to John Kelly, I'm not bringing it up.

It is clear that Kelly has confirmed the, "I don't get it. What's in it for them?" comments at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day in 2017, however.
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I’m sure no other president has made improper comments in private …. Only Trump
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Absolutely was unless you didn't live your life before that. Steady decline. I seriously doubt most Americans who grew up in the 80s wouldn't love to go back.

This country is basically ****, and its not because of Trump. 🤣
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That's just stupid. By any metric, the late 90's were a time of peace and prosperity in the United States.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's just stupid. By any metric, the late 90's were a time of peace and prosperity in the United States.
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There was peace and prosperity in the U.S. in the 80s ... not sure what the point is? Its been in decline, that doesn't mean bottom was hit in the 90s... just part of the steady decline.

Every year people seem to me to be less happy, I don't know about this metric thing. I take it you didn't grow up in the 70s or 80s.

In the 80s there were very few concerns, I would say the decline probably happened somewhere in the 85-90 range meaning peak or start of the decline i.e. the Bush family.

The bottom hasn't even been hit yet, my guess .... far from it.

At the end of the day.... I don't know why Trump is getting all this blame... .he wasn't a part of what you vote for. You are getting exactly what you want.

I have no problem saying the U.S. use to be a great place, and I have no problem saying its a crappy place now.... everyone seems very unhappy. The country isn't like this because Trump exists, Trump is a thing because the country is crap.

All of you guys have been getting what you want.... you've been getting it. Life must be great.
 
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